Lanshan 1 Pro

Spend slightly more on an AliExpress tarp and get [this one](https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004201135005.html?spm=a2g0n.detail.platformRecommendH5.4.12c26681b3oo8L&gps-id=platformRecommendH5&scm=1007.18499.315613.0&scm_id=1007.18499.315613.0&scm-url=1007.18499.315613.0&pvid=5602b8b1-c948-485b-86a5-b7e954c57cca&_t=gps-id:platformRecommendH5,scm-url:1007.18499.315613.0,pvid:5602b8b1-c948-485b-86a5-b7e954c57cca,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238116%232002&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2279%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%228499%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22recommend%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21EUR%2143.98%2135.99%21%21%2149.90%2140.84%21%402103849717731487786918643ebcf1%2112000028359869340%21rec%21DE%21%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A37c94c5c%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895%3BpisId%3A5000000200523417&utparam-url=scene%3AplatformRecommendH5%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005004201135005%7C_p_origin_prod%3A) and save 150g. Good review of it by /u/DeputySean https://imgur.com/a/deputy-seans-oversize-borah-bug-bivy-aricxi-tarp-jpxX5NR I have used it in Europe without a bug bivy, just a polycryo groundheet to good effect, especially in areas where I know there are also shelters or other options to sleep in and the modular nature of having a groundsheet for these, and a tarp if there is no other shelter is quite nice - the amount of bugs is low enough here that I never had issues not bringing a bug net. I also own a full lanshan 2 which I bring for more exposed hiking, e.g. Scotland, the Alps etc. where I want 360° coverage. It's a palace alone so I am thinking about adding a lanshan 1 pro in silPoly to my options. Weighs 690g, single wall and in SilPoly you don't have the issue of fabric stretch in wet weather. The NightCat is just a rebranded regular lanshan 1 as far as I know, for the same price I see on their site you could get the new 1 pro directly from AliExpress.

Lanshan 1 - Is a double walled Tent. Tarptent + an inner tent. It comes with seam sealing and can be used as a tarp, without the inner tent or as the double walled version. Lanshan 1 pro - Is a single walled tent, which makes it lighter. It comes without seam sealing, is 200g lighter and costs ~$80 more. Ventilation occurs through the main entrance, a small hatch at the top and through the mesh at the lower sides, in both versions. Condensation is easier to wipe off on the pro version. \ The design itself can lead to a draft at the main entrance, but that is just how these tents are designed in general. \ If you want it cooler, in the sun, choose silver as color.  Either one works fine for what you intend to do.

Lanshan 1 - Is a double walled Tent. Tarptent + an inner tent. It comes with seam sealing and can be used as a tarp, without the inner tent or as the double walled version. Lanshan 1 pro - Is a single walled tent, which makes it lighter. It comes without seam sealing, is 200g lighter and costs ~$80 more. Ventilation occurs through the main entrance, a small hatch at the top and through the mesh at the lower sides, in both versions. Condensation is easier to wipe off on the pro version. \ The design itself can lead to a draft at the main entrance, but that is just how these tents are designed in general. \ If you want it cooler, in the sun, choose silver as color.  Either one works fine for what you intend to do.

