Hilleberg - Nallo 2 GT

I have a Nallo 2 GT thats probably 8 years old now, and I'm not planning on renewing it in any foreseeable future. If it's stored correctly, not overexposed to sunlight and the zippers are kept clean it could probably last a good lifetime. But, I think I paid close to 600$ on a black Friday deal back then, so it's good to see that I can get my money back if my tent needs change. Hilleberg is supposed to be one of the very best from what I've heard, but you're paying a premium. If you want a light 4 season tent with an excellent reputation it might be a good deal, but it might be worth looking around at other models from good but not premium tent makers if you don't need the ultimate

Think about the Nallo GT as well, it gives you oodles more space in the porch compared to the Nallo for little weight penalty. I love mine and have used it from windy and rainy Dartmoor to windy and snowy Norway.

> but sharing, in prolonged bad weather, for more than one night, I'd go for the 2+ Great point, to expand on this we found tent shape mattered a lot.  Wife and I have a Nallo 2 GT and a Nallo 3 which are tunnels like the F10's. Same shape but the GT has an extended vestibule, which can be folded back if necessary. We use the 2 GT for poor weather and multiple nights. The bed space is enough as some kit can be left in the vestibule with an extended groundsheet. Vestibule is nice and high for cooking. The 3 has more bedroom space but the vestibule is less ideal for cooking, and that's where we really notice when it's pouring down. It's a better summer tent when you want more space in the inner away from midgies.  We could manage with a Nallo 2 and the short vestibule, but when it's horrible outside it's really nice to have the head space. As you say the extra 400g is worth it for comfort.

I have consulted with a couple of mountaineers and they gave me the following thoughts: Hillebergs are heavy but amazing tents. And the more specialized DCM tents have to be taken care of. They dont do expeditions with pyramid tents, but they are crazy and go to some extreme altitudes. I have bought the nallo 2 on the second hand market for $400 and I will mainly use it with another person. So the weight will be distributed evenly. For my solo winter expeditions I will buy a mid tent. Preferably also second hand or not too expensive since I am a student and have other pretty expensive hobbies. I was looking at the naturehike summiture (not super serious). I appreciate your reply, it is the most informative and concrete piece of advice yet. I will check out the tents you suggested, class starts soon XD

~~Winter camping can mean many things. The Nallo isn't a 4 season tent. Specifically, it isn't adapted to snow. Those cat curves on the lower perimeter of the fly are practically impossible to bury and the spindrift will flood the interior. You will regret using the Nallo in full on winter conditions (blown snow).~~ If you have a very limited budget and need one shelter to do it all, your best bet would be a mid with as many sides as you can get/are willing to carry (i.e., a rectangular pyramid -> a hexagonal mid -> an octagonal mid). Edit: My comments about the cat cut on the fly is due to confusion with the Anjan! My apologies for the confusion! FWIW, I've personally used and owned at different points 3 of what are now called the Black Label tents and 6 of the Red Label tents.

The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is a beast for UK winters, bit pricey but its bombproof in high winds and fits 2 people comfortably while still being under 2kg.

Actually, the Nallo is classified by Hilleberg as a "Red Label" tent which is their all-season category (not their Black Label which is expedition/winter), so you're right about it not being ideal for heavy snow loading.

For the Nallo 2 I would at least go for one that is less than 10 years old and below 500€. With proper care they last for more than 25 years. But you have to keep in mind that they can be bought up to 30% off on the official Hilleberg website (models with aesthetic flaw or returned ones. So the when the original price is 1155€ you can sometimes catch them for ≈800€, so 500€ is still a fairly high price for a used one with questionable quality (as compared to the hilleberg website). Did you have luck finding one?

Own a Hilleberg Nallo 2 (1995) and it has had its fare share of bad weather and is still in use. Only the groundsheet bathtub needed to be replaced because the coating went south after 20 years. If you don't do wintercamping with snow most Hilleberg, Fjallraven and Nortent tents are usable. Though be aware that the most basic Hilleberg tents lack the more advanced options like covers over the doors.

If you intentions are to camp a lot in the more extreme places and conditions get a Hilleberg. It is buy once and cry once experience. But after that, there is that very comfortable feeling that no matter the weather your tent can handle it. My Nallo 2 is from 1995, yes, it is 30 years old, but is mostly used during trekkings so hasn't seen much sun. I have been in storms with it where the whole camping was flooded and tents flattened. But even with a layer of 10 cm of water on the field I was dry inside. Slept very nice :-). Also a very strange feeling when you get up after a storm just to find out your tent is the only one still standing on the field with everyone in the toiletbuiling or their car. Also the support from Hilleberg is incredibly good. The tent needed 6 years ago a new groundsheet. The original coating was gone bad. Contacted them, send just the innertent it in and it got a new groundsheet fitted at the cost of 150 euro. Don't know how they done it, but you can't see that they replaced the groundsheet. And everything else is still original even the elastic used to suspend the inner tent is still original and in good condition. So yes, at the time it was a very expensive tent but it still is worth every penny.

Is it for one person or two? How are you defining 4 season? Are you expecting snow loading, or just stormy/cold conditions? The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is certainly a good tent. Have you also looked at the Soulo and Unna? The TarpTent Scarp 1 (with crossing poles) is more than big enough for one person with gear. The Scarp 2 feels less sturdy in strong winds. I have both. Have you looked at the Nortent Vern 1 (or 2)? I'm planning to buy one soon for winter camping.

Those fabrics start to get a weird smell over time that I hate. I’d say no unless you can set it up and check it out first.