Big Agnes - Copper Spur HV UL3 Long Tent: 3-Person 3-Season

Huh? How, though?  Im 6'7" and HV UL extended works great. Are you sure you were in the HV version? It has steeper end walls. 

Big Agnes Copper Spur UL 3-P, extra long version. It’s more of a backpacking tent but it’s long for sleeping.

The long version is barely long enough for me at 6 feet 5. I still touch the walls with head or feet occasionally. The bikepacking version is even shorter, so I decided against that.

If you will ever have your partner and dog in the tent at the same time I think that excludes most 2p tents I can think of. As another person commented previously, the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 has a long version, but if space is one of your foremost concerns you should just get the Copper Spur HV UL3 Long, which has an pretty staggering amount of headroom (47" / 119 cm). It does weigh 370 g more than the UL2, but in my opinion that is a pretty reasonable marginal weight penalty for a whopping 50% more floor area. Sticking with the freestanding tent theme, which is what I have focused most of my research on lately, you might want to consider the Slingfin Portal 3. Not too many reviews out there, but it is an exceptionally well-made tent (up there with the likes of Hilleberg in terms of quality). Mowser on youtube has an excellent video on the Portal 3 that influenced my decision to purchase it. It'll be considerably more stormworthy than the Copper Spur line (important in Scottish and Scandinavian alpine). I can go into more detail about some of the advantages to the Portal if you are interested. One caveat is that neither of these tents are UL.

The Copper Spur UL 3 Hotel is really livable and enjoyable to use. The massive Hotel vestibule makes a big difference practically and psychologically. For wind, i add more guylines and stakes and it has been OK. Including those extras it's 2.1kg.

Yes, how a tent feels is very hard to gauge on paper. I often spurn the CS Hotel because you could go lighter (and for that I have the wonderful Tarptent Dipole-2-dw). But... I keep going back to the CS Hotel because of that fabulous vestibule. You can sit on a chair inside it. You can scatter your gear around. You can leave it open as a welcoming large entrance.

I have the Big Agnes Copper Spur UL 3 person Long for car camping or shorter backpacking trips. We also use a TarpTent Double Rainbow for backpacking which can be either semi or freestanding.

The Double Ranbow LI I like a lot for a 1 person tent. But it is tight for 2 people. Other than that it sets up easy - far easier than an XMID 1 or 2 which I sold off or the Copper Spur. I use it as a semi freestanding tent staked out and the pitch is always nice and tight regardless of terrain. It is also pretty good in winds when staked out. [https://youtu.be/BDzdINnIeDI?si=JocJNlLtba7dU7ud](https://youtu.be/BDzdINnIeDI?si=JocJNlLtba7dU7ud)

Just ordered the copper spur hv ul3 long!

I agree. I have that tent. It's solid, roomy, and easy to set up. Beautifully designed. But do use a footprint.

Almost hesitate to say, but BA are doing -50% on their current (going out) line up. Just bought a CS UL3 long for half price this week They might not have all models on sale, of course

'Best' is relative. Do you have any criteria for which to pick a tent? 1. How about budget? Are you cool with spending $500? more? 2. Do you care if the tent is free standing or requires pegs to stay up? Do you hike with trekking poles? 3. What about vestibule space? Is it important for you to have a area outside the door to put shoes/gear? Do you want 1 or 2? 4. Is weight important? I know this is backpacking - but some people really care about dropping a few ounces are are willing to pay to get ultralight materials. 5. Have you considered a pyramid style tent? Or looking for a more traditional style? What about hammock camping (I assume no - but just throwing out ideas)? 6. Are you shopping in the USA or abroad? 7. Where do you generally camp? What are the typical weather conditions like there? Lots of beach trips, alpine hikes, thick forest? Heavy rain/wind, snow, or heat? 8. What do you like about your current tent? What do you dislike? You don't have to answer all of these questions directly. I'm just trying to give you some ideas to consider when tent shopping. Different people / places will have different definitions of best. If I had to make a blanket recommendation, knowing you've already used Big Agnes tents (assumingly happily), I'd say: * [https://www.bigagnes.com/collections/tents/products/copper-spur-hv-ul3](https://www.bigagnes.com/collections/tents/products/copper-spur-hv-ul3) I have it for me and GF (and dog at the time when we bought it). Works great. There are cheaper, lighter, more durable tents - but this one hits a sweet spot for me and is very popular all around.

