Durston - X-Dome 2

Ill get bashed for suggesting it, but if the ordering wait isnt an issue (around a month) The X-Dome 2 from Durston is $480 and much lighter. I get not caring about if your ultralight, but if there are no clear downsides to going lighter, why not? Price is less then the hubba hubba and marginally more then the hornet, and living space is the same. (32sq ft for the Durston and MSR, 27.5 for the NEMO) So if price is the same, living space is the same, and it weighs much less, why not?

Not that the option is bad, just saying its better is bad. Just throw in abit of stats and reasoning and suddenly its alot more attractive

Recently I have finally received Durston X-Dome 2. Very happy with it: palace inside, 2 entances & vestibules, freestanding, total weight <1.5kg, light poly so no sag in a bigger rain, short very packable poles that fit nicely in a backpack / moto bag. There is an option for solid interior for windy weather.

I also enjoyed Mongar 2 as a not expensive but quite roomy tent for backpacking. Recently update to x-dome 2 and I enjoy it - even more spacious, still has 2 entraces & vestibules and is over 1kg lighter (I had mongar polyester 240 version).

ive got the x dome 2, its very nice and light, sea to sumit has a similar one (telos tr2), that is a bit heavier, aluminum poles, and has a more conventional floorlayout, they sell it in a bike packing kit too. durston also has short pole option, replaceable interiors for like 130-160. id recomend just getting the groundfly too or diy one, the floor is sorta thin but im used to cheaper/ older tents. with the way the durston sets up its a bit more involved going from no rain fly mode to rainfly mode, ther tr2 is a more traditional rainfly ontop of frame vs suspended. ill say the durston is one of the fastest tents ive put up and im normally a slowpoke

Buy once cry once. I did. Opted for the x dome 2. Glad I did, such a quality lightweight tent

A lot of good points about it’s gonna come down to him. As a big guy (6’6” and not skinny with very wide shoulders) it is very important for me to have head room when sitting up and being comfortable when laying down. I only backpack with my 2 person tent so I am looking for light 2ish pounds or less and roomy enough where I could fit 2 wide 25” sleeping pads although generally just room for me and my stuff to stretch out. I really like the xdome 2 and the packs triplex which I find to be just a large 2 person tent. The zpacks is not affordable at all and I don’t even own one I’ve only borrowed. The xdome I own but it is still around $500. The only budget friendly tents ive tried all lack in one way or another so it’s going to come down to his preference. Good luck to you!

This is what I carry: https://durstongear.com/products/x-dome-2-ultralight-tent 2.7 lbs Compact stowed Very fast pitch (can pitch fly and tent in one go after first pitch) Freestanding Works well with 2 and tall people Great vestibules Great company I switched from hubba hubba for many of these reasons

I have an X Mid Dome 2 freestander: https://durstongear.com/products/x-dome-2-ultralight-tent It’s much pricier at $470 but weighs only 2.7 pounds. One great feature is after the first time setup, you can keep the fly and tent connected and pitch it all at once quite easily. I had a Hubba Hubba 2 person (much heavier, a little bit cheaper) and used it a lot. I keep thinking about a 1 person or the X Mid Dome 1+ but in the end I keep coming back to loving the room to stretch out (esp nice if you have to hunker down in bad weather).

