Copper Spur UL4

Summer/hot I use a big Agnes copper spur ul4 Fall/winter/early spring I use an old north face ve-25.

Big Agnes copper spur 4, my family uses the same and can fit 4 with room to spare.

Folks on r/GearTrade sell a lot of good stuff. You might want to look at 2 tents (as someone mentioned) one for scouts and one for the family. Big Agnes Copper Spur comes in a 4 person and is a super solid tent.

We have a 4 person big Agnes copper spur HV UL 4 with 2 adults and 2 kids. We also have 2 dyneema ultralight tents (x-mid). When we have to pay for a tent spot we take the 4. Otherwise we take the 2 man tents. The only ultralight 4 person tent i know is the hyperlite ultamid. We just simply can’t afford a dyneema 2 person and a dyneema 4 person tent or we would buy it. The 2+ x-mid is not big enough for 2 adults and a kid, look at the stratospire tarptent with the sidecar or another 3 man in their lineup if u want a 3 person tent. Or the Ultamid. the lighter you can go the better especially with kids because you are going to be carrying all their gear and maybe them too until they are old enough. You want to buy them the lightest gear and pack possible too when they can carry their gear or they and you are going to be miserable. 7 years old is about when they can carry all their gear if its ultralight not including any food or cooking gear except their snacks for the day. Also kids like to sleep in between the two parents. They feel safer. If you are scared you sleep heavy and your kid might wander off, sleep at the door and have them between you. That way you will wake up when they try to climb over you. Check out the AlpineEarth youtube channel for gear set ups for families with kids. https://youtube.com/@alpineearth?si=2_PSoGDs_5MeDCiT

This is the problem. The copper spur seems very susceptible to it for some reason. Both my 4p and 2p do this more than any other tent I've ever had. They're still my favorite tents though.

Copper spur 4 is what I take with my two kids. They used to be small, but they are now adult size. I'm glad I didn't go with the 3 person they would have been fine when they were smaller.

Yep, this. It’d be more practical to look at an REI Base Camp 6 or Nemo Aurora Highline 6 right now for frontcountry family trips. The kids aren’t old enough to do the CT yet, but even when they are something like a Nemo Dragonfly OSMO 3 or a Big Agnes Copper Spur 4 would be a good choice for OP and his sons. They can each help carry part of the tent.