GoPro - HERO13 Black Ultra Wide Edition

Either standard hero13 or hero13 plus ultra wide lens mod is the call for MTB. I do a lot of biking and the results are great on GoPro. Plus you can use GoPro labs and dial in the right exposure and bitrate settings to maximize the quality.

Either standard hero13 or hero13 plus ultra wide lens mod is the call for MTB. I do a lot of biking and the results are great on GoPro. Plus you can use GoPro labs and dial in the right exposure and bitrate settings to maximize the quality.

Anything from GP11 till 13 would do just fine. All are waterproof and in general good action cameras. They are great for shots during daylight and night lapses, but not fantastic for low light shooting. In general 13 would be the best, and with all technology, buying the latest version future proofs your camera. I got a GP11 a couple of years back to go on a snorkelling holiday and i still use it. If you can get your hands on a good priced one then go for it. There will be minor benefits if you get a more modern one but I dont think i can give you a full rundown. Let me know if you have more specific questions

Been using the [GoPro HERO13 Ultra Wide](https://x.com/DealHopperHQ/status/1977619571025854496) for a few weeks and it’s honestly great. Super sharp 5.3K video, smooth stabilization, and the ultra wide lens makes every shot look more cinematic. Took it swimming a few times with no issues, so the waterproofing checks out. Battery life could be better, but overall it’s a tough little camera that delivers awesome footage for its size.

Another endorsement for GoPro. Have a 13, works great. Red filter needed.

If you use the flat color profile, then GoPro handles the shadows quite ok

I use flat color profile without editing. To me it looks better than the other profiles

Basic summary is the X5 is out for obvious reasons (curved lenses don't work great underwater), the Action 5 tends to overdo the "blue" correction and isn't always accurate to the real colors, and sometimes loses sharpness in some scenarios. The AcePro's colors are better, but the highlights tend to be quite soft which removes some of the punch from the image. It also loses sharpness in some scenarios. The GoPro tends to have the most accurate colors and the best overall sharpness in these tests.

The Hero 12 and the Hero 13 are the most stable cameras GoPro has released to date. The entire firmware was rewritten from scratch for the 12 to be more power efficient, more stable and more futureproof, with less technical debt. No idea where you heard that the 12 has overheating issues - I've literally never had mine overheat in the year I've been using it. The 13 took everything that made the 12 great and improved it. Get a Sony ZV-1 for your use case, you won't be happy with a GoPro.

For the most part. Same hardware, same lens, same processor. The 13 just has a better battery and updated firmware.

Try for an 11, 12 or 13. Newer the better, yes, but the 11, 12 and 13 are all basically the same camera just with feature improvements. They are the "modern" generation of GoPros, which brings the taller 8:7 sensor, 10 bit color, Log encoding etc, noise reduction control etc.

Go for the 12 Black from the Hero 4. It’s got way better stabilization, longer battery life, and sharper video. If you’re comparing, the 12 is more battery-efficient and handles bright lighting better, which is great for both water and stainless steel surfaces compared to the 11. Yeah, the Hero 13 has slightly better low-light performance, but unless he’s filming at night, it’s not really worth the extra cost really. If you’re getting two GoPros, I’d go for two Hero 12s to keep the video quality consistent. One can be overhead for cooking and the other gets close-ups? or for fishing, one can be chest-mounted while the other is set up for wide shots. [10 Best Action Cameras to Invest in 2025: Full Guide and Review](https://alaskanarrows.com/10-best-action-cameras-to-invest-in-2025/) would be useful too. But if you want a more budget-friendly option, a Hero 12 + Hero 11 Mini is a good combo—same great video, but the Mini is lighter and easier to mount so he can be creative with it ya know . For accessories, is he editing on his phone or laptop? That might affect which accessories are worth grabbing too but a suction cup or magnet mount for kitchen shots, and a Floaty Case or Waterproof Dome for underwater footage. Tldr: 12 black is the best, get two of them and a floaty case plus suction cup as accessories

I’m amazed at how effective the gaslighting has been from Insta360 and DJI. Hero13 is hands-down the best daylight action camera that exists today, and people are asking questions like “is it any good?”

What makes you say the battery life on the 13 is poor? Here’s mine shooting in 4K for well over 2 hours with no airflow https://www.reddit.com/user/All-Sorts-of-Stuff/comments/1gl7o5u/hero13_desktop_testing_records_4k_video_for_2/

That Osmo battery life quote is from before the bitrate fix - I’ll take 2.5 hours of good footage over 4 hours of muddy video

Hero13 beats Action5 on color science, resolution, aspect ratio, framerate, bitrate, stabilization, accessories… outside of low light performance, I’d say it dominates. A 4:3 image sensor with a max 4K resolution just doesn’t compare to the flexibility of 5.3K 8:7

Yes, I regularly do night photography with my GoPros - Hero10 through 13, as well as 360 cameras. But I want to stress that your subject needs to also be stationary - it’s not like you can film wildlife with this approach. But if you’re just trying to capture trees or landscapes, depending on how much moon & starlight you have, this might work fine. Can you give more detail about the types of images you want to capture?

Yes, me too. $350 kit. First GoPro ever and it’s amazing. My basis of comparison is my iPhone 16 Pro, which is also great but the GoPro is perfect for action situations. I don’t understand people moaning and groaning about a $350 device.

Go pro. I had the DJI it sucked. Just awful. Spend the money to get good photos. Also make sure to not only focus on the puctures, you miss so much trying to capture an image that you ignore the actual experience. Set the camera down and dive, see the reactions of the wildlife, watch the sun get blocked out when you are surrounded by a school of fish, move with the waves and see what the coral hides, entire eco systems will be missed by you trying to get a good photo. Create experiences and memories, put the camera down and start living.

I just went down the rabbit hole looking into a new cam. I think 1) GoPro is the biggest, and it’s popular to reject the “me too” and “everyone has one”. 2) a few generations ago they were pretty glitchy, freezing, overheating, and a lot of people got soured on the brand. I do believe these issues are better now, but it’s hard for a brand name to recover from design and QC problems. And 3) I have read that DJI and Insta360 do a lot more new style marketing where they support influencers and GoPro doesn’t. Can’t confirm or deny but based on what we see and hear I believe it. Objectively researching all three- as someone who prioritizes image clarity, color depth, and ability to edit and grade the footage- I just ordered a 13 and feel great about the choice (at the current sale price). Might also get a 14 if they drop in Sept and are way improved, rumors are they will have a new processor chip and may have better codec and battery life, but all speculation…

Open youtube on your desktop pc, the one with a 32" display, and search for reviews comparing Ace Pro 2 and Hero 13.

Yet another phallacy. Fact: not even the latest Gopro 13 camera sports a decent night mode video recording, while people actually using those latest "crappy chinese knockoffs" publish pretty decent night mode clips all over the socials. Are those clips all fake? Are those people all paid reviewers?

I would recommend the GoPro 13, you have tons of accessories available and overall video quality it's pretty good. Also the Hypersmooth feature its great for stable footage.

The GoPro 13 can resist up to 10 m or 33 ft underwater. If you want to go deeper, you may need a underwater case. If you want space, you can use a 1TB micro SD card.

Absolutely 💯 is. I have both the 11 and 13. Gopro finally upgraded the heatsink on the 13, which is the biggest reason I bought it.

The colors of dji might look "better" out of the box if you prefer oversaturation. But if you want to get the best end result you should film in flat/log and do the color grading yourself. There gopro wins. I also feel I remember some reviews about the stabilization being better on gopro, which might be nice for mountain biking. As for low light dji probably wins, yeah

Simple. 5.3k resolution. Allows you to crop in on videos and gives you the highest video quality. Sure Ace Pro 2 has 8k....at 30fps. 8K is just overkill and you won't get any decent looking slow motion out of 30fps. 5.3k is the sweet spot. If you want to do color correcting which the Ace Pro does automatically, you can easily tweak that in editing it's very simple. Until another action camera comes out with 5.3k resolution it's GoPro for me. Then hopefully the next GoPro will have 5.3k 120fps so we can get even higher quality slow motion. If you're shooting underwater get an AOI UWL-O3 lens attachment for it for increased clarity and ability to focus at closer range too.

Meh, underwater looks like doodoo. A blurry mess. Pass. For above ground stuff yeah it's cool. For people who want to use it for filming the underwater world, stick with a hero 13.

Well then look into the ace pro 2 better low light than both . I have both GoPro 13 and ace pro 2. GoPro is the better all around and ace is better in low light

they are all 90% the same (this includes older models) with similar advantages and drawbacks (compared to other camera types) unless you compare them side by side, the results will be more than good enough, no matter which you choose gopro has slight disadvantage in low light - but its action camera, low light isn't what its designed for or its intended use on the other hand it has advantage in the new lenses (even thou I think they are a gimmick) its up to you what among the little detail differences is import to you dji action 5 seems like the best option right now, but DJI had (has) its own problems (like release with limited bitrate) personal I hate the way dji is controlled (but that might be because I am long time gopro user) just pick the you one like and you can buy cheapest and dont forget to consider older models, gopro 11 was sold on sale for 100€ and its perfectly comparable to the 13 or action 5

I don’t know which will be better for you. But I have been on the Go Pro train way too long and I will be getting off. The Go pro over heats non stop. BTW I have the Hero11 and the Hero 13. Both of them have overheating issues. That’s really it but it’s enough that I’m not able to continue recording in the southeast for more than about 20 minutes. But I have been wanting The newest insta 360 and DJI always has a premium feel. Now aside from that I use the Canon R6mkii for video or photos. But I always said that if I went more in depth with video I would purchase a Sony line up.

I've had almost every GoPro since the GP4. Just got the Max2, but in all honesty, I think my favorite is the 13 black.

I think saying the Insta360 has terrible image quality is really just a flat out misstatement. The Ace Pro 2 has a log profile, but I agree with you on the 10 bit. No one else is doing 8k and the detail from that footage is amazing. Their pure video mood does great in lower lighting conditions. I have had every GoPro from the 3 onwards, but in 85% of the situations I shoot, the footage is better on my Ace Pro than my Hero 13. GoPro’s auto detect lens system is cool, but low light footage is still a joke. The anamorphic lens still isn’t on the market, there will never be a version of Quik for Windows, the company is doing layoffs, twice delayed their Max 2 camera which is now 5 years old and Insta360 has released 6 separate 360 cams in that same time frame. Fast charging is nowhere in sight despite both DJI and Insta360 having it for a while now. I still love my Hero 13 and GoPro as a company but their stock is over a buck and in danger of being delisted, financials are dire, market share and revenues are declining in relation to their competition and they seem behind the curve when it comes to innovation instead of leading it. It’s really a sad state of affairs.