*Context: I am also currently thinking about 1P or modular 1-3P setup for MTB-bikepacking in mountains.* Trekking pole tents make little to no sense for bikers. When you bike, you don't carry trekking poles, so you need to take them or the universal poles, what denies the weight saving and introduces more problems when setting up on a hard / rocky or very sandy ground. (The same applies to tarp + bug bivy setups if you can't set it up using only the bike) While single wall tent will be more or less okay for a single person even in humid conditions, with two people inside you may have a hard time. Condensation will be a huge issue. If you know you won't have problems with staking the tent, you can look for some tunnel tents with a single arc pole. That will be the lightest configuration for given materials. As others said, most likely Durston XDome-2 will be a no-brainer for you. For heavier winds you may need to add a few more guylines and stakes to your set (or add more weight and take extra poles). With extra floor it should be a bit lighter than Hubba Hubba, I guesstimate it will be around 1500g with the ground cloth and around 1300g without it. Freelite, just like Dragonfly has issues with poor fly coverage in rain (and messed up entrance design). Cheaper but slightly heavier -- NH Star River 2 or Mongar. If you expect winds to be really strong in areas you plan to use it (which definitely goes beyond the tents discussed generally on this sub), Salewa Litetrek Pro may be a good compromise. Much lighter than Vango Hydra or some Hilleberg or Marabut tents, but still semigeodesic. *Late EDIT: I have checked and compared XDome 1 vs Hubba 1. If we take the same stakes no matter which tent, and we add missing guylines to the XDome, the final weight gets nearly equal. Magic of marketing :)*

From north of Europe here. After getting winds through an MSR tent once I woved to stay with local brands, of whom you have several.  Hilleberg, Fjellreven, Helsport and Barents Outdoor are all made for rough conditions. But not ultralight, even if lighter versions.  A few years ago we went above the arctic cirkle with a local brand dome tent, and a Durston Mid trekking tent. We got really strong gusts that hit the camp, and the local brand poles snapped straight off, while the Durston stood firm. I was really impressed.   Personally I prefer dome tents, as they are easy to move about, and can stand without any plugs if fair weather. Also can pitch anywhere, unlike those that rely on plugs.  If I was in the market I would try the Durston Dome now. The lay out off outer vs inner tent gives the greatest length and height on the market, by far. Get the 2p and you can lie even more diagonally inside. 

Durston dome! Apparently the 2p version can hold both you and your bike. I did not believe the hype at first, but got a mid 2p and it is impressive. Packs down real small, weighs nothing, smart usage of space inside, and all that room!

With our doublewall tents including the X-Dome the fly can be rolled back as much as you want. You can expose a corner or two (I show this in the pitching video) or the entire interior. So the X-Dome 2 can have any amount of ventilation from fully covered to 100% inner exposed. The regular X-Mid can do this too, but the singlewall Pro version has the fly and inner attached so the versatility is less.

The first run of the X-Dome 2 probably is going to sell out fairly fast, but it won't be 3 minutes. That was during peak covid. I expect it'll last at least a day. The X-Dome 1+ a few months ago was about 2 days. One nice thing with the trekking pole implementation on the X-Dome is that the poles aren't simply vertical supports (which helps with snow loads) but they are counter balanced (angled against each other) so they are more stable for side to side forces like high winds too, and they directly support the sidewalls from deflection. Our video explains how this helps more. For Europe taxes, most of the tax is VAT which applies on any tent (purchased locally or abroad) and the difference is mostly that you pay it separately when buying abroad instead of it being included in a higher price. Europe also has a 12% duty on tents, which is similar where it applies to most tents and the difference is usually just whether it is included in a higher price or charged separately.

The X-Dome 2 is silpoly (vs DCF) and doublewall (vs singlewall) and more spacious, so it won't be as light. The X-Dome 1+ is about the same weight, but obviously the 2P version will weigh more.

The ‘solid’ inners for our X-Mid have a panel of mesh (on the upper part of the doors) that can’t close, but with the X-Dome this mesh panel is accompanied by a second layer of solid material that can be closed to have it ‘full’ solid (no areas of exposed mesh). I don’t have a great photo of it, but [this shot](https://durstongear.com/cdn/shop/files/16_-_Durston_X-Dome_2_Ultraight_Tent_-_Solid_Inner_446.jpg?v=1757631867) shows it when the solid layer is shut behind the mesh

