3F UL GEAR - Lanshan 2

Check out the Lanshan 2. The are 2.3 pounds in the double wall version. The single wall (Lanshan 2 pro) is 2.0 pounds. [https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/](https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/) I know you don't use trekking poles, but you can get the carbon fiber poles from Zpacks and other places that are ridiculously light and fold down pretty small. You would use them in place of the trekking poles for pitching the Lanshan. [https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole](https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole) (get 2 of them). My son and myself (and my Vizsla) before I gave the Lanshan to my son have a combined 10-15 trips on one and it has been great. It has more floor space than my Zpacks Duplex. More than enough room for me (6'1" tall), dog and a bunch of gear.

Check out the Lanshan 2. The are 2.3 pounds in the double wall version. The single wall (Lanshan 2 pro) is 2.0 pounds. [https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/](https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/) I know you don't use trekking poles, but you can get the carbon fiber poles from Zpacks and other places that are ridiculously light and fold down pretty small. You would use them in place of the trekking poles for pitching the Lanshan. [https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole](https://zpacks.com/products/48-carbon-fiber-tent-pole) (get 2 of them). My son and myself (and my Vizsla) before I gave the Lanshan to my son have a combined 10-15 trips on one and it has been great. It has more floor space than my Zpacks Duplex. More than enough room for me (6'1" tall), dog and a bunch of gear.

I would recommend a 3F UL Gear Lanshan 2. I used one for two years then gave it to my son. The pro version is single wall and a little lighter. But I opted for the regular double wall version and have both the three and four season inners for it. So we can also use it for both 3 season and winter camping. It is as bullet proof as any silnylon tent is going to be.

I would go with a BRS 3000T stove which is less than 1/3rd the weight and really all you need. I have 3 of them. One for my Jeep, one for my son and one for backpacking. Plus its tiny and will nest inside a Toaks 750ML pot. If you use trekking poles. Consider the Lanshan 2 Pro tent (2.21 lbs). Or the Lanshan 2 regular double-wall (2.5 lbs). And similar price range. Bullet proof. Personally I still carry a Frogg Toggs UL rain jacket. I've tried many others and sold/returned them all. I also have a 3F UL Gear silnylon rain skirt/kilt for a little more coverage. If you are doing shoulder season trips, get some extra mid-layer insulation like an alpha hoodie or some kind of light fleece. That 32 degree down puffy probably won't cut it alone when sitting around camp at night and temps drop down to the 20s or lower.

I would go with a BRS 3000T stove which is less than 1/3rd the weight and really all you need. I have 3 of them. One for my Jeep, one for my son and one for backpacking. Plus its tiny and will nest inside a Toaks 750ML pot. If you use trekking poles. Consider the Lanshan 2 Pro tent (2.21 lbs). Or the Lanshan 2 regular double-wall (2.5 lbs). And similar price range. Bullet proof. Personally I still carry a Frogg Toggs UL rain jacket. I've tried many others and sold/returned them all. I also have a 3F UL Gear silnylon rain skirt/kilt for a little more coverage. If you are doing shoulder season trips, get some extra mid-layer insulation like an alpha hoodie or some kind of light fleece. That 32 degree down puffy probably won't cut it alone when sitting around camp at night and temps drop down to the 20s or lower.

It is the Lanshan, thats why. Made in the same factory, but comes seam sealed. Lots of videos on youtube. I have the 2 man and it's great, piece of piss to set up and pack away. 

I have the 3FUL Gear LanShan 2. If you already use hiking poles. I like it,

Lanshan 2, seriously. Me and my partner did the West Highland Way, TEAR, Offa's Dyke, various Lake District trips, etc with one and it was completely fine

For less than two hundred quid, I'd get the 2026 version of the 3F UL Lanshan 2

Durston X Mid 2 Solid would be my first choice at that budget. Plenty spacious inside for two, loads of head height, two large vestibules, lightweight and a doddle to pitch. Another option is the Lanshan 2 which ticks many of the boxes of the Durston at half the price. It has to obviously compromise to achieve this but it's arguably the best 2 person lightweight tent on Earth for the money. Full disclosure, I am biased as hell, I have a Lanshan 2 and absolutely adore it. That being said if I had £300 to spend on a tent it would be the Durston.