You should send it back to Insta360 if it’s shutting down. I don’t have similar problems with my x3. If the footage looks like it’s from 2005, then you likely have one of two problems. The first is that you are filming in a resolution of less than 5.7k or you are reframing your video and expecting the reframe to be 5.7k quality. Reframes are generally somewhere between 720p and 1080p depending on the FOV so that is in line with cameras from more than a decade ago. It’s 5.7k over the entire 360 degrees so any reframes are just a portion of that. The X4 might be a better bet for you since it’s shooting in 8k or 33 megapixels while the X3 is shooting in about 18 megapixels. If you are looking for 4k reframes in a consumer 360 camera, there is nothing out there or in the immediate pipeline that can do it yet. When it comes to non-360 action cameras like the Ace Pro, it does shoot in 8k now. That’s 33 megapixels of video in fantastic quality - DJI can’t do it and neither can GoPro. You can crop your 8k Ace Pro video in post to a quarter of the resolution and still end up with a full 4k resolution crop. No other action camera can do that right now. I still love my GoPros but they are becoming less and less of my workflow as Insta360 and DJI are coming up with cameras that have better sensors, better low light footage, fast charging, less overheating and better designs like the flip up screen on the Ace Pro. I use whatever tool works best for my workflow and right now the Ace Pro and Action 5 are proving to be better cameras for what and how I shoot than the Hero 13. I am intrigued about the anamorphic lens for the Hero 13, but it was announced almost 3 months ago and there is still no clue when it’s going to be released. I can’t shoot footage and create content on hardware that isn’t available. Insta360 has released 6 separate 360 cameras since GoPro released the Max and my guess is that GoPro shelved the Max 2 for another year because they weren’t going to have 8k while the X4 has it and has been out for almost 8 months now. If GoPro doesn’t get their act together, more people like me who buy several cameras a year are going to move away from them and move to their competitors. I wish it wasn’t the case, but laying off developers and engineers means your product pipeline probably will be advancing at an even slower rate than it is now. I hope I am wrong and GoPro comes back strong but they are failing now and have been for some time.

I got the gopro 13. I AM SUPER EXCITED. thank you guys.

I don’t have a preferred brand. I had the Hero 5, 7, and 11. I decided this time to try something different. I can totally acknowledge that the Hero 13 maybe better than its predecessors. I don’t think you can go wrong with either camera for the average user.

The Insta360 X5, GoPro Max 2, and DJI Osmo 360 will require a special case in order for it to take sharp footage underwater. The GoPro Hero 13, DJI Action 5, and Insta360 Ace Pro 2 shouldn’t require a case as long as you don’t go too deep.

I have a GoPro Hero 13 and just switched to a DJI Action 5 Pro. The difference is not even funny. DJI is cheaper, has far, far better low light performance and better battery run time. It also comes with a charger and 3 batteries at that lower price point.

Hi, I’d be happy to help. I have the entire action range and GoPro 13 etc. Couple tweaks for the action 4 is always film in 4:3, not 16:9, also set your white balance manually, if sunny use 5600k. I’ll post some videos of my action 4 and can totally help with any setting suggestions if you like my footage. Additionally I have the action 5 and GoPro 13 if you either return exchange I can still help. [DJI action 4 manual settings video test](https://youtu.be/b5FI-nYrAvQ?feature=shared) [same roads, DJI action 5 test](https://youtu.be/WH3UN2RFo7s?feature=shared) [GoPro 13 black in 5.3k](https://youtu.be/v5zUyY4Efeg?feature=shared)

I like my GoPro 13, my GoPro 10 broke and they replaced it with a 13 through my subscription. Only issue is the replacement took an actual month, a MONTH, and countless emails between support, honestly about 24 emails. As a direct comparison, my DJI drone broke and DJI replaced it via NEXT DAY AIR, after 2 emails. I literally had a claim submitted the night before and got my replacement the next afternoon. I have tracking numbers for both as proof. 30 days versus 1 day replacement times.

I own a insta 360 x5 and the quality honestly isn’t the same as my GoPro 13. The insta 360 uses 8 bit color, 30fps max. GoPro uses 10bit color at 60. The GoPro has much better color science right out of the box.

The GoPro 13 won’t be too different in low light than your 11, it’s the same sensor. I like my action 5 but you’re right about the colors . The 13 is better for colors. The 13 has way less overheating than your 11. I can’t help much with the sim racing, but I do motorcycle vlog educational content for folks to learn. I own the action 5 and the GoPro 13, plus many more. Here’s two helps to help you decide. In my personal opinion you’d be best served by the GoPro 13black or the action 5, more so the action 5. The reason being it won’t overheat, and you’ll switch it to DLOG color mode to remove the crazy HDR effect you were mentioning. [example of color and stabilization GoPro 13 motorcycle](https://youtu.be/l3HoBggp2sU?feature=shared) [night ride motorcycle dji action 5](https://youtu.be/y7ENSoDiaUg?feature=shared) [dji action 5 new firmware day motorcycle](https://youtu.be/WH3UN2RFo7s?feature=shared) You seem really passionate about your content - I’ll help you out man. For editing check out davinci resolve. It’s better than capcut and free , for 4k exports & anything. Also for the warranty, If you purchase on Amazon you can get a 2 or 3 year extended warranty covering the camera plus drops or cracked screens. I’ve delt with GoPro support and they were NOT helpful. I’ve yet to contact dji support.

Paragraph 1 - yes . The action 5 will be better all around without any post editing. Another thing that may help is the DJI has a front facing TOUCH SCREEN. This is immensely helpful, when I use my GoPro 13 on my helmet I have to literally flip the camera down then adjust settings from the back of the GoPro, as the front isn’t touch. The dji also has instant web cam mode, just plug in and you’re good. The GoPro make you download a program. 2. Yes the insta ace 2 also does HDR blown out effect, like the action 5 in normal mode. Though the ace2 doesn’t have a way to turn off HDR like the GoPro and action 5 do. For GoPro you Just select normal not hdr. For the action 5 you use the dlog 10bit mode, removes that HDR effect. 3. Regarding spyware, both the new GoPro 13 AND the action 5 require activiation using the app. Quik for GoPro and MIMO for DJI. So both are bricked until activation, GoPro used to be ready out of the box : not anymore. To answer your question no spyware is involved because I simply don’t use the app after activation, you can just activate and delete. Honestly if you’re super worried you can simply use any floor model at Best Buy to activate your device quickly. I used my iPhone to activate then deleted the app after. 4. For video editing download or YouTube Davinci resolve, it’s honestly the best. I’ve used everything. I was overwhelmed with davinci the first hour, and was like what have I done, then it clicked in my head and it’s the best program I’ve used for editing. It has both Go pro and DJI color lut tables built in to the software you just click color then click your brand then boom. Long story short for anyone reading, DJI if you just want one camera. GoPro 13 + action 5 if you can get both. Anyone feel free to add more. I think I’ve covered it but I may be missing somethjng. I’ll help anyone that needs it, YouTube is best way to get ahold of me. I got you! Subscribe for automatic video tests, I ride my motorcycle everyday and film my commute for educational purposes. I’ve taught over a dozen people from 0 knowledge about motorcycles to riding on their own around the neighborhood - same day.

Hi op, one issue is you’ll now no longer be waterproof. I use the DJI mic 2 internal recording inside my helmet to a GoPro 13. You can check the sound here. [action camera with DJI mic2 inside helmet no wires retains waterproofing](https://youtu.be/y7ENSoDiaUg?feature=shared) Use the mini as the second camera, the 11 black as your main. I have a 13 as main and either an action 4 or insta 360 as handlebar.

I’ve got an X5 and a 13. When I cut the footage together you can tell the difference in the colours and rendering. I’m not going to buy a max 2, but I can imagine wanting one if I didn’t have the X5 as it will presumably look better next to any other GoPro footage.

I got my Hero 13 here for less than $250 and they offer a warranty - https://quickshipelectronics.com/products/gopro-hero-13-black-5-3k-hdr-27mp-camera-2-battery-bundle-chdcb-131-rt-2024 Do an internet search for current promo codes you’ll be able to knock another 10-20% off.

Yes. They run a large eBay store (https://www.ebay.com/str/quickshipelectronics) that has sold 1.6 million items and has 99.4% positive feedback. I originally saw their eBay GoPro 13 listing but then tried to see if I could get it cheaper directly from their site, which I did. I also googled to see if I could find a promo code, which I did find. I just took a quick look now and found a current promo code that works on their direct site for an additional 10% off (SIMPLYCODES10) which would bring the Hero 13 down to $251.99. I think they increased the price slightly because when I bought mine about 6 weeks ago it was $250.00 and then I got an additional 10% off bringing the total price to around $225.00. They also provide a 1 year warranty. I did a lot of research on this seller before buying and the consensus seemed to be that they are selling open-box returns of the Costco GoPro 13 bundles. When mine showed up, the box had definitely been opened before but everything inside looked brand new without a scratch on anything.

Get the Hero 13 black

The opposite. The 13 is better in every way apart from low light. Also more options like max lens mod, macro, anamorphic, don't forget DJI has waited till GoPro release this last w years then released theirs the same time. Action 6 was filed really early this year they will have no clue what to do with it now 😂

You need a GoPro subscription and pay 99$ for the upgrade, you can upgrade 2 cameras per year. Send them in, and get the hero 13 (you have to ask for a gps camera when offered a hero 12)

[https://community.gopro.com/s/article/GoPro-Subscription-Camera-Replacement-FAQ](https://community.gopro.com/s/article/GoPro-Subscription-Camera-Replacement-FAQ) This should show you the process. But basically, go to your help desk, create a replacement inquiry - put in your current camera and SN# and wait their reply on which camera they offer. If they offer you the Hero 12 you can get a Hero 13 by telling them you need GPS. So you'll either get a Hero 12 or 13

They have competition. Mainly insta360 and DJI from what I've seen. DJI seems to sponsor a LOOOOTTT of YouTubers so I don't trust those reviews. Insta360's low light capability seems impressive and obviously they have better 360 cams. I don't hate gopro but I do hate that the main selling point of the 13 was "purchase more lenses". And the quik app is kinda annoying. I wish GoPro would make another Session with in-camera stabilization That said I have a new 12 and loving it. My 8 is having problems after 3 years of lots of use

I just got the 13 and two batteries for $319 at Costco.

I have a 12 and now a 13. Shot every day with the 13 for a week in a tropical climate at 180mbps log 10-bit h265 (labs firmware) at the maximum resolution and never once crashed or overheated. I don't doubt that some circumstances have caused issues for people, but I haven't managed to run into them over a few years with the 12 and a month with the 13.

I have 2 13s and the only thing that would get me to upgrade is GenLock.

Battery life: 10, however it's settings dependent, film with proper settings and film properly, a single battery can last you the entire day. Go around filming hours of "nothing burger footage", not only do you have an editing nightmare on your hands, but depending on settings, you may get less than an hour. Usually using proper settings and proper filming technique, my battery could run for nearly 2 hours non stop (but I would never shoot that way as that would be insane). Stabilization: 10, GoPro won technical emmy awards for their stabilization, who am I to argue? Water Resistance: 10, The camera is waterproof if you close the doors properly and haven't bent the doors like some people have. Resolution: 10, the camera records in 5.3K. You need a beefy system to edit it, but we're rating the camera, not your editing system. Frame Rate: 9, There are numerous frame rates available, and you need to select the proper one for the filming you're doing. I give the Hero 12 a 9 out of 10 as the Hero 13 improved the frame rates with burst slow motion options. Your friends likely read some online hysteria about GoPro's without any proper 1st hand experience or knowledge of them. The fact is they are a hugely popular model and this means that professionals and amateurs get to use them. Professionals have no issues, amateurs who don't bother to actually learn about their camera, may have issues if they aren't willing to learn how to avoid issues (terrible cheap SD cards being used, trying to film a static scene using action settings etc).

GoPro's are quite good camera's for this, however you need to know how to set your camera up properly. "Interviewing" people isn't exactly an "Action" environment so therefore you need to set your camera up with the correct settings for a "non action" environment, it's literally that simple. Get yourself either a GoPro Hero 12 or 13, some spare batteries or the Volta and the media mod. If you're filming 3 to 5 minutes at a time, overheating with a properly setup camera will never be an issue.