The short answer is that it is a combination of sewn on and zippers, and is included in the weight. The long answer is that the ‘flap’ of solid fabric is a triangle that is sewn along the bottom edge (permanently attached & part of the weight). So the bottom edge is ‘sealed’ such that any snow building up on the solid panel isn’t going to slide down into the tent. Then the other two sides are both sewn for the lowest 4-5” to further prevent wind blown snow from sneaking in, and this creates a pocket that the rest of the flap can be tucked into when it is open. Then above that, the side of the triangle along the main zipper has a zipper to zip shut. The zipper is not vertical, but angling over the flap, so it does a nice job of raising up the flap to cover the mesh. Operating the zipper is what closes the flap. As it does that, the final side near the top is pulled closed and sits shut with a bit of overlap. It is an overlap closure for the upper part of the ‘top’ side, such that the mesh is covered but the edge here is not ‘sealed’. We could’ve put another zipper here (or Velcro etc) but it’s at the top, sits shut nicely now, and is shielded by the fly. If it’s so windy it’s forcing snow through there, it’s probably not the right conditions for this tent anyways, but if a user wanted it would be easy to add a bit of velcro

Thanks for your interest. The X-Dome 2 is a new release so no customers have used it yet, but we have been testing it for about 3 season in the Canadian Rockies now. I think what stands out about it compared to other similar tents are that is more spacious, it pitches fly first for setup in the rain, the 100% polyester fabric is non-sag and fast dry, and the optional trekking pole supports enable it to be sturdier. Those are the main things, but also there are a lot of nice details. Don't hesitant to ask away if you have any questions.

FWIW, here is the X-Dome 2 footprint area relative to other popular 2P tents: X-Dome 2 = 47.7 sq ft Hubba Hubba 2 = 47.7 sq ft Copper Spur 2 = 45.8 sq ft So it is the same area as the Hubba and only 4% larger than the CS2. Here is a diagram that shows the shapes overlaid to scale: [https://imgur.com/7sufFYq.png](https://imgur.com/7sufFYq.png) The pole glue issue with the X-Dome 1+ was unfortunate. That was a slip by Easton that affected all the brands they work with and not something particular to the X-Dome, but we were glad to take it seriously and be the ones to push Easton to actually fix it and then send out improved poles. Aside from that we've seen good results with the X-Dome 1+. We've made a few other tweaks too, which the X-Dome 2 incorporates (e.g. color coded zipper pulls, easier to use pole tabs). So it is new and has more uncertainty, but I do think the X-Dome 1+ is working well and think we have the X-Dome 2 quite dialed in.

With the X-Dome 2 we are using thicker crossbar tubing (Carbon 6.3 instead of 3.9) so it is a longer crossbar for sure, but also about twice as strong. We've never seen breakage of the carbon tubing other than from (1) a pole glue issue where the insert slide out of position, or (2) an assembly error, but I agree that if someone winches down the end of a cross bar it could overstress it. That is a potential risk with any crossbar tent, but the crossbar is pretty strong and at least here users can add their trekking pole to prevent this. Any guyline off the crossbar tip won't be that effective until the trekking pole is added because until then it just bends the pole, whereas after the trekking pole is added it really pulls against something sturdy.

FWIW, we have been seeing good reliability on the X-Dome 2 poles for a while now. There were early issues with the Easton poles but after glue improvements and then the change to carbon inserts at the top, we have seen 100% reliability for a few months now.

Just got the X dome 2 and spent the week in Yosemite with 2 adults. It was great

The X dome 2 is really spacious but it has a huge footprint so you have a bit more limited option where to set it up

And if trekking poles are a big deal get the Durston Zflicks, or just buy the X-Dome 2p.

If you go with a Durston X-Dome 2p or X-Mid 2p that will fit two people easily if you are ok with putting the gear into vestibules. Outdoor Vitals, Naturehike and other brands also have tents that can fit two 25" wide pads. The X-mid 2p is under 2lbs and the x-dome 2p is under 3lbs. A real 2p tent can fit two 25" wide x 78" long sleeping pads in them. Many 2p backpacking tents have tapered floors (like the Big Agnes Tiger Wall, Nemo Dragonfly etc) are realistically are 1p tents some gear.