I seriously considered getting one of these last year when I was looking for a general use hiking and wild camping tent. Actually I considered getting the version with the one person inner as that two person inner is utterly useless if you need to cook in bad weather. I loved the pyramid shape, the enormous vestibule (with the one person inner) and the carry weight. In the end I got a Lanshan 2 as I wanted the benefits of large vestibule space and a larger inner tent.

1.8kg for a tent you can't even sit up in? I'm not into these canvas coffins at all. You could get a Lanshan 2 for less money than that (currently as low as £93.95). Giving you masses more space, two decent sized vestibules and it weighs half as much.

The manufacturer's specs say 5000mm for the Lanshan 2. > Tent body is silicone treated nylon ripstop with 5000mm waterproof PU coating. All seams taped with waterproof, solvent-free polyurethane tape. https://3fulgear.com/product/ultralight-tent/lanshan2-classic/

Lanshan 2. Weighs nothing, well within budget, big enough to sleep two and has two large vestibules.

Naturehike, 3F UL Gear. High quality, aluminum poles. Just don't buy them from AliExpress or Temu or else you will get hit with massive Trump tarrifs. Avoid importing anything anymore since De Minimus is being eliminated. Buy from Amazon for these brands. Personally I would stay away from any tent with fiberglass poles (Coleman, Ozark Trail, Core etc)

Fiberglass poles snap and break easily. They do not hold up to stronger guests of wind and bad weather. The biggest issue with fiberglass poles is they have tendency to split near the pole piece ends. Naturehike and 3F UL Gear tents cost in the same range as Coleman and Core tents but have better construction materials, aluminum poles and more mesh for better breathability in the summer time. They have full coverage rain flies so they also protect you better from rain and snow vs partial flies in cheaper tents.

Decathalon forclas is a great starting pack, it is adjustable via cords for toso length adjustment on the fly, a good starting tent is the landshan 2 if you want a trekking pole tent and the nature hike cloud up 2 if you want a freestanding tent, best starter sleeping bag is any 20 degree down bag you can afford (20 degree = 30 degree in real world use usually ,Fahrenheit not Celsius).

Are you carrying that bad boy alone? Far? 7lbs for a solo backpacking tent isn’t messing around if you’re going more than a few miles. I’m not knocking the tent & that’s a great deal! I still use a 7lbs 10 year old 3p mountain hardware tent when I can split the weight or for super short hike ins. For solo backpacking, I landed on a lanshan 2 (weighs 2lb 11oz) a few years ago it works perfect w/ the $30 carbon fiber hiking poles from Costco. Have fun!

Dane here. 'Inner first' doesnt do it for me. Theres always some kind of rain, when you need to pitch your tent here in Denmark. Do you have trekking poles? If so, look at the 3FUL Lanshan 2 (not the Pro version). Fits two people, two doors, two vestibules and weighs roughly 900 grams. Amazing tent for about 120-130 euro if I remember correctly. Check out LongSufferingHiker if you would like to see how it handles a sunny day, rain, heavy winds and even blizzards + how you can mod it to get even better than it is from the factory. I have just bought the 3FUL Taihang 2 (tunnel tent) which is just about 1,9 kg including tent, poles, pegs and groundsheet. Bought it from Camperlists for 147 euro. Took 7 days to arrive - sent from 3FUL in China (its amazing btw! Unbelievable what you get for your money from 3FUL!). Novice Wild Camper has some great videos with it. One in some pretty heavy winds (30+ mph). Also. Look perhaps at these, but are on the heavier side: OEX Phoxx 2 / Vango Banshee 200 are pretty much the same tent (havent tested them) but I believe the Banshee can be pitched in one go. Phoxx need to have the inner erected first

Lanshan 1 or 2

Yea I have the Lanshan 1 and love it but the 2 may be better for more room and if you are wanting to open it up. Make sure you get the standard not the pro.

Lanshan 1 or 2, you can thank me later

Best? Not sure. My favorite, Lanshan 1 or 2.

Get a Lanshan 1 or 2, you can thank me later

They are trekking pole tents which I was skeptical of but I like it better. They are much easier to set up, lighter, and pack down smaller. The only downside is you can’t pick it up and move it once it’s set up if you want to like the one you have posted but that’s no biggie for me. Also, get the regular version, not the Pro. I had a pro and swapped it for the regular and love it.