A free camera is always worth it as there has been 0 investment. However the Hero 8 is old, the batteries are old, it has a non removable front lens protector and the batteries do not work in cold weather. The Hero 13 is a brilliant camera (I've actually bought 2 of them). The interchangeable lens options (macro, anamorphic, automatic ND filter setup) just makes it a powerhouse of a camera.

Overheating is caused by using poor settings choices for the filming type being done. Set up your camera properly for the filming type and it won't overheat. There's no difference in low light between the Hero 10, 11, 12 and 13 since they all use the same sensor. The only difference is the amount of "Denoise" being selectable (or being able to disable it completely using labs) which means better opportunity to denoise in post. Frankly using the labs and post processing will get you better low light results with a Hero camera [https://snokefilm.no/labs/gopro-11-labs-max-video-quality](https://snokefilm.no/labs/gopro-11-labs-max-video-quality)

I would get two GoPro Hero 13s, especially considering the fact you may want to use them for cooking videos. The HLG HDR option is going to make the videos look great if you don't have a lot of time for processing in post. For close up shots, the Macro Lens mod will enable to get crisp clear shots at about 4 inches from the subject. The magnetic mount option will enable you to quickly move between mounts. If you're getting two the same, then technically, you cut down on expense as you can interchange batteries, accessories, lenses, mounts etc. between the two cameras.

For out and about "hands free" livestreaming, the Hero 13 has both upgraded Bluetooth (for camera control) and upgraded WiFi (for livestreaming/file transfer etc). Livestreaming results though will be limited by your hotspot/phone bandwidth and cell tower distance/speed as well as your internet plan (which if mobile, could be limited or restricted after a certain transfer allowance is met).

GoPro Hero 13 with the Macro Lens Mod. Then add the media mod and a Rode Wireless Go 2 microphone system. Frankly though I like using the right tools for the job. When making "review" videos what require overhead close up shots, I'm using a good quality webcam (which is going to work far better indoors in low light than an action camera). For flying, I'm usually using a multicam setup with 2 X GoPro Hero 13's, a GoPro Hero 10 and GoPro Hero 11.

The Hero 13. The taller 8:7 sensor, 10 bit color, most lens options, redesigned thermal management, burst slow motion, optional lenses etc. turn the camera into a complete production powerhouse.

The GoPro Hero 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 are all the same size and use mostly the same accessories (HB series lenses for the Hero 13 are not backwards compatible, nor are the Hero 13 batteries backwards compatible). Dive cases and mounts are all the same. If you have a dive case for a Hero 9 or 10, it will fit the Hero 11, Hero 12 and Hero 13. The Hero 9 and 10 have the same sensor. The Hero 11, 12 and 13 also all have the same sensor which is just a taller version of the sensor used in the Hero 9 and 10. The proper settings will make all the difference when filming in different lighting scenarios. Filming in a flat profile and color grading in post is the best option for Hero 11 and earlier. Filming in GPLog and color grading in post will work best for the Hero 12 and 13. The GoPro Labs firmware has several tweeks (including a DIVE mode) for helping with stabilization underwater as well as color balance for the temp (color) of the water. Your sharpness should also be set to low when recording.

Don't use a Max 2 for this, it's completely unsuitable due to the amount of heat it generates (it has a giant heatsink on the front for a reason). Great action camera however will be very poor for fishing videos (which sorry to say, isn't action). Get a GoPro Hero 13 and the Digipower Refuel battery pack. It fits around the camera similar to a media mod and it's waterproof to 33ft. It will allow you to film for between 5 to 9 hours (camera settings dependent). Then simply set your camera up for "non action" filming and you won't have any overheating issues. I've reviewed the Digipower refuel on my YT channel and I use it for my livestreams (outdoors, hot and cold environments) so you can see for yourself how long it runs for (shorter times are when I needed my camera back). Link in profile. Good luck!

The Hero 13 hands down. Amazing camera, great lens options, love the Anamorphic widescreen lens.

I use the GoPro Hero 13 because they have far more options than the competitors offer. Interchangeable lenses, higher native resolution (compared to an "upmixed" resloution), highter bit rates, higher frame rates. Then there's the GoPro Labs firmware which gives you far more filming features, adjustable log, GPS triggers, Motion triggers, audio triggers, and the ability to run scripts when it comes to the filming you want to do (which saves a huge amount of times) then the ability to boost the bitrates even higher. The competitors also tend to do dishonest marketing by paying people to trash GoPro's or downplay their features (kinda like your post!). I cannot stand that type of marketing and it's just a crappy way to do business.

There are a lot of things that are "sure" and one "sure" thing is that GoPro did not mention anything about releasing the GP14 in Q1 of 2026 in their investor relations call. So that sounds like "Bad guesswork" by people. With the long development and testing times between models, I wouldn't expect to see a GP14 until Sept 2026. The introduction of the Polar white and Forest green editions of the GP13 means that GoPro are still sticking with that model for quite some time (not surprising considering it's such a good camera). In the meantime, you should probably research the difference between filming in 360 degrees and traditional FOV's when it comes to action cameras. The extra editing steps involved, the pro's and cons.

Supposedly the 8 was made during covid and has so-and-so issues, **No, the 8 was made long before covid and it was a great camera. However it did have a "hot pixel" issue with the sensor that would result in fixed blue or red (or both) dots during low light footage.** 9 had blah blah issues, **The 9 was the Covid camera, delayed multiple times and just plain didn't work upon release. There's a well known audio clicking issue when using the in camera mics and it was the last camera to use the GP1 processor (which meant the camera was underpowered and lacked certain abilities such as clipping full resolution footage and being able to offload those clips in camera).** 10 freezing, **The 10 doesn't have freezing issues, it was the first camera to use the GP2 processor and it is a rock solid camera. "Freezing" comes from having a corrupt SD card which hasn't been repaired.** 11 corruption problems, **The Hero 11 improved upon the rock solid reliability of the Hero 10 and added even more features such as a taller 8:7 sensor, 10bit color and "in camera" night effects. Once again, people using corrupt SD cards or incorrect SD cards would suffer issues.** 12 overheating, **The 12 had all new firmware written for it that took full advantage of the GP2 processor. This enabled bluetooth audio, HDR video, timecode support etc. The issue with overheating is the same with all action cameras (regardless of brand). People have no idea how to film or set up their camera's and will often use the highest "action" settings available as they go for a "walk" or stand around "Fishing" and then wonder why their camera overheats.** 13 becomes a homewrecker... **The 13 is GoPro's most user friendly camera yet. All new thermal design, all new automatic lens detection, Upgraded Wifi, Upgraded Bluetooth, HLG HDR and more. It's GoPro's best camera yet with some amazing features added to the labs firmware.** Maybe 14 will make you commit tax fraud. **If only it were capable of making people smarter and doing better research about camera's........**

The GoPro 13 offers new burst slow motion options of up to 400FPS. Combine that with the GoPro labs and increase the bit rate, you get some sweet looking footage.

You simply shouldn't be using a magnetic mount other than swapping around for quick vlog setups. The mounting systems even warn about using them for action sports or on motor vehicles. Personally I liked the Hero 13 so much I bought a 2nd one for my b-roll/pickup footage. The things that really stand out to me are the anamorphic lens option (really can make footage look cinematic), the macro lens mod for getting close up shots or adding a nice background blur to vlogs and the GoPro Labs Firmware (which gives you the ability to access much more settings and features that the competition simply can't touch).

The GoPro Hero 13 is the latest and greatest, it also is their easiest camera to use with automatic lens detection and camera setup.

Yes and no. There's a huge difference with the GoPro above water thanks to the HLG HDR video, Anamorphic, Macro and HB Series ND filters (which are automatically detected by the camera and it sets itself up to use them properly). WiFi and Bluetooth has also been updated However since none of those are useful underwater there's only really 6 things that would be an improvement over the 10. A: Bigger, longer lasting Enduro battery B: Redesigned Thermal Dissipation with extra heat sink. C: The taller 8:7 sensor (which was noticeable in my wife's scuba diving videos, as now she wasn't accidently cutting out parts of the video where her hands may have been reaching for something). D: The 400FPS burst slow motion. E: The "DIVE" mode when using the GoPro Labs which ensures that Hypersmooth is applied correctly when underwater. F: In camera renamable presets (useful for diving).

Yeah, then they're both good camera's. I use the 13 currently as i need the GPS, but if the next osmo has gps built in again I might switch back. No real wrong choice there.

MAX2 if you want to try something new and exciting that changes the way you think about filming, Hero13 if you want the core experience from your hero 3 but with massive quality and usability upgrades.

DO NOT get an 11 mini for filming ANYTHING either stationary (blog stuff), or in high heat! I LOVE my 11 minis (yes, I have several) but they are not meant to be used as a stationary camera! I use them for FPV drones and they work great. If there isn't air moving over them they WILL overheat in hot climates. Personally, I love my 13. Yes, it's pricy, but it just works. It has built-in GPS, so I can track it if I lose it, and it doesn't overheat... Ever. That, combined with my gopro subscription ($50 year) allows for unlimited cloud storage of GoPro files and $99 "no questions asked" replacement for when I break stuff.

I run a YouTube channel as well. I film long form with a gp13 and gp10 but for shorts I use my iPhone16

What do you mean “When cam and phone are close contents get uploaded to phone and google photos”? I’d recommend the GoPro Hero 13 — I used it on a recent trip at the pool and beach, even in the sand, without any worry about damage. It’s a rugged camera, though I should add I’m a careful user — I wasn’t slamming it against rocks or anything like that. Also, if you have a GoPro subscription, you can connect it to WiFi and it’ll automatically upload your footage to the GoPro Cloud in the background.

I own the GoPro Hero13, Insta360 X5, and Osmo Pocket 3. I upgraded from the Hero8 and the 13 has been great for jet skiing, skiing, and snowmobiling. The X5 is solid too, but I stick with GoPro for chest mounts. It’s perfect for kayak shots though. The Pocket 3 works best in stable, planned setups. Also, my iPhone 14 Pro Max delivered amazing results in Hawaii and the DR. Use whatever fits your needs, GoPros are still around for a reason.

Hero 11/13 Black. I use a Hero 13 with the BossBoss Racing helmet visor mount. Skip the Hero 12 for lack of GPS.

I love my Gopro Hero 13. [Here's](https://youtu.be/y0Wqx267N5A?si=tMPk3KjqG0fSiKcY) a sample of it with the anamorphic lens and media mod.

I use a Gopro Hero 13 with a media mod (way better sound that cuts down the wind noise), and an anamorphic lens. The anamorphic lens gives a nice wide view, and the stabalization of the camera is wonderful. [Here's](https://youtu.be/AJgiyHYf_fs?si=nffiwmVrPkygig5H) a sample of my setup.

Hero 13. I've only used that and a5 and it's so much better.

Exactly! Especially after the "fake" reviews on YT where the person was sponsored and given a review manual with dos and don'ts and ways to favor their camera over GoPro. Or the (now over?) cease producton on the AP2 that few know about. The Hero 13 can do 10 bit HLG HDR in camera...and it is quite an improvement (if your display can show it). The magnetic latches and power/signal door are nice as well. The latter can be used on the 9 onward. The former, potentially on earlier cams if a new finger plate becomes available. The new lenses are v good. They 9:16 for IG / Tik is great. DJI and Insta don't have most of this, and look worse in action use which is generally daylit or nightlit. DJI has had data mining complaints, mostly on the drones but who knows if that extends to the cameras. And Insta...well...geez what they do...and from before their first camera came out....oof. And...with all the fake "reviews" out there...only one of the action cameras can focus close...GoPro. So many of the rivals can look meh at vlog distance, but behind them is noticebly clearer....cuz the lens in its range. Sorta the reverse of isolation from a full frame camera...

