Hilleberg - Nallo 2

Before I got my Nallo, I really agonised over whether to get the GT or not, because that huge vestibule is amazing. In the end, I went for the non-GT version as I’m frequently on solo trips and just didn’t want to deal with the extra weight and bulk. But I do regret it sometimes though, especially on a trip a while back when I was stuck in the tent for two days of sideways Scottish rain on a week long trip on Arran. I do think the vestibule on the standard Nallo is still pretty roomy though, certainly enough for me to get out of my wet full body kayaking drysuit, which is not easy to do in my Allak 🙂

I have consulted with a couple of mountaineers and they gave me the following thoughts: Hillebergs are heavy but amazing tents. And the more specialized DCM tents have to be taken care of. They dont do expeditions with pyramid tents, but they are crazy and go to some extreme altitudes. I have bought the nallo 2 on the second hand market for $400 and I will mainly use it with another person. So the weight will be distributed evenly. For my solo winter expeditions I will buy a mid tent. Preferably also second hand or not too expensive since I am a student and have other pretty expensive hobbies. I was looking at the naturehike summiture (not super serious). I appreciate your reply, it is the most informative and concrete piece of advice yet. I will check out the tents you suggested, class starts soon XD

~~Winter camping can mean many things. The Nallo isn't a 4 season tent. Specifically, it isn't adapted to snow. Those cat curves on the lower perimeter of the fly are practically impossible to bury and the spindrift will flood the interior. You will regret using the Nallo in full on winter conditions (blown snow).~~ If you have a very limited budget and need one shelter to do it all, your best bet would be a mid with as many sides as you can get/are willing to carry (i.e., a rectangular pyramid -> a hexagonal mid -> an octagonal mid). Edit: My comments about the cat cut on the fly is due to confusion with the Anjan! My apologies for the confusion! FWIW, I've personally used and owned at different points 3 of what are now called the Black Label tents and 6 of the Red Label tents.

Highly recommend :) Mines a Nallo 2, and I can't recommend it enough (Not freestanding!). The Rols Roys of tents!

The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is a beast for UK winters, bit pricey but its bombproof in high winds and fits 2 people comfortably while still being under 2kg.

Actually, the Nallo is classified by Hilleberg as a "Red Label" tent which is their all-season category (not their Black Label which is expedition/winter), so you're right about it not being ideal for heavy snow loading.

For the Nallo 2 I would at least go for one that is less than 10 years old and below 500€. With proper care they last for more than 25 years. But you have to keep in mind that they can be bought up to 30% off on the official Hilleberg website (models with aesthetic flaw or returned ones. So the when the original price is 1155€ you can sometimes catch them for ≈800€, so 500€ is still a fairly high price for a used one with questionable quality (as compared to the hilleberg website). Did you have luck finding one?

Is it for one person or two? How are you defining 4 season? Are you expecting snow loading, or just stormy/cold conditions? The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is certainly a good tent. Have you also looked at the Soulo and Unna? The TarpTent Scarp 1 (with crossing poles) is more than big enough for one person with gear. The Scarp 2 feels less sturdy in strong winds. I have both. Have you looked at the Nortent Vern 1 (or 2)? I'm planning to buy one soon for winter camping.

Those fabrics start to get a weird smell over time that I hate. I’d say no unless you can set it up and check it out first.

The Nallo red label is absolutely considered a 4 season tent and I would not hesitate to use it in the winter under most conditions. Only the black label version would be better for extreme arctic conditions.

People shit on hilleberg prices till they use a hilleberg in less than ideal weather. I’ll tolerate the price for the long life and ability to handle some nasty weather. Most places in the states below tree line don’t need one though.