I have the 3-person. It is amazing. A little heavy on solo trips but overall, it's a fantastic tent. For half price, it's probably one of the best deals on a tent you'll ever see. Just get some patches in case you get tears. It's not super rugged being so lightweight.

1. Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3 Weight: ~3 lbs 14 oz (trail weight) Price: ~$650 Pros: Freestanding with excellent interior volume Two doors and two large vestibules High-quality materials and DAC poles Good for long trips and moderate weather Cons: Expensive Thin fabric requires some care 2. MSR Hubba Hubba 3P Weight: ~3 lbs 12 oz (trail weight) Price: ~$600 Pros: Excellent balance of weight and durability Symmetrical design, spacious for two or cozy for three Great ventilation and weather resistance Cons: Slightly tighter vestibule space than Copper Spur

Comparing the Copper Spur HV UL2 to UL3: a 3 person tent will be about 25% heavier (12 oz, 35g), only marginally more expensive, and the extra space will help with keeping your bags inside. To me, the worst part is the extra weight, and the extra size of the tent would prevent it from fitting in the side pouch on my bag. But if you're strapping it underneath anyway, and you're not weight-constrained, maybe it's fine. I went with the UL2 because I think it's fine to leave my pack in the vestibule of the tent, only taking the essentials inside. You can possibly find space for it near your feet if you're not big people. After all, when you're at camp, all the bulky things aren't in the pack any more! I like my tent, but there are lots of good brands out there. You might find a better deal online, but check your local outdoor store to get a feel for how big/heavy they are. If feasible, buy it there, too! I liked my REI Half Dome tent but it was so much larger and heavier than the Copper Spur, and I'm glad I replaced it.

Though the Copper Spur is truly free standing. I do like the features of the Rainbow DW though. The symmetrical shape and size is more usable than people realize.

Copper Spur HV UL3 Long is 8foot. Marmot's Limelight is 88". You might have to lay diagonally in shorter tents.

I have the Cooper Spur UL3 and it’s a great tent for 2 or 3 people. It’s not much more weight for the 3, so I’d go that route if you ever may want 3, or a spacious 2.  That being said, I also have the Durston X-Mid Pro 1.. this thing is the best tent I’ve ever owned. You could get the 2p, and even the non pro model will be fantastic.  Both tents meet your criteria! 

That is one of the best free standing, backpacking tents you can get without spending a fortune. I have the 1P and the 3P versions of that tent. They are my favorite tents (I have several others, too many if you ask my wife). The 2P tent will not fit two 25 inch sleeping pads, which is why I got the 3P tent for me and my wife. That price is a steal. You almost never see that tent at 50% off.

Lots of options here. If it has to be free standing and you want something UL then I would probably recommend getting a 3P UL tent such as the Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL 3p or the Marmot Super Alloy 3p. These can fit two 25" wide sleeping pads side by side and will have a small amount of room for gear. Most 2p UL tents have tapered floors and cannot comfortably fit two backpackers side by side. If you want a bit more room you can go to the Marmot Tungsten UL 3p, Sierra Designs Meteor Lite 3p or the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL 3p. Weights on these tents are a little bit over 4 lbs If you want a budget option the Naturehike CloudUP 3p would be a good choice for 2 backpackers if the single door was not an issue. If you want more room, but it will be heavier, the Mongar 2p is also a good choice, I would avoid the REI half dome due to weight and REI's sub-par 1 year warranty. MSR, Marmot etc have a lifetime warranty and can get you parts after the sale. REI does not repair gear and does not sell parts for tents. A trekking pole shelter, like the Durston X-Mid 2p, isn't that hard to setup with 4 stakes and two trekking poles. I can get mine up in 2 or 3 minutes. Trekking pole tents will save allot of pack size and will cut weight; which are important for backpacking. You will more than likely be carrying trekking poles anyway and this will cut weight in your pack on the trail. Trekking pole shelters have much smaller pack sizes (usually) than free standing tents. Most UL backpacking tents are going to be 20 denier fabrics. This is perfectly fine for most conditions. You can usually buy a footprint from the manufacturer to protect the floor from dirt, rocks and sticks. Otherwise if you want to increase durability you are going to increase weight and pack size. To protect any tent better you should be using high quality tent stakes and should be guying out the tent properly in crappy or windy weather. For example The Durston X-Mid 2p is a 20 denier 2 person tent that can fit two 25" wide sleeping pads side by side and weighs around 37oz all in for a MSRP of $279. The Sierra Designs Meteor Lite 3p also has 20 denier fabrics, is a free standing tent and weighs 4lbs 10oz and costs a MSRP of $499 and a sale price of $399. The standard Meteor 3p can be had for a much cheaper for $185 right now, weighs 5lbs 6oz and uses 68D fabrics for the tent fly. The Marmot Super Alloy 3p weights a bit over 3lbs, is on sale for $280 through SunnySports, has 20 denier fabrics. At the premium end the trekking pole shelter will be a better value for the money i you don't mind practicing pitching the tent a couple times in your back yard. YMMV and everyone has personal preferences. I own the mesh and solid versions of the Durston X-Mid 2p and the Sierra Designs Meteor Lite 3p. I used to own the Meteor 4p. I have used the Super Alloy, Copper Spur HV UL, Naurehike Mongar and Cloud UP and Marmot Tungsten (but not Tungsten UL) tents.

