Caboose 4 / Caboose 4P

I originally bought the floor-less Kelty. Returned it and bought the Vevor you show. The Vevor has a floor, fits snugly over the back of my Mazda CX5, and zips closed ( using the screen, and, or external closure). The less expensive Vevor, suits my needs, plenty of room to maneuver, and I can close the car if I want.

I am talking about gale force winds not minor breezes. I have camped on the edge of the north rim of the Grand Canyon in the primitive area of the Grand Canyon Parashant National Monument and watched the wind "fold" my Kelty SUV tent (has no floor so acts like a sail) almost in half. I use my Kelty when I move frequently (and sleep in my car) rather than stay someplace for at least 3 nights. Eventually, in the middle of the night, I exited my bed in my car and shut my car door on some of the tent material to make sure it did not go over the rim into the Grand Canyon. One of the aluminum poles now has an additional bend in it but that has not adversely affected my use of the Kelty. I have experienced even greater winds in the Colob Canyon section of Zion National Park (2 weeks ago) but fortunately I had no tent set-up there. I was set up in the only campground open in the NP on the opposite side of Zion. So far, none of my tall tents have had to experience those high winds. I have many stakes and guy lines for my tents (shepherd hook, steel screw type and Kelty sand stakes that also hold fairly sizeable rocks). Eventually as I keep camping in the windy SW of the US, my regular tall tents (with floors) will be subjected to gale force winds. This coming June, I camp throughout New England so maybe I will experience those winds along the Maine coast. Since I will be on the move throughout New England and frequently staying in different friends houses, I may only bring my SUV tent and may not have the opportunity to test out my regular tall tents. The storage bags of both the Kelty and the regular tents are "large" so I have to choose one. I can set up both tents by myself. GearLab claims that my Nemo equipment tent requires 2 people to set up. Well, I have set it up repeatedly by myself and it gets easier every time I pitch it. Any tent is easier to set up with help but it is not required to have help to pitch the Nemo tent. I am 5'7" so maybe someone who is several inches shorter would struggle getting the rainfly over the top of the dome.

I have a Kelty brand. It can fit over your SUV side in addition to over the back. It has no floor and needs to be staked very well in multiple places if you use it where it is very windy because it will act like a sail in the wind. Don't buy the cheaper version with the fiberglass polls because they can break much easier than the aluminum poles in the more expensive version. If you just want to change clothes and use a collapsible, portable potty, a pop-up shower tent will take up less storage space in your vehicle. The bad thing about pop-ups is learning how to take them down for storage. You have to stake them down well in windy conditions just like any other tent. If you camp in the Southwest, you need sand stakes to fill with rocks and shepherd's hook stakes with nail like tips to stake down any type of tent due to rocky soil.

I have the Kelty Caboose. It’s called a 4 person tent, holds 2 cots. Set up up and take down is a little long, but it’s nice to be able to stand up in it. This picture is of it off the side of my truck. We tried it off of both sides and the back of the shell. I used it on this trip as a test. https://preview.redd.it/d4hshalbde8f1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b16b0b4af00ef48a81f6f2dc13dc87cc2378bfea [https://www.backcountry.com/b/kelty-caboose-4p?CMP\_SKU=KELO0BC&MER=0406&skid=KELO0BC-GRATAN-ONESIZ&mr:device=m&mr:adType=plaonline&utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=pla&utm\_campaign=20554329079\_\_p:G%7Cs:BC%7Cct:Shopping%7Cct2:pmax%7Cg:xx%7Cc1:Hike+Camp%7Cc2:xx%7Cb:xx%7Cmt:xx&utm\_content=&utm\_id=go\_cmp-20554329079\_adg-\_ad-\_\_dev-m\_ext-\_prd-KELO0BC-GRATAN-ONESIZ\_mca-7811\_sig-Cj0KCQjwsNnCBhDRARIsAEzia4BscCN7LunzoGTI69PftMzoX6viwDbvYdzgxVyJkuC6H\_3a4iZKqhcaApi1EALw\_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad\_source=1&gad\_campaignid=20550516431&gbraid=0AAAAAD\_Jw0ZkAf8H5kmTDWtkB6JWt6qyo&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsNnCBhDRARIsAEzia4BscCN7LunzoGTI69PftMzoX6viwDbvYdzgxVyJkuC6H\_3a4iZKqhcaApi1EALw\_wcB](https://www.backcountry.com/b/kelty-caboose-4p?CMP_SKU=KELO0BC&MER=0406&skid=KELO0BC-GRATAN-ONESIZ&mr:device=m&mr:adType=plaonline&utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=20554329079__p:G%7Cs:BC%7Cct:Shopping%7Cct2:pmax%7Cg:xx%7Cc1:Hike+Camp%7Cc2:xx%7Cb:xx%7Cmt:xx&utm_content=&utm_id=go_cmp-20554329079_adg-_ad-__dev-m_ext-_prd-KELO0BC-GRATAN-ONESIZ_mca-7811_sig-Cj0KCQjwsNnCBhDRARIsAEzia4BscCN7LunzoGTI69PftMzoX6viwDbvYdzgxVyJkuC6H_3a4iZKqhcaApi1EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20550516431&gbraid=0AAAAAD_Jw0ZkAf8H5kmTDWtkB6JWt6qyo&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsNnCBhDRARIsAEzia4BscCN7LunzoGTI69PftMzoX6viwDbvYdzgxVyJkuC6H_3a4iZKqhcaApi1EALw_wcB)

it fits my kelty 6 comfortably with space on the size. it was very tight with my kelty 4

Well if you want advice on a tent I could probably try to help you out! Just took a quick pass through the tent options and I’d recommend the core 4 person instant tent for $150 just because they’re already an established tent making brand with great reviews. I personally own a 4 person kelty tent and the quality is really good imo and they’re easy to setup. Some of the kelty tents have these sleeves that the bottom of the poles go into and it makes solo setup a breeze. My issue with instant tents like the one you mentioned, the gazelle t4, etc. is that they’re heavy and they don’t get very compact. But if you have both storage space and space in your vehicle go for it.