DJI does more in-camera noise reduction than GoPro. You can always do 3DNR in DaVinci Resolve Studio for instance. Very adjustable! What you can't do is easy lens swaps with DJI. That is a major deciding factor amongst many who shoot action. Those who do much content, quickly advance past built in presets and one-button fixes, many note. Some share their editing process online, it is certainly not instant. Some have staff, or hire editors, like how wedding pics and vids are contracted out. The great clips shared by GoPro are not uploaded right out of the camera direct to their pages. There is much more time spent after a shoot. Just like how a 2 hour movie in the theater was not made in...2 hours.

I would just buy a GoPro - reason being that I don't like the fact that the DJI camera app is not on the play store. Second reason is that the Ace Pro (while a good camera in many respects) has no front display. So it's difficult to frame any kind of selfie type shot. Even when the camera is held at arms length on a small selfie stick, it's hard just to guess where you will be in the frame. Yes, you can flip the back screen up, but I find it easier and quicker to use the GoPro. I mostly capture trail runs with mine, so prefer less fiddling whenever possible. Just my 2c. I like the insta 360 software ecosystem (GoPro Quik is horrid on Android), but they really need to enable that front display for things other than status. If the framing issue isn't important to you, then go for the Ace Pro 2.

Personally 10 might be to young for the x range 360 cameras solely because the advanced features and the editing it’s pretty detailed especially if you have never done it before, I have both a GoPro hero 13 and an insta360 x5, my 10 year old uses the GoPro as its smaller and less likely to be impacted damage wise plus the GoPro footage needs less editing both are different types of action camera. What you can do is download the insta360 app and add a video from his phone and get him to edit it via the app he may well pick it up very fast Good luck in you decision any more questions feel free to ask

I would agree with most that you should probably avoid the camera and enjoy the underwater world for the first few dives but if you are really clear you need one, a GoPro is best the new ones like Hero 13 have great battery life, you can just keep in on through a dive if its only to record for your memories.

we just going to ignore gopros massive overheating problem here Ill add some - for you. GP13 \- Overheats easy \- Corrupt files

Go pro 13 definitely, 360 doesnt really work well for scuba.

If I were to pay full price, I would have gotten the DJI action 5. Every GoPro I have ever used have at some point just snagged for no reason. But I have used the DJI action and action 3 for years. They simply just work every time. I use a hero13 now because I got one for free. It's great, but it did fail me once for no reason, right before doing a speedriding line which I really wanted to film.

I just bought the my 1st camera like this, and got the 13 bc it was $299. Before that I used a Fujifilm XP waterproof and that was about $130 10 years ago.

I agree that the diminishing returns between the 12 and 13 doesn't justify the 13 for most users. And as you said, the 10 still goes hard

I have 2-10s, 5-11's, a 12, and a 13. My 13 is acting like a 13 year old child. 🤣 It doesn't listen to the voice commands and in general doesn't cooperate. The 11s & 12 work great. High quality and very dependable. I love using GoPro Labs for customizing the functions and controls.

11-13 really no different except if overheating is an issue for you 13 is better or if you want to use the mods. Also find the 13 batteries charge really fast if you use a good cable but the capacity don't seem significantly better than the previous enduros

After reading your post I had to look up how many Fps is the highest a GoPro13 can go and seen that it’ll give you 120Fps at 4k 16:9 format but the 1080p format offers you 2 more options to record at 200-240 Fps. GoPro13 does have a 5k 60 Fps but not 120 is what I see in specs. One thing that’s for sure is that I agree with everyone talking about how hot these get because damn.. I was never big on these cameras but I’ve always wanted one for versatility and portability but did not want to spend the money when I have a more reliable and manual option with my mirrorless camera. But after scoring one I’m happy with my videos (shot at a sweltering 1080p 60Fps after riding my bike to the taco shop in 70-60 degree weather) and photos I get with ultra wide attachment. One thing I will point out is that I was very disappointed to find out how much the new GoPro13 sucks in low light situations, just testing out camera in living room with tv light on I got the crunchiest/noisy pictures I haven’t seen since point and shoots in the early 2000s. Anyhow I was set on buying one of these and never looked at other action cam options because of the amount of accessories and the hyper smooth stabilization option which turned out to be really cool for me and my bike rides.

And there it is… this subreddit has people anticipating what new features GoPro will have and even though they are mostly educated guesses nobody really knows what to expect. But in my opinion if other action cams are delivering better low light results than the new GoPro 13 (which sucks in low light) I would definitely hope the 14 would accommodate that vital feature

I’m afraid I’m not able to answer as my 1st action cam turned out to be the 13 finally. I’ve never tried other action cams before

if you are up to post processing (color correcting / grading) gopro is the beast. honestly i'm not a fan of quik as well but premiere does all my stuff. if you are more into auto mode and prepared stuff, dji can a be go, too. never liked insta series for underwater footage, just not my cup of tea. you can check my profile, i'm only posting underwater footage for various subs. all shots made by gopro (some of them with 8, some of them 11 and rest is 13). also i'm a freediver so all my footages are above 15 meters. to be precise my most shots are between 5-12 meters. Thus, i don't need much of an external light source. I was using dji from time to time, too but their aggressive marketing strategy (our camera is best rest is shit) really make me put my dji away.

that is very nice explanation if you don't mind i want to add 1 more thing. 13's Gplog profile is really amazing. especially if you are into color grading / post processing, you will love hero 13. but if not, user above explained everything very nicely.

The GoPro has sharper picture and will record higher quality video but you will need lights for filming in darker conditions as it doesn't handle low-light well. The Osmo handles low-light a bit better but the image quality is much softer and less detailed than the GoPro.

13. But haven't tried the Max2 yet

Well the 360 would make sense when surfing, however under water footage will suck. For these purpose anything from the Hero 10 would get you there. The 8:7 ratio would help framing your shot on the surfboard, so I'd recommend going for the 12 or 13.

I just bought my first go pro and I'm loving it. I had seen them back in the day and thought they were really cool, and I finally decided to buy one, no regrets. I will tell you this: I'm glad I bought the GoPro hero 13 because it's rugged and waterproof and has really great filming options. When you hold it in the hand, you can tell you have a nice piece of hardware that will be able to withstand everything you can throw at it. I'm not sure you will have this same feeling buying a cheap alternative, maybe it feels cheap in the hand. Had my go pro 4 days now and really really glad I spent the extra money. I'm even starting to look at lenses.

I’d say Hero 13 for longevity due to the 1x1 POV or the new GoPro Hero if you don’t need professional level quality. If you want professional and cheap than Hero 12

Both work well under water. Just remember to get the dive housing.

I just got back from the Caribbean with a GoPro 13. I had no issues with it underwater. The gopro 48" extension pole comes with a remote but I did not know the bluetooth remotes dont work underwater so you will have to manually hit the record button. I would get either get a long extension pole (it comes with wrist strap) or get a floater handle (with wrist strap). Not sure on the 12.

Whatever you decide I need to clarify few things regarding GoPro Hero 13. First, I'm not sure about overheating but for the three weeks in hot and humid climate I used camera not even once it overheated. My Pixel phone did while taking pictures! For those 3 weeks I bought 4 batteries and with GPS on, 5.3, HDR, Linear profile I had to swap them maybe few times (obviously it depends how often and how much I recorded, but total size was about 260GB on SD card) My experience with GoPro support is terrible which is still slightly better then Google support.

Hero 13 10 bit LOG Ace Pro 2 8 bits LOG You decided

I would suggest something on the lines of a hero 9 or 10 with a enduro battery I also do videos of racing and those cameras are the best specially with the enduro battery I also have the 13 but i'm currently learning on it

Lots of people say it’s just a niche product but I have a GoPro 13, a iPhone 16pro , eos r50 and if I take a video on all three I can 100% zoom in and get real weird about how the grain in the leaf on a tree 50 foot away looks blurry or whatever, but all in all to the average doom scroller there’s very little difference.

Except for safari, GP13 is very good A good alternative could also be a 360 camera, especially for things like cage shark diving. I personally think Insta360 is better than GoPro for 3d cams

GoPro 13 is not as good for low light shots compared to the competitors. This is true and there is no need to doubt the bias of youtubers, you just need to see side by side comparison and the answer is more than obvious. But that doesn't mean the GoPro is bad. I just got it recently and I've been doing very successful outdoor videos on my channel with it, beautiful footage, extremely sharp for details and the audience really enjoyed watching it. If low light recording is important for you, it may be an issue, otherwise any last generation action cam will do great.

The over-heating issue of the GoPro 13 makes it a no-no in my world. I just bought one and regretted it instantly.

I REEAALLLY wanted to get the Action 5 Because GoPo has been FF-ing’ up that last 8 years or so. My GoPro 11 looks far better than the GoPro 13. I couldn’t believe that the image quality has basically stated the same since the GoPro 8. That one is my favorite. Small form factor, bad ass 4K footage. Only downside low battery life. So I changed to the GoPro 11 with Enduro Batteries. Game Changer. The ONLY reason I considered leaving GoPro was because I use my DJI Mics and the GoPro mic is not that good. BUT it has NO good Bluetooth audio when connected to the DJI. Just terrible. So I’m stuck recording separately audio and video. Such a damn hassle to find the matching videos and audio post processing. If DJI would have better video quality I’d buy it in a heartbeat along with the DJI mini mics, using Bluetooth. Man both companies are really FF-ing’ up. I’m hoping the new GoPro 14 has good Bluetooth audio so I can upgrade.

I film and make hiking videos and have a ton of cameras. I do not like iPhone footage. Looks too sharpened and saturated to me. I used a GoPro for years. My current one is a GoPro Hero 11 Black and I absolutely love it. The 9 & 10 were buggy. The 8 was solid but the 11 is so much better. The 12 and 13 don’t have enough upgrades to justify. For better footage, set the field of view to linear. Gets rid of the fisheye look. Set sharpness and saturation each to -2. Set color profile to natural. Get smooth, steady shots and don’t swing it around like crazy. It’s a great starting point. Once you get the settings dialed in, you just need to press record for 99% of shots. So it’s easy to use. It’s durable and waterproof and small also. I don’t mount it to anything (unless I’m climbing or rappelling). I got a cheap tripod/extension handle off Amazon and just carry it. You won’t want all your footage to just be a straight ahead shot anyway. I just bought an action 4 but the verdict’s still out on that. If I were to recommend one camera it would be the DJI osmo pocket 3. I absolutely love it. But it’s pricey and if you’re starting out the GoPro will do good enough.

They're just slow in terms of progression on the market. Don't get me wrong I love em I've had a session 5 for 4 years and it's done me wonders for whitewater kayaking, it's light small, alright quality and does what an action cam should do. I recently bought the hero 13 from costco (2 days ago) for £300 2 batteries and other bits of stuff, and am thrilled with it. But then again, the argument could be made what really changed from the 13, it has a new magnetic door thingy, and slightly better battery life, with the enduro batteries. Compared that to the improvements dji or insta make, that's where the hate comes from imo. The reality is, everyone has a brand they like they're all really good, and it depends on what you need/ want, for me a gopro is best, but for someone who is hiking and wants cool footage an insta360 x4 or 5 may be a better option. It does just boil down to each and every person's option tbh. And the hate isn't on the camera but the lack of improvement between generations imo, especially considering what each new gopro is like £150 more on release.

