Big Agnes - Copper Spur 2 Platinum

I agree, I don’t think a post about freestanding tents belongs on this subreddit at all. I have BA Copper Spur 2 and I would never recommend it for UL. I’m looking to upgrading to a DCF trekking pole tent soon myself.

I have a Big Agnes. Love the tent and love the brand.

I have a copper spur 2 person that I’ve taken both my kids in on separate occasions. I didn’t want anything too fragile so stayed away from the platinum models. I’ve since picked up a xmid 1p and obviously use that for solo outings. We are now at the point where we need two 2p shelters and I’m looking to add a xmid 2p+ at some point. We have a 4 person big Agnes tent but it’s a bit heavy and 4 people in a 4 person tent is a little rough when they get older. The best part of the copper spur is pairing it with a two person pad and two person quilt. The entire floor becomes a bed and is very comfortable. The two person quilt keeps the jimmy legs in without having to carry two sleeping bags, so for the person carrying it saves a good bit of weight. If I had to start over I’d probably make the same decisions. A freestanding tent is a bit easier if you aren’t used to trekking pole tents. My first outing with my xmid was on hard packed ground in the desert where it was really difficult to get stakes in the ground. The tent blew over during a thunderstorm that evening. If I were going on the same trip again I’d probably just take the copper spur. So for me it was about having some flexibility and diversity of functions when building out my gear closet.

I did some further digging, and it looks like Hyperbead is stretch resistant. I’m starting to think it might be a very similar fabric to OSMO which is no longer exclusive to Nemo, so I suspect Hyperbead might be a Nylon Poly blend as well and they aren’t disclosing that fact to seem more proprietary. Otherwise I’m not sure how they could get a 100% Nylon fabric to not sag. If that’s the case then the Dragonfly and Copper Spur are pretty much a toss up fabric wise. There’s one other feature that might sway you and that’s if you use a footprint. The Cooper spur has a traditional grommet design which allows for a fly first pitch when using a footprint. Nemo uses a Jake’s foot attachment so inner first pitch even with the footprint. I don’t use a footprint and prefer Jake’s foot attachments especially when setting up solo. I’m not a thru hiker though, and have never been forced to set up a tent while raining just before bed. I usually have the flexibility to wait out a shower before setting up, or setting it up in the rain and having enough time to dry it out before tossing in my gear.

Copper Spur for the win!

LOVE my BA Copper Spur 2p

Big Agnes, MSR, and Nemo are 3 of the best tent brands available. I ran the warranty desk for an outdoor gear company, and saw the least amount of warranty issues with those brands. They’re not inexpensive, but, you get what you pay for. I have a Big Agnes tent that’s at least 10 years old, we use it regularly and only have to hose the dirt off. It’s amazing. Nemo is awesome too, I know a lot of people with Nemo tents and they love them. I just got an MSR 3 person tent and absolutely love it. Definitely get a 2 person tent. The general rule is to take however many people will be sleeping in the tent, and add 1. So 1 person = 2 person tent, 2 ppl = 3 person tent and so on. A 2 person tent is more comfortable for having your gear inside the tent, changing your clothes, etc. If you don’t plan to go backpacking with it, I’d get a 3-4 person tent just for the space.

Go with the lighter of the two. I have a 1p Tiger Wall UL and it’s been my go to for the last 5 years for 90% of my trips thought the season where I am sleeping solo m. Love this tent. I’m 5,10 and I often wish it were longer. My pad hits the bottom of the tent when I’m all set up and my legs touch the bottom when I straighten them out. I can see why you’d be looking at the 2P. Added the Copper Spur 2p to my tents last year. It has a few other features. Great for trips where I need to share a tent and can split carrying it between two people. I’d go with the lightest version of the Tiger Wall you can afford.

After dealing with a warranty issue with Durston I would rather deal with Big Agnes

There’s a balance of not spending too much your first time and getting quality stuff that will last for years. The big 4 that will all last a long time A good backpack should be a priority as you will be carrying it on your hips (or shoulders if it isn’t sized right). Then tent/pad. Big Agnus Copper Spur seems to be at the top of most people’s list and while not cheap it isn’t crazy expensive. Great if you can find on sale. Get a 2 person even if going solo most of the time as you can have a roomier tent w your pack inside when solo or use as a 2P tent when you go w a friend Pads depend on if you are a back or side sleeper (need a thicker pad like Sea 2 Summit or Nemo). Tons of choices and some budget options. A sleeping bag is critical but can become your most expensive item. I would start with a $200-300 one if you can that has a ISO Limit rating in the 20s if you plan on 3 seasons at altitude. If not then one with and ISO Limit rating in the 30s. Down will be lighter and pack smalller but if on a budget a synthetic bag will likely be cheaper. Good news is your bag will probably last you 20 years. You can use it car camping, rustic cabin camping or backpacking. Water filter is an easy choice these days with a cheap but super dependable and quality Sawyer Squeeze. Lots of stove options. Not the lightest but I like the Jet Boil for its simplicity and speed of heating up water and that it has the pot as part of it. I don’t carry any other pot. Just a spoon and mug. Hiking poles if doing uneven terrain and or ups and downs Hiking shoes/boots is a whole other discussion. Most go with low top trail runners vs boots. A super useful web site is Halfway Anywhere. With one big caveat. These surveys are for longer through hikes where generally weight/quality is prioritized over cost. But you get to see a big list of what people used and their ratings. I have the below link set to the JMT (vs much longer AT or PCT) as the JMP is a little more geared toward typical [gear survey](https://www.halfwayanywhere.com/john-muir-trail-survey/) backpacking.

I picked up a sea to summit Telos 3 recently its a pretty awesome tent loaded with features. Runner up was a Big agnes copper spur Telos gave mely wife & I plenty of room for 2xl pads, and we could nearly stand up. It also felt much more durable than the BA, but this also means it was a tad bit heavier. It also has multiple setup options- half fly & a "hangout" mode.