In your shoes I'd get a TarpTent Triple Rainbow DW (double wall). $499, weights 48 oz. Compare that to the admittedly great Big Agnes Copperspur UL3, which costs more, weights 68 oz, and has a square foot less floor area. This will fit your bags and each other inside the tent, with vestibule space if you want to keep anything outside. You can deploy the fly in such a way to allow for sky viewing through the mesh in good weather. It is also made of Silpoly which doesn't sag as much as Silnylon when wet. Speaking of wet, keep the Rainbow's inner attached to the fly and pitch it all together if you get caught in the rain. I own BA Copper Spur UL2, UL3, Fly Creek UL2, and Tarptent Double Rainbow DW. If you were cool with your gear outside, I'd recommend the Double Rainbow DW which weights about 42 ozs and saves $90. The BA Copper Spur UL3 is a good one as well, but is heavy by comparison.

In your shoes I'd get a TarpTent Triple Rainbow DW (double wall). $499, weights 48 oz. Compare that to the admittedly great Big Agnes Copperspur UL3, which costs more, weights 68 oz, and has a square foot less floor area. This will fit your bags and each other inside the tent, with vestibule space if you want to keep anything outside. You can deploy the fly in such a way to allow for sky viewing through the mesh in good weather. It is also made of Silpoly which doesn't sag as much as Silnylon when wet. Speaking of wet, keep the Rainbow's inner attached to the fly and pitch it all together if you get caught in the rain. I own BA Copper Spur UL2, UL3, Fly Creek UL2, and Tarptent Double Rainbow DW. If you were cool with your gear outside, I'd recommend the Double Rainbow DW which weights about 42 ozs and saves $90. The BA Copper Spur UL3 is a good one as well, but is heavy by comparison.

I have the tarptent you are looking at, plus ba copper spur ul 2 and 3, plus a fly creek 2. The double rainbow dw is roughly the weight of the fly creek with superior capabilities to the copper spur 2.

Take a look at Big Agnes tents. Not sure if available in UK. My copper spur UL3 has done me 9 years in all sorts of conditions in US and Canada.

I'd go with the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL 3. If you're 6" and sometimes want to go camping with a dog too. Summer in Scotland is no joke so I wouldn't want to use a trekking pole tent. How do I know? 2 week trip to the Cairngorms in summer with a trekking pole tent.

I know you said you like 4-person tents, but I've been camping regularly in a Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3 (high volume ultralight 3-person) backpacking tent since last summer. It's roomy and light. I even used it during Hurricane Hilary last year. The rain fly and the footprint (that I bought separately) keep me dry. I have an extra new one for sale. DM me, if you're interested.

Car camping, where weight is not an issue, I’ve been using a 4 person Coleman pop-up tent. Goes up/breaks down in a couple minutes and at 5’8, happy I can stand up in it! For backpacking, the ultralight of choice is Big Agnes Copper Spur UL 3P feels incredibly roomy and strong at 3lbs, 8oz.

Be aware- the Copper Spur is tapered. The 2p cannot support two 25-in rectangular pads. I went for the 3p version and it’s great for two.

After one trip with another backpacker in a Copper Spur 2, I bought the 3 person size for two. I have had it seven years. I took it to Philmont, NM and all over Colorado. It handled wind and thunderstorms.

The 3p allows two of us to sort backpack items inside the tent during a storm. The 2p is too small for that. It is just enough for two 6 foot tall people to sleep. Yes the bottom is super thin. I always use a Gossamer Gear plastic tarp under the copper spur bottom. I could have bought the Big Agnes foot print.