I say the hero 13. I have one and it’s great. I hear good things about the dji osmo action 4. Not the 5.

Both 4 and 5 are great cameras. The 4 has a way better battery life and is simpler to use. The 5 has a bunch of added features that suck battery life and I’ve heard are mostly useless to some people. I have not used either, but have read a lot of reviews. I wound up going with the hero 13 black and I really like it.

Hero 13 is pretty awesome and will probably be perfect for you. A point and shoot camera will also do what you are asking and be more versatile.

Get a hero 13 black.

Just get the GoPro if you are not planning to shoot at dark places

I own the DJI action 3, insta 360 go2 and X4, and none of those could ever replace my Hero 13. Photos are better, the starlapses are nice, the camera records GPS data, the videos can be set to 8:7 vs the typical 4:3 offered by DJI...

I would suggest getting the 13 or the 11 since they have GPS and you can track your speed and movement across the soccer field. But if you don’t need that, any 11-13 would fit your needs.

I have used GoPros and gotten good footage from them, especially if you're talking about snorkelling/shallow water where you still have good color information without the use of extra lights. I've not used the DJI Osmo or Insta 360 action cams, but I've heard good things (especially about the Osmo) about their color science and producing a better overall image quality. The new GoPro 13 has some nice official accessories (ultra-wide angle and macro wet lenses) and has sort of an "auto-video" creator that uses AI to cut up your videos if you don't want to edit. If you're going to edit yourself, then it's obviously not much of an advantage. Even though these action cams are waterproof to a certain depth, I'd still recommend getting an underwater housing (around $50 for a GoPro). If you rinse it well in freshwater after every time you use it, you might not have any issues without the housing, but I would rather spend the $50 and make sure I'm not getting salt water on my camera (the salt can cause buttons to stick and other issues over time if not cleaned thoroughly). Another good option is to get something like a DiveVolk housing for your smartphone and just use that - then you don't need to buy an extra camera if you don't plan on using it for anything other than your vacation videos.

I have the Hero 13 and it is a good camera by itself, but I am just so over this company. The story is longer than the story of how the West was won. 1. I have to buy the Media Mod to get a standard audio jack 2. I cannot change the battery without removing the camera from the Media Mod. 3. I need the media mod to get mics from and back 4. The media mod assembly does not fit into most chin mounts 5. Next, I cannot record two audio streams at the same time. 6. The app can never connect to the camera 7. Many options are only present on the camera and not the app, so I have to contort my head in my helmet to be able to change settings without screwing up the angle I carefully chose. 8. Transferring videos to a phone is slow as molasses and overheats the battery 9. Constant processing errors in the GoPro online UI 10. To get decent mountain biking video I need to also buy the extra wide lens 11. Battery life is still terrible (though better on standard settings that make the video look terrible) At this point, I've spent more money on accessories for an under-speced camera than I have spent on the camera itself! **Given these issues I've had, which other cameras can be an alternative to GoPros?**

Today I had 3 crashes on an easy trail. Something is wrong with my bike. I don't know how they happened. They were bad crashes, one in a rock garden. Today was the last day of the bike park. How fitting. Both the GoPro (brand new, $300+) and the ultra wide lens ($120+) broke. I've wasted so much money on this sport at this point: a nice bike which is now thrashed and ruined and looks ghetto, all of the GoPro stuff, a new full face helmet that isn't worth a damn, a $375 bike park pass, riding gear and jerseys. I think I am done with this sport.

I own both 11 and 13. 11 does everything great like 13. If you can afford it, go for 13. It’s more future proof, but you can also get two 11 for the price of one 13.

I went out of the GoPro path, but came right back (first GoPro was Mark 3). Hero 9 is too old. You need 11 to level up, and it’s really cheap right now. 11 was a huge update. I skipped 12, and I don’t see so many advantages since I bought 13. I’m not disappointed, but the end result looks exactly the same. Maybe I’ll buy the overpriced Ultra Wide lens (I shoot downhill mountain biking).

Loved our go pro 13 for snorkeling when we were there!

For me, the advantages of the GoPro are its 8:7 sensor, compared to the Ace Pro 2's 4:3 sensor, where vertical images lose information from the top and bottom of the frame. I use the GoPro to record POV videos in first person by mounting it on my head, and it's almost unnoticeable. The Ace Pro is very large and heavy, and when you mount it on your head, your neck and forehead start to hurt after just a few minutes. The GoPro integrates its mount into the camera body and gives you the option to add a magnetic mount. On the Ace Pro, there is no integrated mount; you are forced to use the magnetic mount, which makes it even taller, larger, and heavier. Even though the processor and sensor of the GoPro 13 are the same as those of the GoPro 11, the image quality and detail during the day are better on the GoPro than on the Ace Pro 2. GoPro offers the best cloud service, and it’s unlimited.

I just got this exact setup using work points for being at my work for 5 years. But the hero13 is ASS. I "upgraded" from a hero4. With this "upgrade" I dont have issues if cam is actually recording or if it can even turn on, I have to do a battery pull at that point and rare. The downgrade is the mic options. I cant use a wired mic without using the bid ass media mod. My brother gave me his because he didnt want to use that monstrosity. Attached to a helmet is just fricken obnoxious. I own gopro stock for like 5 years now and its no surprise that this company is absolute ass. I shouldnt have bought the 13 but here I am stuck with this large innovative garbage.

Quality relies on a lot of things. The most important will be compression. If you want to watch something high quality while streaming, they need a really good service to make sure it loads properly. Or you should download it and then view rather than streaming it. Streaming services will compress the videos you upload to save space. If they can fit a 200mb clip into a 125mb compressed format they will. The videos you take on your phone are stored locally, no streaming needed, and thus no second layer of compression. Your phone also has a ton of processing it does that the action camera might not do. There's many contributing factors and resolution is actually near the bottom of the list. Resolution is a bad metric to use. Far more important is the recording codec, bit rate, and colour space. For example 12 bit colour will appear much more detailed and "high quality" than 8 bit colour, even if the 12 bit is 720p and the 8 bit is 4k resolution. In some cases, the videos will be intended for editing and then rendering in a different codec than their native format. Or they will have a few options, like a codec meant for good enough right now video and a codec that has more data and needs to be edited and processed. Any decent camera store or manufacturer will have the "white papers" for their cameras, the technical specifications where it says what the recording codec is. If it just says "high quality" it's probably crap meant for customers who just want to press a button and make it work. Like with the Gopro Hero 13 it has Video Compression Standard H.265 (HEVC) Color Video Bit Depth 8-bit 10-bit (4K and higher) So as you can see this one makes the decision of pairing higher quality bit depth for thr 4k resolution. It's not just more pixels but better pixels. That's the kind of thing to look for, because the image quality will vary based on which resolution and framerate you pick. So if you need a super slow motion 240fps video, the Gopro13 will achieve that by compressing the video quality. This is why you shouldn't always record at higher framerates. Some vloggers do it because they always want the option of speed ramping their video if something interesting happens, but with this camera you'd be sacrificing quality even before mentioning that faster framerates need more light so there will be added noise in the image.

For diving, among this generation cameras (GoPro Hero 13, DJI Action 5, Insta360 Ace Pro 2), there's really no competition. DJI Action 5 is the best. For underwater shots, low light performance is the most important, because virtually all shots are low light. DJI is miles ahead of GoPro in low light performance. There are many comparison videos online (most of them aren't about scuba, but low light is low light). The Ace Pro 2 is probably fine, too, but it doesn't have 10-bit or log encoding, which are helpful if you are colour correcting your videos, and you really should with dive videos.

All the first day reviews are heavily influenced by DJI. I don't think they actually pay for reviews, but they do decide who gets the cameras before release date, so they can post a day 1 review. Now, if you are a YouTuber who posts a not-very-positive review... you won't be on the list for the next camera, and day 1 reviews get A LOT of views, so you are highly incentivized to stay on DJI's good side. This is not really specific to DJI, though. Basically all day 1 reviews work like that. If you want more impartial reviews, look at the videos posted at least a few weeks after release. Those are usually from people who bought the camera themselves. All that said... there is no contest between GoPro 13 and DJI Action 5 when it comes to low light image quality. DJI is miles ahead. GoPro is not even trying anymore. There are plenty of comparison videos out now, including those from people who aren't really YouTubers. Underwater shots are basically always low light, so I think for filming scuba, it would be a mistake to get the GoPro. As for colour, DJI has a white balance sensor, so it theoretically can do better in-camera correction. I don't know what they actually do with it, though. If you are able to spend a bit of time doing your own colour correction, you'll always get much better results.

Get the 13, i managed to test out the action 5 and honestly wasn’t impressed, and wasn’t a fan of, as strange as this is to say, how the HDR was presented. Which ultimately gave it an amateur type feel to it. One advantage is does have over the 13 is how well it takes pictures in low light environments, other than that, I can’t think of any reason to get it over the 13 imo

For what little I’ve used it for in such weather, yes it does. I believe there are a few posts in here on how to set it up for the video and picture quality when doing so

If gopro: i would get the 13 due to the changes to the battery and lense mount.

Hero13 has the same problem. You don't really want to crash into someone or go face first into the ground on the football field while wearing one on your chest...

It's because they don't have their dive case for it yet. With that said, the 13 is really good camera. Have you installed the Labs firmware on it yet?

GoPro 13 with Labs firmware is still the best action camera out there. If you think otherwise, then you know nothing about action cameras.

Just get the GoPro 13.

There's a specific use case for bothering with a 13 over the 11th. For me it's time code for multiple cameras. The hero 11 is nowhere near as accurate as the 13. The hero 11s will drift all over the place. Also if you want hlg HDR the 13 is the way to go for ease of use.

Still seems like they took all this time to not even catch up to the X5. The bluetooth mic samples I have heard sound like the same garbage the Hero13 does while DJI/Insta360 both have special wireless mics with better sound. Then on low light tests, its like not even close the Max 2 is so bad in comparison. Sucks because I wanted to use my $100 gopro sub coupon for the Max2 or Hero14.. I figured it would integrate with consistent multi cam shots kayak fishing, and work with my remote, and time sync etc.. but it isn't better than my X5... so Ill probably just get an Ace Pro 2 to pair with my X5 for fishing.

No it doesnt.. i use both fishing at the same time. I cant do 60fps on the gopro

Yes that works great.  Ended up switching to 3 gopro 13s and no 360 camera by the end of this season for the HLG HDR.. looks good on hdr1000 screens.  

I can tell you that without the dive case it is not good (no stitching, low quality) and certainly a Gopro 13 would be better. There is a nice tutorial video on the 360 community (on the app) about X5 with diving case. The images there are amazing https://preview.redd.it/8ve47i5lwhjf1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a374e1887725701823624b14de9d511dca9544a4

Keep an eye out for 2nd hand 13s. I managed to get one unopened for 370CAD while it is like 580ish retail. I lowballed the guy but he was getting no offers and sold it to me same day. I am extremely happy with the quality. Low light performance is poor but I went in expecting that and in well lit areas when it is dark I didn't find it that bad.

I've recorded for 1hr plus continuous with no overheating or corruption playing Paintball and longboarding. What are you doing, leaving it stationary in the desert lol?