The Lanshan really takes some effort to get tight, and you need that in the Pyrenees. But I've seen many hikers using it. Knowing me, it would keep me awake in windy nights, so I imported the x-mid as well. Also the material is not so stretchy, so the mist doesn't make it sag so much. Buying too cheap may ruin the fun before it even started... Maybe borrow or rent for your first experiences? 

I just bought the lanshan 2, it is 2 people, 3 season. Around 1 kg. Very budget friendly!

For my first 6 week section hike on the AT, I used the lanshan 2 tent from ali express. It held up great in the AT rain and is easy to set up. And it's very cheap. Although that may no longer be the case for people living in the US...

For my money, the original lanshan has been a very good value. Taking it out agian for two weeks again next month. FYI you may need to seam seal yourself. I also used a 3F UL frameles backpack. Designed to use a closed cell foam sleeping pad as pseudoframe. it got the job done but had a penchant for snapping a few plastic components.

I’ve had good luck with my $150 3FUL Lanshan tent. It’s pretty light and has kept me dry in thunderstorms.

My Lanshan is the model from about 4 years ago, and it seems like they’ve made some changes to it since then. Still, my tent flaps like crazy in the wind even when I get a great pitch. It’s kept me dry in full on thunderstorms, but it is a noisy tent.

I like my Lanshan well enough for being a budget tent. It’s kept my dry in multiple rain storms and is light for its price point. On the PCT I met a ton of people who swear by their xmid’s. It’s a nice, light tent. I might look into Six Moon Designs as well if you haven’t yet. I switched to a SMD tent this year and am very happy with it.

I was exactly the same. Actually got as far as ordering (and then cancelling) a Tarpstar as I decided to opt for a Lanshan instead (I now have a 1 and a 2). The ability to completely open up the side of the Lanshan made the difference for me, and I've certainly enjoyed using it.

You'll find the Lanshan pro 2 very spacious coming from the 1! The two pole setup provides shoulder room for sitting up in a way that pyramid tents never do. It should solve your issues.

If you use trekking poles, just get a lanshan 2, they are super light and pretty roomy

For less than $200, the Lanshan 2 or the pro 2 is a good option. It's popular as a budget trekking pole tent. If you don't already have poles, I use $30 cascade aluminum trekking poles from amazon and they're solid and reasonably light if I'm carrying them instead of using them. For a little more money, I really like my Durston Xmid 2, but it's \~$260.

Lanshan 2 pro is king for me!

I suspect the x-mid 1 would feel bigger but not by much, at least inside the tent, vestibule space would be considerable bigger. A 2 person would certainly give you plenty of space. I have the lanshan 2 and it's a perfectly decent tent for the price, but I think the x-mid could be worth the cost difference for the easier setup and sil poly fly material. The price difference in the US is a bit less than the EU though. Also, you're comparing a single wall tent to a double wall. IMO for your climate a double wall makes more sense.

Lanshan 2 is a perfectly decent tent for the price point, I have no complaints about mine other than the typical trade offs that style of trekking pole tent has, but the durston X-mid 2 is not much more and is probably a better value.

Wife and I used a 3FUL Lanshan2 for a 2019 PCT SOBO. Worked fantastic and enough space for us and all our gear. I carried the main part of the tent and she carried the fly and groundsheet. We both used 72" x 23" Klymit Insulated Static V Lite sleeping pads and Nunatak quilts that just about fit side by side.

I own the Xmid two (non-pro) and I had a Lanshan 2 Pro. I've tried sleeping two adults and a dog in the Xmid. I would not recommend it. The dog is going to be sleeping on your mat and if they are wet your sleeping bag will be soaked through in no time.

Joining the chorus here, I have both a Lanshan 2 Pro and Durston Xmid 2. I like them both but generally I would recommend spending the extra money and getting the Durston. The polyester fly doesn't sag half as much as the SilNylon on the Lanshan. It's got more usable space to.

I've got a lanshan 2 Pro and an Xmid 2. I've had them both out in heavy weather and they both work fine but the Xmid is definitely a better tent. The lanshan sylnylon sags a lot and condensation is a big problem, but if you seal the seams properly it will keep you dry in high wind and heavy rain. The Xmid is way more flexible, you can set it up without the inner to get out of the weather in a hurry and the sylpoly doesn't sag as much. Also a much more solid pitch and way less flappy in the wind.