I have a BA CS 3 person.  It's brilliant as a 2 person tent but I'd prob want a 4 person for 3 people depending upon how much time you might all be stuck in there.  The extra room is really worthwhile. That said it's easy to erect, good volume for its footprint and weight and also light.  

Yep.  It's my base camp palace for two and have even had my 40g dog in with us.  My only gripe is that the floor could be more robust.  I haven't punctured it but it seems flimsy.

If you want to save some weight, OP, you could probably go to the UL3. Just depends on your size and threshold for space. But the UL3 will add quite a bit of floor space for you (almost a 50% area increase from the Flash Air 2p) and still pack to around 3.5lbs on the trail.

Big Agnes. Our family of 3 takes the UL3 on trips. My daughter took a UL2 on the AT.

Most often these days I bring a bivy bag and just cowboy camp. I pack a tarp if there's a chance of precip. If it'll be on snow, when I'm shoveling out a flat platform I'll concurrently build a wind break. Depending on conditions I'll take either my Borah Cuben (0.3 lbs) or OR Alpine (1.2 lbs). When I go on climbs with friends or my wife we like the 3 person Cooper Spur. Despite the name it's just big enough for 2 IMHO. 3.8 lbs trail weight. If you do decide you want to start with a 4 season tent, I love my MSR Remote. It's a great balance between weight and weather protection. I think it would hold up any season, anywhere in the lower 48, though I don't think it would hold up on Denali (I wouldn't know - I've climbed on Denali, but minor low peaks, but not a summit attempt). It was a great upgrade from my REI Arete (which since sits unused - I need to pass it along). 7.1 lbs trail weight.

I can’t remember the model name, but I think their Copper Spur 3 person tent is the current equivalent. Their site lists it around $550. I’m always on a budget, so I found mine for $300 on EBay and got lucky. The original owner purchased the tent, never used it and sold it for discount.

It’s lighter to carry one tent than multiple and at the point I did this more one kid was too small to carry their own. also would have been too scared to sleep on their own. used a copper spur 3p with two kids. Bit of a squeeze these days I have a handmade tent similar to a soloplex and a The One. Could take both of them with oldest kid. With youngest probably still the copper spur.

I bought a Big Agnes Copper Spur 3-person this past summer. It packed down much smaller and was half the weight of my old REI Mutha Hubba. Had a few rainy nights and it was perfectly dry inside. And if you have trekking poles, you can create an awning with the door. It's not as light as some of the ultralight tents, but some of those really cut corners.

I recommend looking for a 2 or 3 person tent for the humans with a vestibule for the dogs and gear. We have the Big Agnes Copper Spur 3 person tent for the humans and the Hotel vestibule accessory for our dog.

Seconding that the Copper Spur is an awesome tent. I love how easy it is to set up and how it is essentially bomb proof. I use a 3 person version for trips with my wife and big dog. For solo trips, I think trying out one of the lighter trekking pole tents (you can use a substitute pole that is NOT a trekking pole too) is the way to go. There are tons of options nowadays so you can pretty much get whatever thing you want between a tarp and a full on tent.

Several Coleman tents, an old 4 person dome, a 6 person Evanston, and a 10 person Weather Master for car camping and Big Agnes 3 person Copper Spur. All have been great tents.

Coleman and Big Agnes have shown me excellent customer service. Coleman is fairly cheap but good, and for backpacking you’ll never really want a cheap tent per se, not when you’re out in the countryside.

Family of 3 and we won tickets to the Kerrville Folkmusic Festival. We had a Big Agnes Copper Spur and a Coleman 4 person dome, but we wanted to be able to stand and get dressed, as well as have room for an air mattress and a cot, though we ditched the air mattress for 2 more cots, so we got a Coleman Evanston 6. Since then we bought a Coleman Weathermaster 8 as it has two rooms, but honestly it’s just about the perfect size to have plenty of room to even bring in the folding chairs if we need, which then makes it a little crowded. For the two of you I’d think a 6 person should be just enough to stand as long as nobody’s over maybe 6’ or so. If it’s raining or too windy and cold you should be able to squeeze in a couple of chairs and be happier. The Evanston has a screened porch which has been handy a few times.