My fav camera to vlog with out of my GoPro 13, Sony A6400, and iPhone 15 has been the Pocket 3. Great looking footage, versatility, stable, and MINIMAL. I can vlog in public without feeling self-conscious because It's just so small, especially without any of the attachments.

With the GoPro Hero 13 Black vs DJI Action 5, it’s not all black and white. If you watch the videos, they compare the cameras 4K to 4K which isn’t realistic because the GoPro Hero 13 can film up to 5.3k which is a big jump. They knock the resolution down to 4K so it’s “Fair” but it’s really not. And a lot of the DJI videos are actually promo videos or paid sponsorships. I have a 13 black, and it is truly an amazing camera I love it so much

They are at the same level. GoPro still has it‘s reliability issues, but it‘s nowhere near as bad as it was with the Hero 10. DJI made a huge step with the Osmo Action 4 and 5. Both the GoPro 13 and the Osmo Action 5 can deliver everything you asked for.

Got the hero 13 black couple months ago , lol glad there’s no 14 actually , I can enjoy this a little more , if there’s a 14 next year I’ll jump on that

Welcome to the GoPro world! If you want to buy used, get a GoPro Hero 13. Used/pre-owned get a Hero 11 (the 12 had some unfavorable updates). If you find some good deals, the GoPro Hero 9 is the oldest of the "modern" family of GoPro cameras. GoPro releases a new model every ~1 year and the updates have been great. Some people may complain that a new model isn't "significantly better" than the previous model to a degree of warranting an upgrade, but I'm fine with that, they just want to push the best tech currently possible. The camera itself is waterproof but you'll need to rinse it after submerging in salt water. I have surfed quite a few times with my Hero 9 and Hero 13 and I've had no problems. The gopro is submersible to a certain range so you'll want to check that first but if you're just surface snorkeling you'll be just fine. The GoPro is perfectly capable without any extra lenses but personally I recommend the UltraWide lens mod if you do get anything. On the stock lens the newer cameras have linear, wide, superwide, and hyperview already. You'll want to get the "The Handler", a GoPro handle that floats in water in case you let go of it. Other than that you'll need a good SD card and you're all set - needs to be one from the approved list on the GoPro website (but not necessarily bought directly from there). MicroSD cards need to have high quality reading/writing speeds to avoid video corruption. Feel free to send me a message and I can give you a lot more information or we can work out a call or something. I have a lot of experience and I really love my GoPro :)

Looks like a chatGPT kinda question Get the hero 13, unless they launch the max 2 before your trip. As pointed out earlier, this is the GoPro sub. You’ll get recommendations to buy a GoPro. Oh, and you’ll need extra batteries. No cam I know (I have both GoPro and DJI) works for 6h. (Not that you’ll keep it on for 6h, but just in case)

GoPro Hero 11, 12, 13, et al **Image Stabilization:** The #1 thing you want is image stabilization and GoPro is the best. There's absolutely no reason to film anything if the end result is all shaky and unwatchable, doesn't matter how beatiful the colors are or how nice the contrast looks, etc. Also, you can run "GoPro Labs" official hackware which lets you program functionality and parameters into the cam via QR. **-- The following is true of all action cams regardless of brand --** **Battery life**: Batteries on these things do not last no matter what brand. Battery tech is all the same - no one brand has some magic tech that makes batteries last 5x longer and all battery life sucks. ***You have to run these off external packs*** unless you want to change batteries every 45 to 60 minutes. For reference: I do 24 hour timelapse shots (4K) and a 40,000 mah battery will power a GoPro for almost exactly 24 hours (I get 5% battery remaining when I go get the cameras) but that is doing timelapse which is a photo every 0.5 or 1.0 seconds - If you are filming 4k *video* footage the battery usage drops SIGNIFICANTLY and your storage usage SKYROCKETS. **Overheating**: Action cams are meant to have airflow or at least not be filming static 4K/120fps shots in direct sunlight for extended periods of time. The OG idea of an action cam was something small, rugged, element-proof, with good image stabilization that you could throw on a surfboard, motorcycle, hang glider, etc. and get some crazy shots. These cams will overheat quickly taking video at 4K and slowly taking video at 1080. In this context (no airflow) ***you will most likely experience thermal shutdown before the battery is depleted*** regardless of recording settings. When I capture stuff during summer or hot days with direct sunlight I put a USB-powered fan right up next to the camera running off another 40,000 mah battery pack. **Auto-splice:** You want the video to be cut into chunks in case something goes wrong. This way you don't potentially lose the entire video. Also, you really don't want to start building mega-GB size files, they get unwieldy and depending on the file allocation table of your storage device, it might not recognize files over a certain size. **Don't buy an action cam with unrealistic expectations.**

I tried both, I’m selling the Dji action 5, photo quality is just better on the Go Pro 13. I like the linear feature for vlogging. Plus the cool macro lens. I’m tired of everyone pushing Dji products on YouTube. Have you looked at the company on Wiki. Might think twice and support a US company.

I've had my hero 4 since it came out. And its a great camera, never heated up the only reason I bought the 13 is because I can't find any batteries that are new for the 4. Well, when ever I try to video anything in 60fps the damn thing overheats and either freezes or turns off. I never had that problem with the 4. That and they got lazy with innovation and let dji take their lunch. Oh and how the hell is it possible that the 13 has worse low light video than the 4?!?! Smh

Im always incredibly disappointed every time i record something on a gopro 13 the quality is below that of dji o3 not to mention how much better o4 pro is

I don't know ive tried a few different gopros even installed labs to get higher bitrate and it just looks like compressed mush on my tv

I had the same decision to make a couple of months ago. Since I fly FPV and do cinematics I wanted the best Picture Quality. After waiting that all the sponsored reviews for the A5 were done I watched some a coupe month after release and was shocked about the bad details due to the low Bitrate Some videos were shocking how bad the DJI looked (minute 11:20 https://youtu.be/NuJbZbMm2P8?si=qfWAyMYz0Mtywk7x). Gopro is far from perfect, especially the slow charging speed is annoying but at good lighting Gopro still stays the best. There was a new Firmware update at th A5 which bumped the Bitrate but now the battery claims are completely off. Other reasons for the Gopro are the Labs firmware. I created my main settings into multiple QR codes and don't need to fiddle with anything. The last Killer feature for me are the better color profile for color grading, the 8:7 aspect ratio and 5.3k. That gives me much more freedom when reframing shots.

Many videos shown on YouTube are from the launch periods and are sponsored. Especially the DJI Action 5 was pushed pretty hard in my opinion. But they all make great videos. If you want low light performance I wouldn't go the gopro way. But in good light conditions I'd say the gopro still has the crown. For me the killer features though are 5.3k 8:7 and Gopro Labs which adds features no other action cam even comes close to. Those all help a lot for editing.

I picked it up. I’m enjoying it more than my other GoPros by far. If it works for you - go for it. In the end it’s got to meet your needs. I needed a camera that had various options, could endure being tossed in a sling bag with minimal protection, endure some rugged handling, and offer enough hardware to clip it almost anywhere. With the Macro lens I can also offer up interesting shots on another level that I couldn’t before and it just meets all my needs. So yeah - go for it if it works for you. You’re always going to find positive and negative reviews. You’ve just got to discern how to weed through all the fluff and extract the facts.

A full size Gopro will definitely hold up better against crashes than a o4 unit. Im also assuming OP prefers analog for its latency New gopros like 12 and 13 are better in portrait because they have 8:7 resolution and its best for gyroflow data Dji action 5 has overall slightly better quality but not as good for portrait/gyroflow Gopro 8 apparently has best low light capability

I like Action 5 Pro for its combination of features - ease of use terrific video quality and the seamless integration with Wireless Mic 2. But for pure video quality, taking nothing else into account, GoPro Hero 13 still has the edge over it.

What you are seeing is heavy investment by DJI and Insta360 in influencer marketing - ie YouTubers, IG posts etc. GoPro as a company put less attention to what influencers include in their videos and posts than the other two competitors do. Insta360 and DJI do make good products, however GoPro still have the best image quality hands down. They are losing out on influencer marketing trends and have not successfully got the market excited about the new models. Hero 13 is a warmed over Hero 12 which was already a warmed over upgrade of Hero 11. DJI hit a home run with the integrated wireless mic system for Action 5 Pro. Image quality is not as good (I own and use both, direct experience) but the usability with that mic system makes me reach for the Action 5 more frequently than Hero 13. GoPro really needs to invest in new technology soon. Your Hero 13 is an awesome camera, enjoy it and don’t be put off by the influencers. They are paid to say what they say. Even if that just means a free camera (the phrase ‘no money has changed hands’ means there were freebies)

I mean, you said your 11 does it fine, the 12 and 13 weren’t massive upgrades, the native LOG is a nice but you can get that with GoPro labs. If it works, it’s better image quality than anything I’ve see from Insta, still a bit better than the action 5 imo. Stabilization does use more battery, you can shut it off and use Gyroflow or Reelsteady in post to avoid the battery drain. If you’re moving around outside where there’s usually *some* air flow, it really shouldn’t overheat. My 11, in a media mod case, can record in 90+ degree heat all afternoon without overheating as long as I’m moving around. Honestly tho, Insta360 isn’t a company I’d consider trustworthy. Pretty much every release this sub is full of people having QC issues as well as just a mismatch between advertised specs and real world usage. They tend to focus on novelty to get users interested and the actual camera usually leaves people wanting a bit more.

I’m not OP, but the 13 is a single lens camera with swappable lens covers that can change the FOV. The max 2 is out, you can order it now, and it’s a double lens 360 degree camera. They’re using the same sensors and lenses I believe. Do you want 360? If so, max 2 is your guy. Don’t care about 360? Then the 13 is good. Hell, the 10 and 11 are pretty damn good too.

I've been able to test both GP13 and OA5 back to back recently. Both are capable of impressive video. My observations/opinions after a couple days of limited testing: **GP13** \+ Better UI and overall experience \+ Smaller and lighter (once you include mounting the OA5) \+ More natural looking footage straight out of camera \+ 8:7 and 5.3k offer a ton of flexibility in post production \+ Go Pro labs functionality \- Very poor in low light **OA** \+ Noticeably better in low light (bigger difference than I expected) \+ Better dynamic range (retains more shadow and highlight detail) \+ large and bright LCD \- Requires post processing to get a natural look IMO GP13 is better all around for easily getting quality, natural looking footage with minimal fuss. OA5 will be better for diving or other low light scenarios if you don't mind shooting D-log and post processing.

I have a gopro10 and a gopro11 and both of them can be switched in linear mode, have good focus on 1 meter distance, so I would say they can be well used for this use case -- and the gopro13 I am sure, too. However when it comes to close-up recordings you will need a different camera, or maybe some lenses that enable that. I have no experience with wireless mics, but I mount a rhode mic on the gopro, and can say it's performance would be well suited for this use case. Gopros can run hot (until they shutdown) when running longer, but this is not a problem for me, as I am usually not taking such long takes in one go. However I am saying that because you say you want less post production, maybe want to do longer recordings in one go. I do not know how the gopro13 handles overheating these days.

Just got a hero 13. It s a good camera. Known brand. Used it for 3 hours straight as a web cam, it worked fine and was slightly warm.

