Copper Spur UL4

Summer/hot I use a big Agnes copper spur ul4 Fall/winter/early spring I use an old north face ve-25.

Big Agnes copper spur 4, my family uses the same and can fit 4 with room to spare.

Folks on r/GearTrade sell a lot of good stuff. You might want to look at 2 tents (as someone mentioned) one for scouts and one for the family. Big Agnes Copper Spur comes in a 4 person and is a super solid tent.

This is the problem. The copper spur seems very susceptible to it for some reason. Both my 4p and 2p do this more than any other tent I've ever had. They're still my favorite tents though.

Copper spur 4 is what I take with my two kids. They used to be small, but they are now adult size. I'm glad I didn't go with the 3 person they would have been fine when they were smaller.

Yep, this. It’d be more practical to look at an REI Base Camp 6 or Nemo Aurora Highline 6 right now for frontcountry family trips. The kids aren’t old enough to do the CT yet, but even when they are something like a Nemo Dragonfly OSMO 3 or a Big Agnes Copper Spur 4 would be a good choice for OP and his sons. They can each help carry part of the tent.

Another vote for the BA Copper Spur UL line!! We have the 2 person and now as a family of 3 plus two mini Aussies we have the 4P. Love these tents, so spacious!!