3FUL Tents are great quality for the price, but you're not going to fit three people in a Lanshan 2. The Qingkong 3 would be more suitable for three people. #

Lanshan 2 has been working out great for me and my kid! I got the flames creed brand on AliExpress, it came seam sealed. I'm 5'3 and it's plenty roomy for both us and all our stuff.

If you’re mostly solo backpacking why are you looking at 3 person tents? Do you use trekking poles? For that price range I’d recommend a Lanshan 1, or 2 if you think you’ll have a partner sometimes and want to accommodate that possibility while only owning one tent

I’d recommend checking out the side bar which has an ultra cheap gear list. I’d recommend trying a nemo switchback which is cheaper and way lighter. For quilts check out iceflame or aegis max. That’s a really heavy sleeping bag and probably won’t be as warm as it advertises. For tent look into a lanshan which will be significantly lighter for the same price. A 65L pack is huge and that’s pretty heavy so I’d keep looking for a pack. Check UL gear trade as packs come up on there frequently

Naturehike Cloud Up 2 or Naturehike Mongar UL 2. I have the cloud up but like better the Mongas. There are various versions of the Cloud Up 2 with different prices but also weight. I have the cheaptest and heaviest of them all at around 2 kg, but it's fine as when I go with a friend I must go to his/her pace which slower. If you check the Mongar be sure to choose the UL version. The price of that last time I checked was very competitive. That's for freestanding tents, for UL trekking pole tents you can't go wrong with the Lanshan 2.

I have the cloud up 2 ul 10d for this purpose and it seems to be fine, seeing I've only used it once. Also have the lanshan 2 with the 5 part carbon poles for bikepacking, I use trekking poles for hiking so only use the carbon ones for bikepacking. Can recommend both but there's a lot more room in the lanshan.

I'd opt either for the Xmid or a Lanshan2 (a cheaper version of the GG but actually better built IMHO).

A friend had one in Albania. He was.with his dog. We just crossed a pass and a storm came in, really strong. Tent was up in no time (he rightly pitched it lower to block wind better) and held until the storm passed, something like 4 hours. Dog was really scared of thunder and lightning but was quite happy in the vestibule. My splitwing leaked (so much for not needing to seam seal it!), the Lanshan2 didn't. I changed my splitwing with a cirriform, he kept his Lanshan2 and continues to use it with the dog.

I took the lanshan 2 pro on the JMT last year and it worked out great. I like the 2 for the extra space.

Lanshan 2 is similar to X-mid 2 weight at half the price. Can use the saved cash on other gear? Needs seam sealing if I remember rightly. Super easy to do on a dry day with the tent pitched. Hoping to go hiking with my little one this summer for the first time, too.

My Lanshan 2 Pro has a lot of headroom (while sitting).

I bought the CP2 and it's a cracking tent BUT, I wish I went for the Lanshan 2(not the pro), especially since I carry trekking poles. There's nothing wrong with the CP2 but you can save so much space and weight in your pack and have a faster tent to put up/take down. The CP2 is a bit of a drag to put up after a hard day's hike, the flip side of this, is that it's a really nice, sturdy tent (from the budget end) to be in.. Especially after all the little mods you can carry out, heavier bungie cord, guy ropes etc. If anyone has a Lanshan 2 that wants a modded Cloud peak 2, hit me up for a swap 😂

Lanshan 2 Pro gives a few more inches of space being single wall on the roof. I’m 6’2” and it perfect. Leaves enough room at my foot and head for a bit of gear.

I have the regular and pro versions of the Lanshan 2. Never had an issue with either. Just have to vent the tent correctly.

How do you like the protrail? And is it the dcf version? I’ve been eyeing that tent to upgrade from my Lanshan 2. Despite being only 5’8” my feet and head touch the sides of the Lanshan and my quilt was wet at my feet and my beanie was wet this past weekend. Protrail seems like it won’t have this issue and it’s about a pound lighter. I’ve heard of issues with it being wet in an absolute downpour or being full of condensation. Seems like it’s roomy for a 1 person though.

I have the Lanshan 2. It's a solid tent for the price. Just make sure to reseal the seems on the tarp (the anchor for the rope on the sides) as they tend to not be sealed properly. I did that once and had no issue with water leaking even in thunder storms.

For budget my recommendation would be the Lanshan Pro 2, your not going to get much better.