Great and thorough intro to your shakedown. Here are some recs: - You correctly identify that your tent is really heavy. I have two suggestions. Switch to a trekking pole tent since you already carry poles. You can use platform anchors when camping on a platform. It will still be lighter than a freestanding tent. Since you do solo backpacking get a solo tent rather than using a two person tent like the UL2. Two great budget friendly options would be the Gossamer Gear The One (18 ounces) or the Lanshan One Pro (24 ounces). Both are $250 or below and almost half the weight or less than your Copper Spur. - 1 ounce for a tent stake bag is really heavy especially if it’s DCF. Is that weight right? For example, my $6 DCF stuff sack from Borah Gear weighs .1 ounces. - Given that you are sleeping in 40 degrees and above you could switch to lower r value pad or a mummy style Exped pad both of switch would save you several ounces. - Don’t use a 4 ounce dry bag. You should be able to compress the down bag in the bottom of your liner bag which will keep the down dry. Save yourself 4 ounces. - I’m unfamiliar with Adirondack hiking. Is 4 liters always necessary? That’s a lot of water weight to carry. - Do you cook in your pot or only boil water? If it’s just boiling water, swap to a 550 light pot without the lid. Weighs 2.1 ounces. Almost half. Also swap over to the BRS stove which weighs just under an ounce. Both are affordable switches. - 2.5 ounces is a lot for cords. Can you consolidate or simplify? For example, I run all of my electronics off of USBC and bring a small keychain cord which only weighs .3 ounces. - Consider switching to WYSI wipes instead of toilet paper. They get you clean, weigh less, and pack smaller. For a four day trip, WYSI Wipes and Ziplocs for me weigh .8 ounces. - If you are considering going stoveless as you mention in your post, check out the Bare Boxer Contender. It’s a compact bear canister that weighs 1.6 pounds and can get at least 3 days of food with careful planning. - 6 ounces for a hygiene kit is a bit heavy. Consider the amount of each product you actual use on a trip and get LiteSmith containers that are that size. Switch to bug lotion instead of spray as you could more use out of the same size container. - Do you need a Swiss Army knife? How much do you actually use it on a trip? Trying bringing a 17 gram Classic SD in Alox instead. I’d bet you get the same usage for a fraction of the weight. - Ditch the camp shoes. They are extra weight. As well as the clothes. - Optimize your mid layer and rain layer. An alpha midlayer and a Frogg Toggs would weigh the same as 2/3s of just your rain jacket.

You’re welcome! - Something you could do for tents, is go a budget route with the Lanshans. You could get both a One Pro for solo stuff and a Two Pro for supporting family trips. That combo would be only $360 and still be decently lightweight. - WYSI Wipes are great for situations like that given they are dehydrated wet wipes. So they help with “clean up” haha. - The Classic SD regular had a blade could be use for a bear can and has tweezers. It weighs .7 ounces. - If you need camp shoes, consider doing the classic bread bag solution. You loosen your shoes, put on dry socks and then slip lightweight bread plastic bags over them to keep your feet dry. Much lighter than camp shoes. - Frogg Toggs is a great lightweight option. If you want to spend more, the Leve jacket is the lightest option I’m aware of. If you really don’t expect rain, just bring an emergency poncho. Mine from the dollar store weighs 1.3 ounces.

Since this is Ultralight subreddit, weight should almost always be the primary concern. I’m 6 foot and 240 pounds and I’ve used the Lanshan 1 comfortably. If you are really concerned with space, consider the Lanshan 1 Pro. Being single walled it gives you slightly more space and weighs less. If you’re willing to spend more money, the Gossamer Gear The One and Durston Xmid both weigh less and have a comfortable amount of space.

Bivy -> [lanshan 1 pro](https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan-1-pro/), bivy is just too annoying to deal with getting in and out. Plus I like having room to change and store my gear. I have a couple freestanding tents that I take when my partner and I go backpacking. Love those but they’re a bit too big to take on the bike.

I have lanshan 1 pro (previous gen, silnylon), was kayaking with some people from my uni in southern france last year. We stayed at a camp ground next to a river so there was basically almost 0 danger and maybe slightly higher humidity around the area. At one point we had 2 or 3 light rain nights. This was ok. I'd say, just to make sure that you have a good pitch to make sure good ventilation so less condensation. Realistically when it rained heavily I think it doesn't matter anymore, you can't with this tent. It did happen to me and I had to find a refuge. There was no leaking but the condensation in my tent was so bad that night and the rain encourages droplet buildup so I woke up every hour. The next day I fixed the pitch and basically this fixed the condensation for the following nights. Had I actually fixed the pitch before the rain, would probably be "survivable" but won't be a nice sleep (I'm a light sleeper) was good memory lol.