Marmot - Halo 4 Person Tent

Take a look at the [Marmot Halo 4p](https://www.campmor.com/collections/family-tents/products/marmot-halo-4-person-tent?variant=42105563381921) currently on sale at Campmor. We (wife and 7 y.o. son) have the 6p and love it. You wouldn't be able to stand up in the 4p but could in the 6p. If you search Reddit for Wawona reviews, you'll find negative marks for lacking a full length rain fly even though TNF lists it as a 3 season tent. Because of its short rainfly design and the way it just barely comes down past the windows, it can be a bit drafty.

Marmot Halo 4, 10/10. Have had one for 10 years and still going strong. So easy to set up, incredibly wind and rain proof, small enough to fit in a standard suitcase loaded with other camping gear in a checked bag. Roomy, you can stand. It's never ever let me down.

You will need a bigger budget For car camping you want a double walled shelter done style tent. Marmot Halo, Eureka Space Camp, MSR Habiscape will work. Get the manufacturer's footprint, additional guyline and upgrade your tent stakes to something more substantial. I recommend the Paria Outdoor Products tent stakes, specifically the Spiral Y beams and Snow and Sand stakes. For guylines I find Lawson Equipments offerings work well. If you plan on going out in more extreme conditions in the winter you realistically need a dedicated winter tent. Something like the Marmot Thor, Eddie Bauer Katabaic, Nemo Chogorri, Sierra Designs Convert, Black Diamond tents etc. These are smaller crawl in tents. They are lower to the ground and are way more aerodynamic than larger family style tents. The Big Agnes Mad House would be an example of a large shelter that can withstand some pretty terrible weather but it's not cheap.

u/dandurston had a good post recently on this topic. Retail brands like Marmot, Nemo, Big Agnes, MSR etc start selling new tents after the summer camping season and hiker season end. Usually in October to March time-frames. Retailers try to clearance and sell out all the old models to make room for new models. Black November is a great time to buy tents as they usually are heavily discounted. What are you looking for in a tent and how much is your budget? I love my Marmot Halo 6p and 4p tents.

I have done a review on the Halo 6p and 4p before. Awesome tent. https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingGear/s/1KRXWfvzGz It's not discontinued, it's just sold out about everywhere. I wouldn't pay full price on it at Campsaver, who seems to be the only one who has it in stock other than scalpers on eBay. The Eureka Space Camp 6p is also a great choice and is an absolute bargain right now at $165 on Amazon. Johnson Outdoors is discontinuing the brand, but it's a great tent. All large family camping tents do average in high winds. They are standing height and act like wind sails. This can be resolved by using plenty of aftermarket tent stakes and additional guyline. The manufacturer doesn't include enough in the box, so I recommend the Paria Spiral Y beams or MSR Groundhogs and Lawson Equipment Glowire or Ironwire. Also recommended always buy the footprint. Protects the tent floor and makes site cleanup easier.