I second the Lanshan 2P (or 1P) good value, can be bit finicky to set up, and needs a couple of mods, but lightweight for the size and durable for the price. Have been using mine for 3 years now

Lanshan 2 Pro is a great tent for the price, an absolute palace. If I had the money and really wanted a 2 person I would go Xmid just because it's higher quality, not a Zpacks rip-off. The Lansahan is Fine. I've seen some storms with it and been peachy. I'm looking to move to an Xmid pro just because there is too much room in the Lanshan. I simply don't need it all and it makes pitching in sneaky wildcamps harder. ETA: I had to seam seal the Lanshan, twice, and spray the fly with silicon to stop misting.

If OP is thinking of trading the tent in for another one, I would opt for the only slightly heavier Lanshan 2 to be able to get your pack inside too. Dealing with condensation can be a bitch in single wall tents, especially when rain might be on the program. I kinda wish I got the non pro double wall version because of that.

The Lanshan 2 is $170 and is good quality. The Durston X-Mid 2 is $290 and is good quality. Other freestanding tents like Nemo, Durston, Big Agnes can be found for under $500 and are all good quality. Good is subjective of course, but those Mountain Gear tents are expensive! While, they might be worth the price, I'm gonna suggest that unless you know exactly why you need those tents, that the other ones significantly cheaper are gonna be more than good enough.

Hmm, I’ve not seen these but at their listed weight you might want to check Walmart’s Ozark Trail solo backpacking tent at 3.5 lbs. I’ve not tried this tent but the reviews seem okay for such a cheap tent ($47 when I checked before posting) If you don’t mind trekking pole tents and seam sealing the Lanshan 2 is just under 3 pounds and I’ve had good luck with mine. I’ve also had good luck with my Naturehike Cloud up 2, a freestanding tent that comes in around 4 lbs. But these last two seem to be about triple the price of the two you mentioned and the Ozark Trail.

my Lanshan 2 has the outer wall collapsing inside, therefore making a perfect arrangement for eh water to get through. I would stay away from it

I’ve used my Lanshan 2 in heavy downpours and didn’t have the outer walls collapsing, you may want to make sure your pitching it correctly. I highly recommend the lanshan 2, great value.

I got my Lanshan 2 UL tent direct from China on Aliexpress. It’s been a great tent, price is very reasonable and shipping only a couple of weeks.

The lanshan 2 pro is a trekking pole tent that is sturdy af & just 1kg

The Xdome 2 is super brand new and just getting released so you won't have any reviews on it. I would wait and see how it tests out by reviewers. The XDome 1 had some growing pains. Footprint sounds big for the 2. X-Mid2 has been used so much it's probably good to say it's only your decision on what version you need. I am currently messing around with a Lanshan 2 Pro which for 285$ to my door (Canada) is pretty impressive. 1072g with pegs and cordage. I haven't heard anything about the BA (other than you should check your local closing atmosphere to see if they still are clearing them out for 150$ cheaper). Probably all gone by now.

I’m 6’1”/185cm and can sit in Lanshan 2 Pro with no problem

I have a Lanshan 2 which is similar (Chinese brand) and it’s been great for me. I’ve seen one Naturehike tent out in the wild too and the person using it seemed very happy w it

Lanshan 1. Its non freestanding though but I love my Lanshan 2

XMid2—buy once, cry once. If not, the Lanshan 2 (not the pro version) comes seam-sealed from the factory. If not, the Gossamer 2.

That was the one i was gonna recommend for your budget :) that's why i asked if you used poles or not. It's a really good budget tent, i got it for 150e in Europe. I would recommend the 2 and not the pro for the double wall, especially with a dog where you might have more condensation. The space inside is amazing you won't be disappointed.

Lanshan 2 (not the pro) is great to start. Do mine for 150€ and recentely upgraded after few years. The pro version is single wall but I would recommend the extra 100g for the double wall version, it changes everthing...

A Lanshan Pro 2 is really nice (held up very well in Scottish Highlands, Alps etc) and below 1kg without the trekking poles. Start using trekking poles, your knees will thank you (I'm sorry being kind of a missionary in this regard) and you'll be more energy efficient! Nowadays, you can get quite similar stuff at Decathlon (no experience though). Both options are well below your budget.