Okay by what im gathering here is if I stick with gopro I'll be pretty much in the same boat till I introduce more ambient lighting within the "cockpit". Then through editing I could probably make it look very good. But the DJI has better heat dissipation, up to 16 connected cameras by a remote ( instead of 5 with gopro ) and the low light is immediately miles better. Dji seems like the right route to go even over the new insta ace pro v2. I watched a ton on that too and it seems very digitalized. I'm a bit concerned with the comments I've read ( which is quite a few ) about there being back doors and Spyware in DJI software.. is this true? I do not want to use my phone for editing. I'll use my pc after capturing. . I really appreciate that man, thank you. I'll check out DaVinci Resolve. As for the warranty side I do with a local to me store. They have in store, refundable warranties. Plus I know some of the managers. I never buy warranty but through them. And for gopro it's pretty mint and easy for me to go in and deal direct with them and not deal with gopro at all. But with DJI I'll have to deal with dji. So another consideration as I dont like jumping through hoops trying to get service.

Man, that video looks really damn good. You can tell though that DJI has lots of processing happening live. It's sharp. Crisp. Colors are really there. But it still looks good. Like really good. My buddy who sim races and uses a DJI. His content looks fucking insane but I do really also like the somewhat natural tones of the gopro. Well that's very interesting ( responding about gopro comment earlier ). So really the gopro doesn't look bad. In my opinion in that scene it looks like how you would expect in the very dark areas. Basically only seeing where the headlight is shining and then whatever various ambient bouncing light peripherally. I'm still stuck on what to do. Just cause the warranty coverage I can get on the gopro is worth every penny. But obviously for what I'll use it for the DJI is the better choice right now when it comes to be able to see everything without it being too dark. See I could use my warranty in the summer or next year or up to 5 years from now if gopro decides to make their camera better and more in competition to everyone else in terms of low light.

No problem! I definitely understand what you are saying about mounting position, i have things and ideas to get the camera closer to eye position ( which is what i am going for ). I do have a dslr that I have contemplated and probably will setup in a fixed position elsewhere on the rig. But my main concern is the head Cam pov. One day I may incorporate a helmet into the capture as well. I have a bunch of other things likes nets to setup still. My goal is for realism. So I do like the gopro for The darkness anyway in comparison to the other cams as I feel it looks more realistic. But it's very dark. Even when I have some ambient light coming in, if I increase iso to 1600+ it gets to much noise. If you see my video links I have been able to color grade things pretty well I think for someone whose never done this stuff till a couple months ago. It's just quite dark most of the time. I haven't considered to much going to a more vlogging style camera just due to the approach of mounting solutions and size. That's also what makes the dji kind of interesting, it's very small. But I don't like how much I've read about Spyware and back doors in the programs.

GoPro 11 Black is reasonably priced and it has both GPS & accelerometer. 12 doesn’t have GPS, 13 has both but is spendy. Love the clarity and resolution.

GoPro HERO13, Insta360 X3.

I have both and I use them for my rides. For Day Time footages, nothing beats GPH13 with some filters(I have all lenses except macro) and DJI AP5 is excellent for all kind of lighting though I have never tried taking footages in low light. But GPH13 comes with GPS whereas you need either Apple Watch Sports Mode or GPS Remote to capture speed overlay in your footages while post processing. GPH13 is actually not bad in night but if you have sufficient light then you should be fine. But do not expect it to capture excellent footages where there is absolutely no light. But footages taken indoors with some amount of lighting will be good. But I heard that Insta360 Ace Pro2 is best in low light mode though never tried.

I bought a GoPro Hero 13 in December with their promo for a year of their Cloud service, and also my credit card had a $50 credit for it. It was an acceptable price; I did not want to buy a DJI Osmo because the data might flow into Beijing. Lighting is critical for GoPro. I tried using it in my house and the exposure is low; low light performance on Hero 13 is quite bad because it’s meant for outdoors and well lit environments. I’m pretty sure GoPro is going bankrupt in the next year so I would only buy one if you got a good deal or a special package. They may also begin fireselling GoPro 13s as their cash position worsens over the next year. https://preview.redd.it/hzq0lm96rsee1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42d6fcb7561d9df0d42da3e6b577ecacfebc286a

I've got the GoPro Hero 13 and I use it on my bike in Saudi Arabia. I also use a Garmin bike computer, a DJI Neo Drone with a DJI RC-N3 remote controller. Out of all these products, the only one that has never overheated on my +45°C rides is the GoPro.

I got the GoPro Hero 13 for my trip this summer, purchased when it was $100 off and accessories were marked down

I really wanted an ace pro 2 because of the low light. I got a hero 13 for Christmas and so far have been happy. I have only used it in snow while skiing or snowmobiling which is what I normally use it for. Very happy as I upgraded from a hero 8

The HERO 13 no doubt

I use a GoPro 13 with the Ultra Wide lens for stabilisation. It's mounted on a chest harness while technical running and it's not too bad.

https://www.reddit.com/r/trailrunning/s/zw1D9hHtgF there ya go. There are some real harsh impacts and big jumps in this video but the Ultra Wide lens does a good job considering.

I'd recommend a GoPro (need underwater housing for it and the little stick). They're up to the 13 now, but even a 9 or 10 will deliver great results for that. No need to get into the inky endless abyss of underwater cameras quite yet

No, you're misunderstanding. Every year there are people with older cameras that want to renew. My 13 is great and wnt buy the 14 as the upgrade will be minimal. However, if I had an 8 I'd certainly see the improvements.

I own a DJI Action 5 Pro, Insta360 Ace Pro 2, GoPro Hero13, and several older models. The key advantage GoPro has over the rest is its ability to capture daytime 5K footage. Both DJI and Ace Pro 2 footage have a noticeable artificial and overprocessed look, making them appear unnatural and overly sharpened. In contrast, GoPro’s footage is much more realistic. GoPro’s 5k footage is also sharper than the 4k images from the rest. And of course, we all know GoPro night footage is unusable .

Thanks for the insight. I just bought a Hero 13, but I would really like to shoot at night. Do I need to get a DJI?

DJI overall by a hair for the average consumer. GoPro if I could mess around with color correction or anyone with time and patience to post process/edit a little.

My Hero 13 over heats every warm day while filming baseball games. Useless in the southeast on 88 degree days.

Does the DJI actually record at a decent resolution for 4 hours? I have a Hero 13 and can get 2ish hours out of a battery in HD 1080p with image stability on. I use it a lot on long bike rides, so I just pack a spare battery or two and have plenty of footage. I’m not running 3+ hours any more 🤣

When will they produce a Cycling Specific out front mount. I feel like Insta360 killed this game and realized there are a lot of people using their devices for cycling content. My fear is with the connection to Hollywood for filming, GoPro won’t address niche content creators like DJI and Insta360. Hope they prove me wrong. I’m going to bite the bullet and swap out a Hero13 for this Max2. Wish me luck!!

The 13 is the latest and greatest But if you want to save a few dollars I'd go with the hero 11 I still prefer it over the 13 for some use cases One reason specifically: I like to shoot in 4 : 3 with horizon locked which is perfect for shooting on a pole filming another rider The 13 only let's you do this in 2.7K 120fps Whereas the 11 let's you do this in 4k 30/60 fps

I have GoPro 10/12/13. And insta360 Ace pro, 90% filming while scuba, with occasional daughters recital. I noticed a significant difference from 10-12, also huge noticable effect for some reason in the GoPro labs results as well. I did not notice that much of a different 12-13 and for some reason I'm having more thermals with the 13. I ended up going with the Ace pro primarily for twilight/night dives but I'm starting to use it more and more for all dives.

Beware if you're an android user, the Action 4 will not let you use the camera unless you download it's app to activate it first. However, their app isn't supported by Google Play, so you have to go directly to their website. For me, this was enough of a red flag that I returned the action 4 and a got a gopro instead.

When I go to the GoPro sub I see a lot of complaints about overheating and multiple other complaints. You won’t see that here and that aligns with my experience after owning both.

You’re looking for WiFi connectivity. Bluetooth would take forever. The GP13 had WiFi connectivity. Direct connection to a computer via SD card would probably be the fastest. Get a case if you’re in the water a lot.

I’d go 13, can’t stand that they changed the battery because I have so many for my 10s and 12 but I’m imaging they’re going to stick with the new platform

if battery life is not a priority - definitely gopro 13

I have both Gopro13 and the Ace Pro 2. One was a gift and the other I purchased. If I know I’m going to need solid video I, use the DJI Osmo 3. But of the 2 action cams, I almost always reach for the Ace Pro 2. It just has a better feel, especially with the explorer grip. Even takes great photos.

This. I wanted to upgrade my GP9 to 13, but Insta 360's Ace Pro seems slightly better, just like DJI's Action 5. However, Action 6 is literally days away. If GP14 isn't launched this year, then GP will be behind competitors quite a bit for a while. Is the GP13 awesome? Yes. Do I like GP as a company? Yes. But if for the same money I can get much newer tech, I go for it. Simple as that. Got multiple Gopro's but gotta say, I love my Osmo pocket 3 and the Action is looking very good.

Ace Pro 2 has design flaws.. It has better picture then X4 but not better then Hero 13 in 4K. Also 240fps slowmotion is far better with Hero 13. The price is also on the side of Gopro..

Don't believe the hype. The GoPro is solid and has always been. The 13 is better than the 12 and the 12 is better than the 11, etc... Most of them including the DJI are a good choice.

I currently own an S1RII, a BMCC6KFF, and an OP3. A lot of things I’m doing require delicate rigging but for any “quick and easy” action shots I’ve been favoring the OP3. Image quality and gimbal reliability are top notch. I’ve owned a few GoPros (original 360, Hero13) and the Ace Pro 2. My OP3 has quickly surpassed my thought of ever wanting to buy an action camera again. In summary. Buy it.

If you want a GoPro, get the Hero 12 Black. It’s a great camera and cheaper. The Hero 13 Black, IMO, is a 12 with some gimmicks. If you need lowlight capability, get the DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro.

We use some GoPro 13 in our company for professional advertising videos, mostly B-roll footage though, and never had a single problem. No overheating, easy to color-grade and just reliable. The Insta360s and DJIs in my previous job - not so much. I guess they’re paying influencers heavily for advertising.

I want impressed with the X4 during adventures so I sold it and got a 13 and 12 to film back to back trying simulate 360 capture but at “10.6K”. That turned out to be more work than I wanted. I preordered the Max2 right after the press release. I have been much happier with it than the X4 or my pseudo 360. The replaceable lenses are a huge selling point to me. The image quality has been fine, not over heating, decent battery life. As for reviewers I have always had similar experiences as DC Rainmaker so I tend to trust his videos. For action uses get the Max 2. For other needs and especially for lower light scenes get the X5. Hopefully GP will release a better editing option as currently it is barely serviceable.

I've had gopro's for a long time and last year got a Osmo Action 5 pro after testing it agains the Hero 13. I couldn't see a single reason to get the GoPro. The DJI performed better in low light, looks smoother, colors look way more realistic and the mic is WAY better. The magnetic mounting is really great to use too. The battery life is also better on the DJI and it doesn't have overheating problems like the newer GoPro's. Haven't used the insta360 alot, but just because of the added work in post processing made the decision to leave it out easy.

I have a hero 11 and an Insta360 X5. If you're only doing chest mount, there is nothing wrong with either hero 11 or 13 (stay away from 12), Ace pro or Ace pro 2 or DJI action 5. I've been using the x5 more and more just for its versatility. I like to use the invisible stick and use it to get some fun POVs and selfies. It does weigh more and requires more thought and editing tho. Can probably find an old hero 9 to try and see if it's something you like doing before investing full pop on current flagship models.

