Budget would be good. I’d definitely recommend a 4 season but like how much do you want to spend? The hilleberg jannu is an amazing tent for anything Mother Nature can throw at you but it’s also around $2,500.
How many people you need to sleep mate?
Unless your talking extreme mountain top camping you could just go with something like the north face storm break 2. Comes in at under $500. Or a mont Moondance for a little extra. Msr elixir for around $600.
If you need it lighter for hiking you could go with Hyperlite Mountain Gear UltaMid 4.
Really 50km winds is pretty manageable for anything Mother Nature can throw at you any dome style tent that’s not so cheap rubbish. I myself use a hyperlight unbound 2 but again that was a little over a grand. I also use a durston x mid 2 in warmer weather, that’s around $500 and it’s probably my favorite tent of all of the ones I’ve accumulated over the years. 50k winds would be nothing for it but it may get a bit drafty inside. But it’s gotten more use than any tent I’ve ever owned! Light as shit and comfy!
Neither, I'd get a Hilleberg tent, from the red line (expedition rated) ... but I'm biased since I have one (Jannu) and have used on of their tents whenever I was out.... even in the army ... so unless you are locked to either of these.. id check them out.
Yes but crucially, as I pointed out, **only four season tents**. I’m not sure why you’re persisting in labouring this point when neither of your tents is a four season tent. Furthermore, as many have pointed out, the shape of the tent has nothing to do with any insulation properties, and even then, the insulation is so trivially small that it simply shouldn’t be a consideration in your choice of tent.
How about actually listening to what people are saying instead of constantly arguing? 🤷♀️
The shape of the tent has no bearing on its warmth; primarily you should be relying on your sleep system for warmth. True four season tents (eg Hilleberg Red and Black Label), regardless of shape, do add a few degrees to the interior, but this is due to the lack of catenary curves in the fly (ie the fly extends all the way to the ground) resulting in less ventilation, and a solid inner as opposed to mesh. I’ve actually measured the difference and found that my four season tents can be up to 5°C warmer inside than outside.
**A three season tent will not provide any warmth.** Sure, they may be warm (even uncomfortably so) when pitched on a sunny day, but that warmth will not be retained and will rapidly dissipate after sundown.
Ultimately whether you choose a tunnel or a dome is more a matter of practicalities. Tunnels are usually quicker to pitch (ideal for wet weather) and offer the best space to weight ratio. The downside is that they need to be pitched parallel to the wind for minimum flappiness, which can be a problem if the wind changes direction overnight. Domes, on the other hand, allow slightly more flexibility with altering pitch spot since you can usually erect the tent and then find its optimum placement before pegging down. This can be really handy when you’re expecting lumpy ground.
So, for me, the factors which determine which tent I’m going to take are the forecast and the expected terrain 🙂
While I don’t have experience with the specific tents you’re looking at, my advice would be to go with Hilleberg if price isn’t a differentiating factor. I’m sure either would work great for you - beautiful products from both companies.
I have a Slingfun Portal and I absolutely love it, but Hilleberg design is in their own class. I’ve spent probably 40-50 nights in a friend’s Hilleberg, vs. maybe 30 in my newer Slingfin, and the small details of the Hilleberg win the day. Slingfin’s design is top notch and they have great attention to detail, but Hilleberg takes the same care, attention, and no holds barred approach to quality but you know that every detail has been refined through an order of magnitude more cycles of use and abuse in absurd conditions. All the cool details that sound like a great idea on paper but don’t fully pan out in the real world have been weeded out by Hilleberg leaving an absurdly refined design.
A hardware product developer by trade, I can only aspire to that level of design quality.
Hilleberg is solid but damn those prices hurt. If you're not doing serious mountaineering the MSR Hubba series is way more reasonable and still built like a tank
People shit on hilleberg prices till they use a hilleberg in less than ideal weather. I’ll tolerate the price for the long life and ability to handle some nasty weather.
Most places in the states below tree line don’t need one though.
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