Loooking at your budget, I would seriously consider a Lanshan 2 tent ($150-160) a Naturehike 5.8 R sleeping pad ($80-$100) and a HangTight 20 Degree Heatseeker Quit with Ground Dweller Add on ($147). That will get you a lot closer to sub 15 lbs for about the same amount of money. I know that you need a pack quickly for a trip. Backcountry had a granite gear crown 3 backpack on sale right now for $144. That’s not a bad deal and you may be able to get a better fit than Naturehike. I’m not against the Naturehike necessarily but from what I’ve seen they have been only one size fits some.

Lanshan 2 pro isnt really a 2P tent. Ita definitely more like 1.5P. It would feel like a sardine can getting two grown adults in that tent, and gear would have to go outside.

I got rid of my lunar duo and I wouldn't recommend anyone buys one if they are planning to hit alpine regions for the same reason I don't recommend the lanshan 2 pro. I don't think that it's a bad tent by any stretch and SMD makes incredible gear BUT those huge panels at the end of the tent make for a truly awful experience in windy conditions. Now, granted I probably pushed the tent a bit hard, but when it was rainy and windy I absolutely did not trust the tent. The wind deflection was awful, I got wet when it rained, and the whole tent shook. It was a palace but for anything that isn't mild nice weather camping, I wouldn't.

This tent sucks but if you don't have the money what can you do. Honestly I would say you are wasting your money if you plan to use it for hiking in other trips. It is a good tent for camping with a car etc. though. You don't need to spend 400 euros. There is decathlon mt900 2p which is around 190 euros and it is really good, but yes it's way more expensive than this one.  There is also Lanshan 2p from AliExpress for around 109 euros with discounts at the moment, it's really good, plenty of people did through hikes with it and I have quite a few miles on one  myself, I also have 1p pro version and walked traumpfad with it. ( You will need either walking sticks or to buy poles separately) If you buy the one you showed mount it to the bottom instead of top, it will be much more stable carry.

If you already use hiking poles, the Lanshan 2 would be my recommendation

Lanshan 2. Mine lasted the entire trail. I could take it on the PCT this year but I splurged and bought a Zpacks Duplex Lite. Saving a pound and a half by spending $700…. But the Lanshan 2 is still a super lite tent at 2.5 pounds.

The Lanshan 2 Pro is pretty compelling for the price. I don't like the peak vent design, but otherwise I really prefer it over the GG2. It comes in cheaper and lighter than the XMid 2, but the XMid is much more livable and better built and more stormworthy.

Check out the OEX Jackel 2, plenty of room and really good-sized porch area for cooking in. Its a tank, very solid tent but that comes at a 3kg weight. Lanshan 2 is also a good shout if you use poles but it would not be as strong as the OEX. I think are under £150

I agree with this, get 2 tents. I'd go for any 2/3 man OEX tent, cause they are bombproof and, as suggested, a Lanshan 1 or 2 for hiking.

I have a Lanshan 2 tent that’s just under 3 lbs when you include poles. If it’s warm I use a sleeping bag liner, which is just an enclosed sheet, and a quilt. Both together pack down smaller than a sleeping bag. You should also consider a sleeping pad and pillow in your weight calculations. All my sleeping gear minus the poles fit in a 15L dry bag.

Do you use walking poles on your hikes and will be using it in relatively good weather (as in you wouldnt be going to a summit in a named storm)? If so, go Lanshan

From experience I can say for sure that the Lanshan 2 and Lanshan 2 Pro (they use slightly different materials) are totally waterproof in rain and strong winds. Hydrostatic head is really not that useful of a metric for modern tents and higher doesn't exactly equal better, as once you get to the point that no water can get in you won't see any improvement from increasing the HH.

From experience I can say for sure that the Lanshan 2 and Lanshan 2 Pro (they use slightly different materials) are totally waterproof in rain and strong winds. Hydrostatic head is really not that useful of a metric for modern tents and higher doesn't exactly equal better, as once you get to the point that no water can get in you won't see any improvement from increasing the HH.

I love love love my Lanshan 2. I don't typically use trekking poles. So with the carbon fiber poles I bought for it, it weighs in at around 2.5 lbs. It cost me about $150. I've had it in very windy and raining conditions with no issues. Packs up really small, too.

The Lanshan 2 Pro needs to be a contender. I’ve given mine lots of abuse over hundreds of miles and countless Wild camps and it’s never let me down. Cheap, light weight and the brown colour is super stealthy.