1) Generally people don't record for all 3 hours (though some do). While it is possible, most people do sections. Keep in mind: A lot of what you see on social media is "fudged" so riding through an area, backtracking because it's nice, re-riding with multiple cameras, then going back and getting the camera(s) is almost the norm. I can't imagine editing 3 hours of footage every road ride. You will also need to change the battery at least one time, if not twice. Storage will fill up quick. Crit races and racers might capture the entire thing, but those are generally 60 minutes or so and often packed with action. 2) Depends on how fancy you get with editing. That's really all there is to it. Adding things like "HiLight Tags"can help find everything if you do decide to record for 3 hours. 3) Most common for a GoPro is a 2-in-1 that holds your biking computer and the go pro. Most of the high-production folks also use a rear camera 4) To be honest, if you are doing bike-related content, the new standard is the Insta 360 x4. It takes the place of having two cameras. Ensures you won't miss a shot with 360 degree capture. High resolution. It has a slim/tall "aero" profile. Replaceable Lens. Good battery life. If you are going to use a GoPro, the 13 is where it's at. It's the best Action Camera right now. GoPro is way behind in this segment though. 360 degree cameras (aka the X3 and X4) have taken over road biking and motorcycle riding. Since they can capture "everything" around you.

Get a Gopro 13 with a ultra wide lense you won’t regret it

I purchased GoPro Hero 13 with Christmas discount specifically for my Iceland trip and got some sweet clips I’m happy with. Time Warp recorded my entire drive with a dash mount and used the Volta Grip and Media mod to take video footage of stuff I went to. With 3 batteries total and Volta I never came close to running out, and 256gb card let me record in highest quality for all my needs, just be diligent to upload to the cloud with the automatic GoPro upload nightly to clear SD space and back up your footage in case you lose your camera (they also have a subscriber insurance to replace your camera if lost, so I took some risky shots at times)

I am just really excited about the MAX 2.0 and how it’s going to compare with the insta360 x5 Already have a Hero 13 and looking out for a 360 cam

In terms of video quality all of the GoPros from 8 onwards are considered good, I think the only outlier is the 12 solely as it didn't have GPS (with this enabled, you can add fun infographics to your videos in the GoPro editor, like location, speed etc, could be fun on your boat). But I would try and get the 13 if you can, as it's the newest. Other comments have mentioned 360 cameras, these are great actually, and on a boat you can use the "invisible selfie stick" to get floating drone like shots. However they require time and effort to edit the footage later, sometimes a massive amount of time (plus export time which can be long if your machine is slow) so personally I would get one later as a second camera for your boat, focus on an easy to use action cam first.

GoPro Hero 13, battery life is significantly better than previous versions.

Here’s the video I made for GoPro setup that I use. All attachments fit the 10-13. It’s given me amazing quality footage.[GoPro](https://youtu.be/ZcTMPiwW118)

Really? I remember the GP9 was really, really bad. Constant problems with just hanging and nothing fixes it besides taking the battery out. Also couple of times I charged it to 100% and by the time I went to swim, so 30-40 minutes, it was already at 70% while being OFF. With the new GP2 ~~sensor~~ CPU things improved drastically, but still I wouldn't call it the most reliable camera in the world. Missed a super lucky video of my wife with an eagle ray because at that precise moment the 13 decided that the memory card was too slow (it wasn't) and it won't record. That happened a few other times this same snorkel session, albeit I didn't miss anything else epic. And then it just fixed itself and I didn't have this issue until the end of the day. Switched to another microSD for the next day of course. edit: wrong word

Disagree, I had action 4 and it was one of my worst purchase. Image quality was fizzy and needed a patch to fix. It still doesn't compare to GoPro at all. It has better software and navigation but image quality was too poor. I switched back to gopro this year and the hero 13 is amazing

I’ve already gone through the two batteries that came with my new Hero 13 four months ago. My newer Hero (the unnumbered one) is a piece of rubbish. It never stays connected with the app. There’s a firmware update I can’t install. It shuts off spontaneously. Customer support is atrocious. Just a series of questions - I prefer being asked all questions upfront. Then the “solutions” offered are ones I’ve already read online — and that don’t work. I’m told there is no way to escalate a support ticket. You stay offshore - demonstrating a degree of contempt by GoPro for its customers. Their terms and conditions require mandatory arbitration — but there’s a Small Claims Court exception. I live only a few miles from court and GoPro can be served in Hawaii. I gave their Legal Department seven days’ notice - and now they’ve promised to replace the Hero (unnumbered) with a new Hero 12. I was promised shipping confirmation on Wednesday - and it’s now Friday and nada. I’m an experienced (40+ years) pro photographer and I’m finished with GoPro.

Do a YouTube deep dive and find someone who isn’t sponsored doing an actual comparison and not a sales pitch. GoPro 13 owner here. Won’t sway you this way or another.

Again, you’re going to get some one sided comments here. I’ve only owned GoPro and don’t know about any other camera. So do your research with responses here but also find unsponsored comparison videos and buy what you feel is best

IMHO GoPro 13 stay undefeated as an “action” camera but DJI is the best travel camera. The almost square sensor let you reframe better than the others, the higher resolution (for latter cropping), the higher bitrate (big difference in daylight image quality), better stabilization and color science (could be biased but the videos comes amazing they have been refining this for 13 generations), more accessories on the market, and no spyware software. But yes, DO NOT take your GoPro on your night stroll with you because you are going to be roasted by all the YouTubers hate machine.

The Mac/Windows software for the Max/Fusion was slow to roll out and buggy. They've been back and forth with other software such as Quik and the GoPro player. What puts GoPro ahead of other similar cameras is the 5k resolution and Labs firmware which allows the cameras to operate at their full capability. That said, despite only being 8-bit my Insta Ace Pro and Insta X3/X4 are fantastic in their respective categories. The Ace blows the GoPro 11/12 out of the water in poor lighting and it records rather large 4:3 HDR video at 60fps while the GoPro is limited to 30fps at 8:7 5k. All these cameras have their uses, the GoPro cameras will overheat far sooner than the Insta cameras but if you need consistent results for colour grading / gamuts then it's far easier to use a GoPro. The GoPro also has GPS (not the H12) while the Insta does not. So it's easier to pull and paint telemetry. GoPro has had the competition edge out some more modern quick connectors that they've now adapted. It's really a case of diversity within the field plus marketing. What sells GoPro is the marketing video. Putting the cameras in places where any action camera would look amazing, applying appropriate colour grading, frame interpolation etc. I'm shocked they didn't have a big video for the Hero 13 showcasing it but rather used smaller videos to demonstrate specific features such as the anamorphic lens, NDs, etc.

FWIW, my 9 is still fine. But I got the 13 anyway, more as a second one so next time we snorkel, my wife and I can both carry one. The 13 is more responsive and has a few better features, but I still love the videos I got with the 9. A new purchaser should get the 13 unless they can't afford new, then look for used maybe as far back as the 9, but as others have said, 11 or 12 is better.

I've used the GoPro 10 and now the GoPro 13. Very good camera. Possibility of filming Log 10 Bits or, more delicate, in HDR. Works with the old remote control so very easy to start several cameras at the same time. On the GoPro 13 there is also time code which is extremely important during multi-camera filming. Possibility of filming 5.3 k. Very good camera

Is this why they keep sending me emails about the Hero12? Like bro… I just bought a 13…

Yes. Best model GP has ever made. The questions of is it worth the price over a Gp11. Or are the DJI Action 5, Insta Ace 2 better value. Those are harder questions to answer. I would suggest watching some blind comparisons on Yt and see which you like the look of more.

I would avoid GoPro Hero 10 or beyond. Those are the only Hero cameras I have experience with and they're a huge PITA especially for motorcycling. It either doesn't turn on, doesn't record, or records with no audio ALL THE TIME. If you happen to notice it's not turning on, then you get to pull over, take your helmet off, unmount the camera, and fiddle with it until you figure out what's not working. Usually requiring you to remove and reinsert the battery. It's the most frustrating thing ever on a bike and I'd argue dangerous since you're preoccupied with the camera instead of your ride. I tried working with a Hero 10 and 11 for over 2 years before I swore them off forever. I recently switched to Insta360 and couldn't be happier. The Insta has literally not one time malfunctioned or not recorded when I pressed the button. I also have an old DJI Osmo Action that never had reliability issues. I would say any Osmo Action gen or the previous gen Insta360 (R One or something like that I cant' remember the name) would do the job well. If part of its job is dashcam you might also consider a 360 camera. You'll have way butter luck catching incidents with it than a regular action cam. I also have a GoPro 360 MAX camera. Unlike the Hero cameras, it's been great. It's still glitchy at times but nowhere near the regularity of the Hero cameras. It's kind long in the tooth now too so you may be able to find them on a good deal somewhere.

All GoPro 9 or later are really good.

Hey there! I have used a GoPro for many of my professional and recreational dives. In my experience, GoPro pros are great within 30 m and have a wide depth of field, but when it comes to color, correction and specific focus, they are severely lacking. If you are seriously interested in getting into the hobby of underwater photography, or videography, I would suggest looking at something like an Olympus tough TG – six or TG – seven. these are phenomenal cameras for the money and have all the modern features you want, including automatic white balance ability to shoot in 4K at 60 FPS, as well as having all of your standard aperture and shutter speed settings all in one convenient digital camera package. I think the TG6, which I personally use runs about $400 New. You may be able to find one cheaper used, but I would definitely recommend a housing if you are frequently taking pictures and videos beneath meters or 30 feet.

Just get a gopro. If you can't afford new, get something second hand. Anything from the 7 black onward should be good.

Get whichever Go Pro is in your price range. Anything Hero 7 and above will have hypersmooth and as long as you’re not running it at max resolution and fps it shouldn’t overheat, especially with a fan or AC on in the car. 30 fps would be my recommendation, and most should be able to handle that at 4K just fine.

Used GoPro camera 7 or higher.

Literally every post now seems to mention low light. I've never had an issue with my GoPros and I've owned every GoPro Black since the 4. Sounds like your sports don't really need low light either, so not sure what the hesitation is. I own a few DJI products as well (drone, mic mini, Osmo mobile) but I'd get a GoPro over the DJI camera for sure.

I started out with the DragonTouch 4K action camera and it was good enough. I started filming my games because I had just started playing again after 27 years away from hockey. I made friends with a few goalies I met here on Reddit who were kind enough to mentor me. Eventually, the video quality just wasn't good enough for what I needed. I invested in a gopro hero black, I believe I have the 11 or 12, and bought an aluminum case and suction mount on Amazon. The picture quality is amazing, and it makes filming and posting to youtube much more enjoyable since the footage is really sharp. Crease Quest on YouTube if you want to see the difference in camera quality. My oldest videos were all with the same camera. I tried editing and fiddling with the settings as much as I could, but when I switched to the GoPro it was a complete game changer. My home barn lets me mount the camera high inside the glass, which is why I bought the aluminum case. Other rinks I play at my son has to be behind the glass moving the camera between periods. EDIT: I also mounted a small external battery to the suction mount and have that plugged into the gopro during games so I don't run into any power issues.

I have the Hero black. Night time footage is good. However, the footage makes it look like you’re farther away from the subject than you actually are. That and it gets hot during extended replay while editing.

For me GoPro always had the best mic/audio balance. insta always sounded baseless and sucked at eliminating wind noise as well