I have the XMid Pro 2 and backpack with one of our huskies almost every trip. Mika is 45lbs, Max is 50lbs. Just one dog and me fit easily with extra room for gear. Two people and one of our dogs would work but be tight. (replaced a Strat Li but below applies to both tents) To protect the floor, I bring a full size z-fold pad (generic z-lite). I cut it into two pieces - about 1/3 and 2/3rds. I place them together to put where the dog will be sleeping. I cut it into two pieces so that I can use the 2/3rd piece under my pad in the event I get cold. They can still use the 1/3rd. I lay a costco quilt over the top of the pad. The like to "dig" sometimes. Between the pad and quilt, it protects the floor long enough until I can tell them to stop. For just casual walking in and out of the tent, laying down etc, there would be no need to protect the floor. Kneeling on a sharp rock or stick would probably do more damage than a dog stepping on the floor. We also have a Big Agnes UL2 and UL3 we've used for people and dogs. Only damage to any of the tents (first time out in a brand new UL3) was when I walked away with the dog in the tent and she paw'd at the screen and ripped it. Luckily, she hit the pocket so it didn't affect the door.

Can’t go wrong with a Big Agnes and at that price I’d definitely scoop it up. Me personally I’d try to get a 3P. I just upgraded to a 3P from my REI half dome 2.5P tent that I’d used for over a decade. I wanted a little more room for me and my pup. Additionally I’m right at 6’ tall and I always struggled to keep my feet or head off the sidewalls when I was sleeping.

Ah darn, before I read the standing part I was going to recommend a Big Agnes tent. They’re really good for backpacking. I had the same 3-man tent go through two Philmont treks with one rip to the screen. The reason our crew used them was because they weigh a combined total of 3 pounds, so it only added 1 lb to each person’s pack. Philmont rented 5 lb, 2-man tents at the time. One of us had the tent and stakes, one had the poles and I had the rain fly inside a cooking pot in my bag. Sorry for the ramble, I miss Scouting

Car camping I'm bringing the Gazelle T4. Easy set up, easy tear down. Loads of room. Can stand up straight. Backpacking, I'm bringing the Big Agnes Copper Spur. Light, roomy, breathable.

Yup, Copper Spur rules 🤘

I’ve got several tents and the one in your picture is one of them. Blackmail 3P I think. I’ve also got the copper spur. The black tail is a tank. I only use it for trips where there’s support, like ragbrai. I use the copper spur for overnight/easier riding trips. For actual bike packing / serious miles, I go with an ultra lite HMG mid-1. The black tail is cool and giant, but it’s a big heavy load too.

even in cold dry conditions Id get ice in my bag.. and it's hard to change or get dressed when you can't sit up. Copper Spur FTW

I have the same two tents and I totally agree. I only keep my Copper Spur as a backup.

I love my Copper Spur!

They are great tents and you don’t have to use trekking poles for them. On the Copper Spur it’s optional. Otherwise it’s a normal vestibule.

The critical feature for use on tent platforms is to be completely free-standing. Not semi-freestanding,  not mostly free-standing. 100% free-standing. I would recommend a tent with its own poles rather than a trekking pole tent for platform use. Our Big Agnes Copper Spur has worked well. We've never tried to share a single platform with another tent, but since we are not going solo we have a tent large enough for the two of us. The Whites can be a tough place to camp because they are so heavily used.

The main tent that comes to mind as stronger, cheaper, and lighter that doesn't make large compromises to usability is the durston x-mid. And it still makes some compromises in that it isn't freestanding. For 3 season backpacking in Colorado/rocky mountain US the copper.spur is solid.

big agnes, copper spur. its only 3 season but i've used it in light snow. also doesnt way a tone

I love my copper spur! It’s very similar to the dragonfly.

I use a free standing because I normally need my hands free for kiddos (or even when I camp with the Boy Scouts) so no poles I like my BA copper spur

Tiger wall is semi free standing IIRC. Not sure if that matters to you, but worth noting. I have the copper spur and it's incredible. None of these are bad options though

Through the PCT and CDT I’ve had a Big Agnes copper spur, Zpack duplex, Tarptent Notch Li and a Durston Xmid Pro in search of the perfect tent. Xmid pro was my favorite. I recommend the dyneema bathtub on it.

Me too. I’m 6’1, 180, and it is just right. I do have the hotel fly, so my pack can sleep outside; it would be pretty cramped if I had to bring my 60L pack inside with me…

I bought one last year for individual use, since it was 55% off. It’s super light and good for summer conditions. Spacious for a single person. Pitched it on hard dirt and was fine. It’s flimsy and I wouldn’t trust it high up on a mountain with winds. For recent July Rainier summit, I used a BA Copper Spur.