I got the Pro which is a single skin Lanshan. It’s slightly lighter than the ones with the mesh inner. I used it in -5c last week with no issues other than a bit of condensation. Highly recommended. I’ve got the more expensive Gossamer Gear “the one” but I much prefer the Lanshan 2 Pro. The extra space is great.

I can't afford an Xmid yet but that is my end goal as well. For now I got a Lanshan 2 for $110 on sale

Own the pro 2 and xmid2. Both are really big tents, and great tents. You'll be able to sit up easily and get changed in both. They have big footprints. So keeping hold of your lanshan 1 is a good shout. The xmid2 has two advantages. The fabric does not sag and the walls by the feet and head are steeper. At 6ft, you'll just about be fine with the lanshan. I'm a bit taller and if the ground is sloped (so im sliding down the floor) and rain has caused the fabric to sag, then the my footbox or head could touch the fabric. This isn't an issue with the xmid. There is a bonus advantage in that the xmid2 is easier to pitch (needs less stakes) The lanshans advantage is the price. At your height both are viable, but the nonsag fabric of the xmid is a huge plus in rainy climates that you'll be hiking in.

I’m 197cm. I had a lanshan pro 2 and it was way too small, both hair and toes got soaked from condensation. I have an x-mid pro 2 now and it’s manageable if I pitch it very well and position myself carefully, kinda wish I would have gone for the 2+ though. Tarptent dipole looks interesting too, although it seems very heavy for a 1 person single wall shelter that costs that much.

my 13 year old uses her own lanshan 2 pro, has used it for 2 years now. I use a lanshan 1 pro. maybe your kids can split one tent?

Yeah the CloudUp is super nice. HOWEVER… you’ve already discovered r/Ultralight… why not take it a step further? Get a trekking pole tent (or a tarp)! I seriously recommend checking out 3FUL’s Lanshan trekking pole tent. I used it for 1000 mi on the PCT and it’s absolutely spectacular OR, get the “Twinn tarp” from Gossamer Gear, everything on their site is like 1/3 off right now!

No yeah this is the one. I used it on the AT and it’s still in great shape.

Lanshan is probably your best bet, but really consider your priorities here. This will be your home for a month.

Every influencer and their mom has done a "budget Walmart gear" review video; just watch those. For that price range you'd be better off with a cheap Chinese tent; a Lanshan or similar.

I have the Lanshan and the X-Mid. Both 2 Pro. Both are terrific tents. The Lanshan is perhaps the better value because of its low price. The X-Mid is the better performer because of its lighter weight and clever design. Both are fine 2 person tents with excellent materials and well performing layouts; although both are cramped for two people.

Can confirm. I started out with the Lanshan only to buy the Durston a year later. The Lanshan isn’t bad per se, the Durston is just so much better :) I got the Durston on an online marketplace in the Netherlands, maybe you can find something similar in your country.

NatureHike and Lanshan tents are reasonable quality, lightweight and cheap. Look on eBay for any used cheap tent by Big Agnes, Tarptent, etc. The lightest warm sleeping bag will have down filling. They are expensive but you can always find cheaper ones used on eBay. As a rule of thumb, most people can sleep without a sleeping bag at around 70 to 75°F in a tent, on a sleeping mat, wearing some clothes. For every 10°F below that you need an inch of down filling. In a sleeping bag that means half an inch above you and half an inch below you. So you can work out how warm a down sleeping bag will be by measuring its thickness once it’s shaken and puffed up fully, and for each inch of total thickness it should keep you warm at 10° below 70°. So a down sleeping bag that is 4 inches thick in total should be warm at 30° F. It’s a useful way to estimate how warm an older sleeping is, as the ‘comfort’ temperature given can be misleading. A sleeping bag with a long zip can be opened out as a quilt in warm weather. Use a good sleeping mat or pad. Usually I’d want two foam mats of about 8mm each. They fold up easily for packing. Decathlon usually have them but don’t use yoga mats, they’re too heavy.

Get a 3ful lanshan if u need cheap

I've just got a lanshan and heading out on Monday, will let you know how it holds up. I had the hyena || which was great but was a little small for my 6'5 ass

The Lanshan design really doesn't allow for airflow. Leaving the door flaps open at night and camping far away from water was the only time I didn't have tons of condensation on the walls. After three years of sleeping with a towel near my head, I ditched the Lanshan. Many other tents have a ridged velcro-covered "stick" to keep vent flaps open, and nearly all of them have two vents, so air can actually flow.