Marmot Tungsten, Naturehike Mongar 2p, Big Agnes Copper Spur, Durston X-Dome... Lots of great options out there. Get a tent with a mesh body, not a solid body, for summer. The Sundomes is a good tent but gets hot and doesn't air out as well as a higher grade shelter since it has mostly solid walls.

I have the Xdome 2. It’s a great summer tent. I wouldn’t really trust it in snow like I would my Slingfin. There I just saved you some money lol.

Look at Durston. I have an X-Mid 2P and an X-Dome 2P and love them both. You can pitch just the fly, just the inner (with the Stargazer kit for the reg X-Mid) or both. During cold weather I don’t usually bother with a mesh inner, no bugs or snakes out. Having said that, I got the X-Dome with the solid inner, because it does add warmth in cold weather, where a mesh inner really doesn’t. Either would be a solid choice, just depends on if you’re okay with a trekking pole tent, or would prefer freestanding.

I wouldn’t pay full price for the MSR Hubba Hubba LT2. I got one super cheap, set it up and ultimately sold it and got a Durston XMid 2. If you need freestanding, they also have the XDome 2.

A budget would be helpful. I’ll give you some recommendations in a range: Overall, I believe Durston tents represent the best all around value on the market. You could go X-Mid 2 if you are comfortable with a trekking pole tent or X-Dome if not. Check the specs but I believe the x-mid 2 is 52” wide so it can hold two wide pads. It is storm worthy, durable, has some nice features like the magnetic door toggles, etc. It is a premium quality tent at a lower price. My go to if solo (I have the x-mid 1). I think the X-Mid 2 is around $300. Unsure if the x-dome 2 is actually on the market yet but price should be around $400. EDIT: X-dome 2 is out and is $469. Big Agnes Copper spur is a mainstay that is widely used. It’s a nice blend of light and durable but it isn’t cheap. Nemo Hornet is another option similar to the Copper Spur. I think these are generally $400+ but are a very nice tent intended to stand up to regular use for a decade or more. The REI half dome is very popular and is a good value if you buy it on sale. There are better tents out there but this one is a good entry level option that is durable, just light enough to backpack, and won’t break your wallet. I have one and use it when freestanding is the best option. You can find one under $250 during REI sales. I’ve heard great things about Tarptent double rainbow. You can customize it a bit with the poles in carbon fiber or aluminum. It falls at a mid price point, $300-400, something like that. On the cheaper end, I’ve heard good things about the naturehike and featherstone tents but know little about them. I think they are around $150 or so IIRC.

Durston X-dome has treated me well

I second the Durston X dome, best bang for buck, exceptional quality and a mom and pop gear business. Xmid is great too but not sure you’re looking to get into trekking pole tents at this stage.

This is inaccurate. Ultralight does not mean making these sacrifices. There are well designed and poorly designed ultralight tents, though there are fewer and fewer poorly designed products given how few customers there are and the amount of research a typical consumer does. Modern fabrics have absurd strength for their weight. Modern ultralight tents can be as feature rich, weather resistant, well ventilated and roomy as a heavier tent. Compare the Xdome and Tarptent dipole with a heavier tent; there is no trade off other than cost (and in the case of the xdome, even that isn’t true).

That is a great overnighter, but is too big, heavy, and bulky for someone of your size to through-hike with. Look into a Durston--either an X-Mid 1 if you are comfortable using a trekking pole tent, or the new X-Dome if you prefer the simplicity of a freestanding tent. Each costs less than a couple of the chiropractor appointments that you will be able to avoid.

I’ve started camping often in NC for whitewater trips and it rains more often than not. My tents are UL backpacking (Durston XDome and BA Copper). The BA wets out too easily and I need more room for gear than the Durston provides. I’m looking for something more rugged and impervious to heavy downpours. Doesn’t matter how heavy since I’m car camping. I’m thinking of the Coleman Sundome 2 person bc of the bathtub floor, but else? I don’t have much experience car camping. TIA.