Also thumbs up on copper spur. Have 1P - Long enough to my 6'5" frame and can sit up in it. Paks nicely onto bike. Pricey though

I second the big agnes copper spur

Tents— big Agnes copper spur/ hilleberg Get a 3 person if bringing 2 people Sleeping bags— western mountaineering Get a bag designed for colder than you plan. You can just unzip for a blanket. Sleeping pad— excellent options for fairly lightweight with minimal deflation issues. Check out big Agnes and Nemo. Flextail makes an inflater that I cannot say enough about. Camp chair— nice feature to have for comfort. I have tried a bunch, but for me, the big Agnes skyline sits just right for the size and weight. Tarp— this may be an overlooked option, but Cooke custom sewing makes a tarp that is absolutely second to none. I strung this 10x15 rascal over the firepit this spring in the BWCA and it withstood two days of 60 mph winds, hail, and driving rain while being completely leak free. 10/10 Have a headlamp or flashlight. If you leave your phone(recommended), you shouldn’t need a power bank at all. Probably a couple spare batteries. Trowel, toilet paper, saw, axe, lighter, compass, maps, depending on your location. Bug spray/ sunscreen/headnet/hat/ Fishing gear? Book? Paper, pen? Coffee—you don’t need to cook, but coffee or tea are nice sometimes. Consider a jetboil. Lightweight, but can make drinks or heat up water for freeze dried meals/ oatmeal. Pocket knife is handy Have a good time!

I am talking about the hornet Osmo…maybe not elite, not sure, returned it. I had cables and poles snap on me. After that I would never look at the half free standing style again. It’s trekking pole or free standing tents for me. The Durston X-Mid is a great tent. So is the Big Agnes copper spur. I have a 2 person for sale.not in your $400 budget though. Unless you are meaning American dollars

Agreed. Also wind direction and direction your tent was facing. That is huge failure and likely worth discussing with BA. My copper spur was and still is bomb proof.

Just spent 5 days in a friend's copper spur and it was great. Not too heavy between two people.

Yea copper spur is top dog here

I've had the Copper Spur for about five years and recommend it. The fabric is so thin that I was worried about durability at first, but it hasn't failed me yet. Not a lot of vestibule space, though. Just enough for your shoes. The shock cord inside the tent poles went loose on me about a year ago, but they were easy to replace.

I camp a lot in the whites. I hate camping on platforms or in areas with other people but when I do I use a big agnes. Seedhouse I believe. It's a tiny 2 person so it's a nice one person tent. Sort of semi freestanding so you don't have to go to much effort to secure it and once you are inside it isn't going anywhere. I have a few two person big agnes tents and they are all similar. Copper spur and something else.

Honestly, it's plenty big for 2 adults. Two 25" mats fit easily and head room by the poles is great. Not that bad on the low sides either. My main problem in the mountains has always been finding a big enough spot to put it. The footprint under the fly is huge for a two-person. Often have to get creative to get a stormworthy pitch. Getting the perfect pitch can be tricky, but getting one that's good enough isn't usually too hard. As far as other options, the tarptent triple rainbow might be worth a look as well. I Believe the double rainbow can accommodate two wide mattresses, but it gets narrow towards the top. I've personally preferred the triple over the big Agnes because it uses more durable fabric. I had a copper spur for two seasons and had to patch the floor multiple times.

My only note about CS- the floor is tapered, not square. So are you sharing it and what shape/size are your sleeping mats?

Second this, hard to beat the copper spur

"very, very heavy" is a bit of an exaggeration. The most popular options like Big Agnes Copper Spur or Nemo Dragonfly are 1.4-1.6 kg and would fold down at half the wind speed OP is asking for. If the Salewa can take the 90 km/h they claim, it is impressive. I know there are light strong tent options like the Tarptent Scarp 2 (once you add the crossing poles is a bit over 2 kg) or the Portal Slingfin (it mar be able to take strong winds too, 1.5 kg with the option of adding trekking poles for strength). And of course some even stronger from Hilleberg, but are not lighter. What options do you suggest for tents that can take 100 km/h and are much lighter? edit: for context, this is the description of a 100 km/h wind, a storm/whole gale, 10 on the beaufort scale *Seldom experienced inland; trees uprooted; considerable structural damage* [*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort\_scale#Modern\_scale*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale#Modern_scale)

Big Agnes Copper Spur. I’m 6’4 240 and I use the 3 man for backpacking with 1 other person and a dog and it’s great. The 2 man is a single or 1 person + 1 dog. If you’re going to use on a moto with any regularity get the bike packing one. It’s the same as the other except the poles are shorter and fit in panniers better.

