Big Agnes - Tiger Wall UL2

Try the REI re/supply. I got a Big Agnes tent that retails for $499 for $134. Also, REI sale is coming up in a few weeks and there will probably be a good deal on their own brand tents and others.

I bought a Big Agnes UL2 Tiger Wall for $134 at the REI resupply section. If there's a store near you it might be worth checking that out regularly.

I love the Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2! I don’t agree you need a 3p for 2 people though. I’ve had two in mine many times. It’s just tight and your bags have to go outside. If you want more room though, yeah the 3p bc the 2p is tiiiiight lol

We have the Tiger Wall UL-2 and it’s done really well in rainy conditions honestly. The only gripe I have about it is it’s not truly 100% freestanding. You have to stake out the two corners by the foot to open it up all the way and to attach the fly. It’s definitely roomy for one person and I’ve taken it solo before. That being said my Seedhouse SL-1 is a lot more compact and lighter so I usually take that when I go solo. Never messed with Hubba Hubba though so I can’t speak to those.

I used the BA Tiger Wall UL2 on my PCT. _Between the two?_...save the weight. Get the BA Tiger Wall UL2. You do not need a fully freestanding tent, and you can't really justify the weight penalty when you have so many other priorities. (Remember: You could carry an extra 200ml/≈6oz of water at _all times_ and be weight neutral. Or 3 more energy bars. That matters more than learning how to pitch a tent.) _Would I get it again?_...yes. The Tiger Wall UL2 is a proven design for a great tent. HOWEVER, knowing what I know now? I'd get a trekking pole supported tent and save even more weight. > _if there was a reason why people have been choosing the copper spur instead of the tiger wall._ Yes, the reason is usually that they are "packing their fears". Again, you absolutely do not "need_ a fully free standing tent. Save the weight. . . . . . . . . **Any other comment on the Tiger Wall UL2?** If you're hiking solo, it's got _plenty_ of space inside. It can fit two people snug, but with a single hiker you can lay out your kit however you like. It's just a really versatile size. There is also a "gear loft" type shelf for drying stuff out, etc. Also, the "fast fly" option is really nice, and it works as designed. I could deploy shelter from rain ins <2min. But again...all thing equal...I'd get a single-wall treking pole supported tent.

Yes, think about it a little more. Start lurking in r/ultralight as well to see both sides of the arguments. Nothing wrong with a double-wall tent, and I love mine. But the number of nights I camped with only my tent, but not the fly? Very, very few. Look into the "rule of 2" for your big-three items. It states that your target weight (not requirement, but target) is: * 2lbs for your sleep system * 2lbs for your shelter system * 2lbs for your pack/load-hauling system * ≈6lbs for all three together Again, it's a target, not a dictum. But keeping track of your base weight is one of the single most important metrics you can do. Think of it this way: If the single-wall trekking pole tents were not effective...why would they exist? And why would they command their price point and loyalty? You might get one, or not, but I'd hesitate to be prematurely dismissive. . . . . . . . . . _Any thoughts on the Durston Xmid1 or Xmid2_ They're proven, and terrific...and they take up a large footprint at the camp sight. That's really my only complaint. They're hard to fit if a campsight is crowded, but folks make it work every year. You kinda owe it to your self to look into "all the usual suspects" for single-wall trekking pole supported tents (Durston, Z-Pack, etc.) so you understand the trade-offs. i.e. Present-day lack of skill is NOT sufficient reason to not get a single-wall trekking pole supported tent. Because by night 10, you'll have the skills to pitch the tent. Choose your tent based upon its merits and your priorities.

There is no problem with ventilation in Tiger Wall since the inner tent is almost entirely mesh the amount of air coming through under the fly is plenty. But if you want a semi-freestanding tent I would rather recommend Mountain Hardwear Strato UL 2, it has more space. Not sure if you can find it for £300 though. Between the ones you consider X-mid is actually the champion in terms of space inside.

Op asked about none of that. I based my recommendation off of ops question. Full stop. You don’t need to answer questions people aren’t asking. Also don’t really agree with your negative points as they’re really mostly non issues. Campsite space is not a thing to worry about. It will almost never come up, especially on the pct. Space in pack also nothing. I used my tiger wall with a 40L pack easy, could for sure go smaller. Also sacrificing 2” in length for more overall space is a perfectly reasonable trade off. I genuinely do not believe that you saw no one using a 2p tents you just didn’t notice.

If it has to be between these two, tiger wall no contest. Copper spur is fine tent but the extra weight is pointless. I used my tiger wall for the azt and at, wouldn’t hesitate to take it on the pct. I used a fly creek for two pct thrus.

Hiked the PCT this year and to be honest it was about 50/50 of trekking pole tents vs semi-freestanding. I started with a Nemo Hornet which I ended up switching out due to zipper issues to the Tiger Wall UL2. Loved the Tiger Wall but the 2 person felt quite large for me. For sure a mansion. Here I am sure everyone will tell you that they are sooo heavy and to get a trekking pole tent. You can save some weight but saw several in busier areas struggle to find spots since they take up much more space. Big Durston fan as well but met a ton of people with zipper issues on trail. One of my favorite parts of a semi-freestanding is sleeping without the rain fly and seeing the stars and sky which you can do about 90% of the time on the PCT. No views in your trekking pole tents.

Just get the Copper Spur. It’s the gold standard for a reason. Use it for a few seasons and you’ll have enough experience to know exactly what you want out of your next tent. I have a 3-person Copper Hotel bike packing tent which has been amazing for 6 years and a BA Tiger Wall UL2 which I hate only because I know what I’m missing having not gotten a Copper Spur UL2 instead. My next tent will be a CS UL2.

I have the the standard yellow tigerwall ul2 and I LOVE IT I've use it on the jmt and colorado trail, when it's not super likely to have condensation I love having my rainfly off and feeling like I'm still outside. Plus the yellow mesh gives everything a little bit of a warm tone, which is lovely

you have to be a bit more careful quoting accurate weights, since it could make a difference. I believe X-Dome is indeed 2.7lbs or 2lbs 11oz. Plus the poles. MSR Freelight 2 is 2 lbs 5 oz. BA Tiger Wall UL2 is 2 lbs 3 oz. I would honestly go with Tiger Wall for your use. Don't use the footprint, just be somewhat mindful of your site selection.