I also recommend Durston X-Dome. Though I have the X-Mid (consider this for max length), it’s a trekking pole tent.

The Durston x-dome would be perfect with a child that age

The x-dome is also very roomy inside, but doesn’t require the trekking poles, if that’s a deal-breaker.

A really warm underquilt for my hammock. Worth every penny when it's 25° out and I'm cozy.  My Durston 2p tent and a cozy 2 person sleeping pad allowed us to enjoy the wilderness with our baby until she was old enough for a hammock at 2.5/3. The Morrison baby sleeping bags are a must splurge for baby campers. 

I have a Stratospire 2 and my hiking buddy has the Durston 2P, and we've used both. The Stratospire is a palace, especially when you consider the huge vestibules. It is excellent if you have a dog, for instance, or plan to be inside the tent for longer periods of time. When my 2 boys were young, I fit my 25 inch pad and both of their 20-inch pads in the Stratospire no problem. Setup is fine. The Durston is the one we carry now on our trips. It's lighter and roomy enough for us since we don't stay in it very long.

Not sure that's the case at all, they only recently moved stock to the US due to tarrifs. I shipped my durston to Ireland and it came shipped from Canada via the US. Paid about 25% in vat and fews

No. I just upgraded from a 2 person North Face to a 2 person duration. Saved over 4 pounds. The Durston has tons more room, much simpler to set up, packs in about a third of the space and handle just fine in a thunderstorm and high winds. It’s better in every way so far.

I've used the X-Mid 1 for 4 years, 2000+ miles. It would be a good, light weight choice for under $300.

Of the two you've linked the Indie is the better tent - has more space and headroom. The Ranger is a coffin - might as well get a bivybag. Some other options: [Macpac Sololight](https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-sololight-1-person-tent-v3/121720.html?dwvar_121720_color=Citronelle%2FWoodbine&dwvar_121720_clearance=no) [Macpac Microlight](https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-microlight-1-person-tent/114084.html?dwvar_114084_color=Kiwi&dwvar_114084_clearance=no) [Macpac Duolight](https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-duolight-2-person-tent-v3/121721.html?dwvar_121721_color=Citronelle%2FWoodbine&dwvar_121721_clearance=no) On Aliexpress, search for 3F UL gear lanshan 1 pro or 2 pro [The Durston X-Mid 1 and 2 ](https://durstongear.com/pages/tents)are great tents but need trekking poles or sticks for for support. A 3mx3m square flat tarp is what I use when the sandflies/mosquitoes aren't bad.

Of the two you've linked the Indie is the better tent - has more space and headroom. The Ranger is a coffin - might as well get a bivybag. Some other options: [Macpac Sololight](https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-sololight-1-person-tent-v3/121720.html?dwvar_121720_color=Citronelle%2FWoodbine&dwvar_121720_clearance=no) [Macpac Microlight](https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-microlight-1-person-tent/114084.html?dwvar_114084_color=Kiwi&dwvar_114084_clearance=no) [Macpac Duolight](https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-duolight-2-person-tent-v3/121721.html?dwvar_121721_color=Citronelle%2FWoodbine&dwvar_121721_clearance=no) On Aliexpress, search for 3F UL gear lanshan 1 pro or 2 pro [The Durston X-Mid 1 and 2 ](https://durstongear.com/pages/tents)are great tents but need trekking poles or sticks for for support. A 3mx3m square flat tarp is what I use when the sandflies/mosquitoes aren't bad.

Thanks to everybody for all the suggestions , much appreciated ! I’ll be going with the Durston X-Mid as I already own a pair of trekking poles and I believe it best suits what I’m aiming for

Thanks for the variety , the durston and lunar solo really look like what I’m looking for in a tent I’ll look into them more