I am 6'3", have both and used them a bunch (when I take people hiking they get the Lanshan and I get the xmid). The Lanshan is terrific- like some have said, you will need to seam seal. But I have found it can be even roomier than the xmid as long as you use the two side wall guyouts. There is a technique where you take a stick, wrap the guyout around it near the top and then continue to the ground and into a stake. This pulls out those sidewalls and makes it seem so much bigger, especially for head room. That being said, my original silpoly xmid2p is a near perfect tent and the one I use on most trips. My only gripe is the large footprint can sometimes be problematic in heavily wooded or uneven terrain. I believe the Lanshan is silnylon, so based on your climate I would go with an xmid. It won't sag in heavy rain and won't absorb water if you have to pack it up slightly wet.

I’ll second the lanshan. Surprisingly good build quality for the price. I like that the 1p only requires one trekking pole to set up. I have the pro version and it’s like 650g or something… Otherwise I’d also absolutely recommend the X-Mid. Probably the best overall tent on the market and reasonably priced

3fUL lanshan if he uses trekking poles, or naturehike cloud up for a freestanding tent. if he wants to hammock: onewind aerie hammock and 12' onewind winter tarp package. for both he needs insulation underneath him and on top of him. a sleeping bag is not enough.

That's what I got. Should be here this week. The Lanshan is the model from 3f UL but it needs trekking poles

Mongar 2 UL will be the best freestanding tent on your list It's a toss-up between the x mid and the 3ful. Depends on if you want the top top quality or saving money. 3f UL isn't bad it just isn't the x mid.  All these UL options are fragile, don't forget. UL great needs to be treated carefully

Get a lanshan :) I have one and it is amazing

I don't know how any of those name-brand tents made it into a "budget" list. You may be able to find older models of the BA tents on clearance right now, in which case they do actually approach "budget" status. From those, I would choose the Copper Spur for livability, but everyone's different. If you are open to trekking pole tents, look at the Lanshan tents. Lightweight, proven and actually a budget friendly option. Even some of the Amazon knockoffs can be okay for the price (and I'm not one to usually utter that sentence) - I have a $100 knockoff from a nothing brand on Amazon that I've actually gotten so much more than my money's worth out of over the years. Weighs a kilo. It's a gamble, though. With big brands at least you get warranty support.

The tent is too big for me. I don’t mind the internal space (but it is more than I need) but the footprint is huge and tough to stake out in the PNW. Length is great for my height but it is really wide. I’m 5’10”. Also the tent just doesn’t seem to pitch as easily as my Lanshan. If I have tons of space, pitching isn’t bad, but often I’m compressed in a smaller area, or I target an smaller area because it is flatter and getting a good pitch is hard due to the massive footprint. I really don’t like the rainbow zipper. Have to unzip a big length of it to get out. The tent acts as a bug trap at the top outside the mesh. So having to open the mesh and it falls down means bugs in your tent. Also it’s just tough to get out of unless you unzip the rainbow like 90% or more. I liked my Lanshans zipper better where you can unzip and the mesh hangs down keeping bugs out while you stick your feet out and put your shoes on. Also the rainbow zipper is oddly low for how tall this tent is, I think they just copy-pasted the rainbow dimensions from the duplex. When getting out I oftentimes snag my back on the top of the rainbow zipper. There is so much extra mesh above it, they could have made it higher up leading to a bigger door. I don’t like the trekking pole extension. I am always paranoid I will lose it and bringing more stuff like that runs counter to UL philosophy. It also makes pitching the tent more difficult because it is spring loaded so you have to keep the pole under a lot of tension while staking out the tent. Last, the vestibule doors are a PITA to latch together. The hook is far away from the tent zipper (due to the size of the tent) so it is a reach to do and the tent is usually quite tensioned out making pulling a door to the latch harder. There are a ton of things I like about this tent but these are the things that have really stood out to me.

The Lanshan has the guy line for the doors connected with the guy lone for the top of the pole, so the doors are less 'pointed down'.

If you use trekking poles, it’s hard to beat a 3F UL Gear Lanshan. Still relatively reasonable cost and very lightweight for the money. If pitched right, they take on just about any weather.