Indie (I-107, I-110, I-205)

100% agree. I have a *FIFTEEN* year old used indie and it is like brand new. People are shocked when I tell them the age of the stroller. The glides like a dream, folds easily, has a built-in bassiner function, is fully washable, and is compatible with my car seat of choice. And the company still stocks parts for it.

I have a used Bumblerider. It is a model that was discontinued in 2012. I'm its fourth owner. It looks and functions like a brand new stroller.

If you can find one, I got a fourth-hand bumblerider indie and it is a beast. Curbs, mud, gravel roads. I havdn't used it in snow yet but the previous owner tells me it rolls great. Even though this stroller is over a decade old, it rides like new and the company still sells compatible parts for it. I got the car seat adapter and the keyfit35 fits very securely. Once baby out grows the seat we'll still have the stroller for years and will probably be able to pass it on to a 5th family when we're done with it.

I'm in rural AB and am the fourth owner of a 15 year old indie. Thing is a beast. At 15 years old it looks brand new and it handles great on grass and gravel. I haven't used it in snow yet, butbthe previous owner tells me it works great. All of the parts, even for a 2010 model, are availlable on the company website. Unfortunately, it is a US brand so tariffs may be an issue. I wish I'd bought a new seat adjustment belt and bug net before those came into effect. It isn't parent facing, but there is a little window on top so you can look down at them. I really appreciated that I could pop a 6lb newborn in without any attachments or worry.

Haven't used it with baby yet, but I got an older Bublerider Indie and it rolls gorgeously when I've tested it. The inflatable wheels are a dream for off roading.

If you can get one, the Bumblerider Indie is a beast. Giant wheels. I've taken it off-road through mud and rocks and two feet of snow and it goes. On pavement it is super smooth. And it lays flat which is great for newborns and naps. The one I have is over a decade old and looks brand new. Downsides - there is no parent facing mode, it folds but not very compact (I think thay's the case with all joggers though), and the storage basket isn't huge (we still manage a full grocery shop with it, but I have to use a backpack diaperbag to free up space).

+1 Can't go wrong with a Bumbleride. We got a 12 year old one second hand. Thing is a tank and the company sells replacement parts even for our decade out-of-date model. They hold their value well, so you can sell ans upgrade to a double when the time comes, or you can get a ride-along skateboard attachment.

Ok, with a November baby I would probably go with an infant car seat that comes out of the car because it's so much easier to get a newborn in and out of the actual inside rather than standing in the snow. (If you want a rec on the convertible for after I can do that too!) Since you are on the shorter side and have average sedans you don't need a super compact seat, but wouldn't go super large either (Evenflo infant seats are out since they have some weird spacing rules). I'd rule out Babytrend too since they are not a great for average newborns and definitely not for smaller babies. And with only one planned baby I wouldn't "invest" in an expensive or luxury seat here. Some of the more expensive features are actually a detriment here as well (no rethread harnesses can push some newborn heads forward into an unsafe position). All seats, when they for your baby well and are installed correctly, pass the same safety testing as well. My recommendations for infant seat are: 1. Chicco Keyfit 30 is by far the most popular, loved CPSTs, reasonably priced, and fits most babies well. (Don't go for the higher numbers because you with NOT being carrying around this baby at 20+ pounds). This car seat also plays well with most popular strollers and fits 4+ lbs babies. 2. Graco Infant Seat (there are a few with similar names and I can grab a link if you'd like) that doesn't have a crazy limit or extra crazy features. Grab an extra base with whichever seat you get. Then, my stroller recommendation is a little different from some here. I would recommend two different strollers. The first is a "frame" stroller  1. Chicco caddy or the 2. BabyTrend universal frame stroller  This will be the least sexy stroller you've seen, but it holds the car seat. In November you probably aren't going for nice long strolls, it's light so it's easy to lift up and into your trunk or even fit on the floor of the back seat (important if you have tearing or a c section), and is compact. This stroller basically gives your car seat wheels without paying out the ass for it/making the seat heavy and awkward. You can probably find one for like $50 or less on marketplace and sell it for the same once you're done with it. By that point you'll be past the "needs to lay completely flat" phase or almost past it so you can get a "regular" stroller, not worry about a bassinet feature, and not strictly need the car seat compatibility (but you can still have it). We're also knocking off all the "convertible" strollers (Mockingbird, Vista, City Select, etc). And we're going to go more in the "great wheels (for whatever terrain) ,doesn't weigh a ton, a little more compact" direction. 1. Baby Jogger City Mini GT (not a jogging stroller, just the brand) at another $400 (or less on a sale) will get you a nearly flat recline for a younger baby, optional accessories that you don't *need* to get, tires that will give a decent ride over most terrain. It's easy to fold and weight about 20 lbs. You can also get an adapter for the Graco or Chicco to attach. 2. Chicco Viaro is around $250 and 20 lbs. This works with the Chicco seat and you can probably get it as a travel system. The wheels aren't quite as nice/the ride not quite as smooth, but it comes with parent and child cup holders. 3. Bumblerode Indie is a luxury stroller so don't look at the price ($750) because you should get this used or on a good sale. It's a little over 20 lbs, but has a great suspension, air filled wheels (with a pump but it's not an every day maintenance thing), and easy ride on basically anything. You can get an optional adapter for either the Chicco or Graco seat as well. The canopy on this is huge with awesome UV protection, can be easily steered one handed, the handle bar swivels *down* for shorter people, and a ton of storage (basket and lots of pockets). If it were me: I'd go Chicco Keyfit, (used) Keyfit caddy, and sale/used Bumbleride Indie. I wouldn't get the car seat adapter until I was sure I'd use it. I'd get a skip hop or other universal parent "console" and consider if I needed a cup holder/tray when baby was 9+ months old.

Bumbleride Indie or Era are nice to push in any condition and even a bigger kid fits nicely. Full recline in both of these. 

You don’t need a travel system, lots of car seats are compatible with different strollers. We got a Bumbleride indie stroller and a chicco car seat (keyfit? The 30 I think). The car seat has really good reviews and safety ratings and I’d say it’s a great one for the price. Love the stroller so far. Where I live almost everyone has a Bob but I wanted something a little smaller and lighter but still all terrain. We’ve taken it on fairly rugged walking paths and lots of uneven sidewalks and I’m so pleased. It’s easy enough for me to load in and out of my vehicle and it doesn’t feel too enormous to take in stores but it’s a nice smooth ride and super easy and comfy to push so it’s a nice middle ground imo. That’s my rec! I’d also advise to start by choosing your stroller and then looking at compatible car seats. You’ll use the stroller for longer than you will the infant carseat and there are huge differences between strollers depending what you’re looking for. You can find a highly-rated good quality car seat that is compatible with almost any stroller, so start with the stroller and narrow the car seat selection down that way. You’ll use can buy lots of things used but def get the car seat new! It’s one of the few things you def shouldn’t buy secondhand.

Yes, I have an old one and I've upgraded it over the years with new parts and car seat adapter. Recently, I bought the buggy board because my new baby needs it and the toddler loves riding behind (haven't used the board attachment in snow yet, but it's durable and made using skateboard materials). 

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I lovvvved the indie! It was rugged but maneuverable