Big agness copper spur is a great tent that has served me well. I like the looks of the durston x dome but haven’t tried one.

I don't know how any of those name-brand tents made it into a "budget" list. You may be able to find older models of the BA tents on clearance right now, in which case they do actually approach "budget" status. From those, I would choose the Copper Spur for livability, but everyone's different. If you are open to trekking pole tents, look at the Lanshan tents. Lightweight, proven and actually a budget friendly option. Even some of the Amazon knockoffs can be okay for the price (and I'm not one to usually utter that sentence) - I have a $100 knockoff from a nothing brand on Amazon that I've actually gotten so much more than my money's worth out of over the years. Weighs a kilo. It's a gamble, though. With big brands at least you get warranty support.

I have the copper spur and my brother has the dan durston xmid. The xmid is better. It has more room inside and it’s lighter

Big Agnes Copper Spur is my choice. And I’m a Mountain Hardware fan but for tents I swear by Big Agnes’s, seam sealed from the factory and always kept me safe from the rain. I also don’t see any guy-outs on the ends of the MK3, I can imagine that might lead to some poor ventilation and sticker living. The half-dome is basically a heavier copy of the copper spur so of the two options go with half dome.

I use a 3-person tent by myself. I use it for car camping, but the ultimate goal for that tent is to backpack and share with my son. So if I carry the weight it will be for 2 people. I have a Big Agnes Copper Spur.

Big Agnes Copper Spur. It's cozy for two people, but it's our go-to for hiking in warm weather. Biggest downside - polar day gets annoying fast if you don't have eye blinds

Used Big Agnes copper spur.

The Big Agnes Copper Spur is the best lightweight tent I’ve ever had by a country mile. It’s still better to stake it since the vestibule doors need to stay away from the body of the tent for full rain protection, but I’ve had that thing all over the most remote parts of the Colorado Rockies and it has always performed perfectly. I usually only bring two stakes for the vestibule doors on either side.

The Big Agnes Fly Creek uses the same material and was the highest rated tent on several of those Halfway Anywhere PCT surveys for a few years, it was my primary pre-UL tent and survives to this day like 8 years later as my loner, and it's the tent used by the professional guides at the local outdoor shop. It's plenty durably. The Copper Spur is similarly rated on those surveys. They're both covered by Big Agnes warranty. Yes, they're very durable. You would, however, save over a pound by switching to the TarpTent Hogback. When the Copper Creek isn't on sale, you'd also be saving literally hundreds of dollars with the Hogback, too ... which is nice.

I’ll also echo the big Agnes Copper Spur. If you don’t want the “bare floor” vestibule, add in their Bike Packing Footprint, which extends beyond the tent to provide flooring of the vestibule area. [https://www.bigagnes.com/collections/footprints/products/copper-spur-hv-ul3-bikepack-footprint](https://www.bigagnes.com/collections/footprints/products/copper-spur-hv-ul3-bikepack-footprint)

I have the Xmid2 (cheapest one) and it's SO easy and fits both me and my husband great. I actually picked up a Copper Spur for another trip where I was afraid my XMid would be too big and found it such a pain to set up compared to the XMid.

After months of research, I chose the BA Copper Spur and went up a size. The extra weight will mean zero, and the extra space will mean so much as you move through various conditions and needs.

The extra space allows you to bring all or most of your gear inside, with an area for boots/shoes etc. The tent is very well constructed and quite robust, with high-end materials. Construction quality has been much better than expected

I have and it managed pouring rain and high winds without issue. The key is workarounds with wind direction and staking

In my experience I’ve found the copper spur to be a very upright & tall tent, whenever there is high wind the tent does get blown over and flattened out. I rather take my old vango or lanshan in windy conditions to be honest. Copper spur is a great tent though literally my only issue with it.

What are you using it for? Backpacking with family? I have Durston and Big Agnes UL tents. Car camping? I have a couple of Coleman Sundomes. Backpacking solo? I have a tarp and hammock setup for some place and others I take my Durston. Depends on the availability of trees.