Hilleberg - Nallo 2

Highly recommend :) Mines a Nallo 2, and I can't recommend it enough (Not freestanding!). The Rols Roys of tents!

The trekking pole hilleberg tent suprised me as to how much wind it can take..! but a safer option would be the Nallo series, the worlds best tent hands down

Own a Hilleberg Nallo 2 (1995) and it has had its fare share of bad weather and is still in use. Only the groundsheet bathtub needed to be replaced because the coating went south after 20 years. If you don't do wintercamping with snow most Hilleberg, Fjallraven and Nortent tents are usable. Though be aware that the most basic Hilleberg tents lack the more advanced options like covers over the doors.

If you intentions are to camp a lot in the more extreme places and conditions get a Hilleberg. It is buy once and cry once experience. But after that, there is that very comfortable feeling that no matter the weather your tent can handle it. My Nallo 2 is from 1995, yes, it is 30 years old, but is mostly used during trekkings so hasn't seen much sun. I have been in storms with it where the whole camping was flooded and tents flattened. But even with a layer of 10 cm of water on the field I was dry inside. Slept very nice :-). Also a very strange feeling when you get up after a storm just to find out your tent is the only one still standing on the field with everyone in the toiletbuiling or their car. Also the support from Hilleberg is incredibly good. The tent needed 6 years ago a new groundsheet. The original coating was gone bad. Contacted them, send just the innertent it in and it got a new groundsheet fitted at the cost of 150 euro. Don't know how they done it, but you can't see that they replaced the groundsheet. And everything else is still original even the elastic used to suspend the inner tent is still original and in good condition. So yes, at the time it was a very expensive tent but it still is worth every penny.

I have an ancient Nallo 2. It isn't compareble to the new Nallo 2. It is more like the TFS Yoto Pro. Same poles and even better (thicker) fabric. It does weigh 2,5 kg so not very light. When I would need to replace it, I would get the Yoto Pro EU-version (extra long). https://tfstents.com/collections/red-lable/products/yoto-pro Very similar to my current Nallo 2 but lighter. But as the review shows, they are going to change some things so it is better to hang on if those are important for you. Me, I only would want the extended groundsheet. The rest isn't needed because I won't camp at those cold temperatures. For a handson review, in the Britsh weather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5rnouH-doE The same channel also has a side-by-side comparison of the Nallo and the Nammatj (which is more remisent of my Nallo 2). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae23SB4lxTA Edit: my Nallo 2 handles wind better. Simply because of the heavier fabric. It is less flappy like these ultra light tents. I do have strong bungy elastics at my guiyout points. This keeps the tent nice and tout without causing stress on the fabric.

Before I got my Nallo, I really agonised over whether to get the GT or not, because that huge vestibule is amazing. In the end, I went for the non-GT version as I’m frequently on solo trips and just didn’t want to deal with the extra weight and bulk. But I do regret it sometimes though, especially on a trip a while back when I was stuck in the tent for two days of sideways Scottish rain on a week long trip on Arran. I do think the vestibule on the standard Nallo is still pretty roomy though, certainly enough for me to get out of my wet full body kayaking drysuit, which is not easy to do in my Allak 🙂

The obvious choice is Hilleberg. The Nallo is a great tent; just pitch it so the vestibule faces into the wind and it’ll take pretty much any conditions that are actually hikeable in the UK. And I see that, with tedious inevitability, people are being downvoted for recommending expensive tents, despite the OP asking specifically about them.

I have consulted with a couple of mountaineers and they gave me the following thoughts: Hillebergs are heavy but amazing tents. And the more specialized DCM tents have to be taken care of. They dont do expeditions with pyramid tents, but they are crazy and go to some extreme altitudes. I have bought the nallo 2 on the second hand market for $400 and I will mainly use it with another person. So the weight will be distributed evenly. For my solo winter expeditions I will buy a mid tent. Preferably also second hand or not too expensive since I am a student and have other pretty expensive hobbies. I was looking at the naturehike summiture (not super serious). I appreciate your reply, it is the most informative and concrete piece of advice yet. I will check out the tents you suggested, class starts soon XD

~~Winter camping can mean many things. The Nallo isn't a 4 season tent. Specifically, it isn't adapted to snow. Those cat curves on the lower perimeter of the fly are practically impossible to bury and the spindrift will flood the interior. You will regret using the Nallo in full on winter conditions (blown snow).~~ If you have a very limited budget and need one shelter to do it all, your best bet would be a mid with as many sides as you can get/are willing to carry (i.e., a rectangular pyramid -> a hexagonal mid -> an octagonal mid). Edit: My comments about the cat cut on the fly is due to confusion with the Anjan! My apologies for the confusion! FWIW, I've personally used and owned at different points 3 of what are now called the Black Label tents and 6 of the Red Label tents.

The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is a beast for UK winters, bit pricey but its bombproof in high winds and fits 2 people comfortably while still being under 2kg.

Actually, the Nallo is classified by Hilleberg as a "Red Label" tent which is their all-season category (not their Black Label which is expedition/winter), so you're right about it not being ideal for heavy snow loading.

For the Nallo 2 I would at least go for one that is less than 10 years old and below 500€. With proper care they last for more than 25 years. But you have to keep in mind that they can be bought up to 30% off on the official Hilleberg website (models with aesthetic flaw or returned ones. So the when the original price is 1155€ you can sometimes catch them for ≈800€, so 500€ is still a fairly high price for a used one with questionable quality (as compared to the hilleberg website). Did you have luck finding one?

Is it for one person or two? How are you defining 4 season? Are you expecting snow loading, or just stormy/cold conditions? The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is certainly a good tent. Have you also looked at the Soulo and Unna? The TarpTent Scarp 1 (with crossing poles) is more than big enough for one person with gear. The Scarp 2 feels less sturdy in strong winds. I have both. Have you looked at the Nortent Vern 1 (or 2)? I'm planning to buy one soon for winter camping.

Those fabrics start to get a weird smell over time that I hate. I’d say no unless you can set it up and check it out first.

What you've described is a Hilleberg. I don't think any other tent beats a Hilleberg in terms of strength to weight. I went with the Nammatj over the Nallo, mainly because I prefer the ventilation on the Nammatj and I prefer the door placement, but it is heavier than the Nallo. You won't be disappointed with the Nallo, or any Hilleberg for that matter, they are awesome.