Tungsten 4P

My girlfriend and I recently bought a marmot tungsten 4p tent and love it. It weighs around 9lbs which is the heaviest tent we would like to carry up there. The walls are pretty vertical and at 6ft tall I can stand up enough to change clothes. We used to use a Nemo aurora 3p which was fantastic and lightweight too, 6lbs ish, but we still felt a bit cramped in it, and I could not stand up in it, not even close. We definitely noticed it was harder to find a good tent pad going from 3p to 4p, but we like the space and would never bring anything up there that is bigger than a 4p tent. A lot of people, including some outfitters, recommend two 3p tents for 4 people before ever suggesting a 6p tent because it gets very hard to find a good spot to pitch it. Finding the that much flat ground in one chunk is almost impossible out there, and is almost always easier to find two flat spots for two smaller tents. If you plan on eventually getting a second tent anyways, you should really consider just going for two 3p tents that weigh 6-8 lbs each. Another plus is two 3p tents is more flexible for different group sizes, even if you go solo. If you get a 4p right now I love my marmot tungsten 4p. My only negative about it is not a ton of pockets inside, but that’s far from a dealbreaker. The marmot tungsten also is made in a 3person. Check it out! I personally would never bring a 6p tent up there. Good luck!!! Happy tent hunting

Go with a 4-person for two people (you + a 4 year old). A 6-person is overkill for your setup and harder to set up solo. The extra floor space sounds nice in theory but you'll just end up with a bigger tent that's heavier, takes longer to pitch, and catches more wind. The Marmot Tungsten 4P is solid at your budget. Good rain fly, freestanding, and one person can set it up in about 10 minutes. It handles northeast rain well. The vestibule gives you somewhere to stash muddy boots and gear without bringing it inside. The Mountainsmith Conifer 5 is decent but it's a cabin-style tent, which means vertical walls that act like sails in wind. For spring/fall in NY/PA/New England where you'll get storms rolling through, a dome or semi-dome design is going to be more stable. At $300 also look at the Kelty Wireless 4. Easy color-coded setup, good ventilation, and the stargazing fly is fun for a kid. Skip Coleman. You're not wrong there. The build quality just isn't comparable at any price point.

I have the 4p. Good quality/design. They aren't the lightest tents, but comparable with other stuff in their class and to go lighter is the next price point up, which can be significant. It seems like a decent buy.

I have the Tungsten 4p and I like it a lot. Can answer any questions you might have about that one. Haven’t used the Stormbreak

The fly is pretty heavy duty. It’s vented (on the 4p at least) but if it’s out there in the sun it’s gonna be uncomfortable inside. But it also has two doors opposite each other, you can leave the fly open on both sides and you should be good. And, of course, you can just remove the fly all together and now you’re just out there hanging in the breeze

The fly has these openings with a little bar that holds it open in such a way that rain can’t get in but air can. It’s on both sides next to the door. These tents are “double wall”, meaning there’s a mesh and then the fly and they are separate. Helps with airflow and condensation and all that. With the fly off, it’s just the mesh, so lots of airflow. https://preview.redd.it/djzcho4er92g1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18a53349df769622592a9735d72de84906f6f588

After a lot of research (and slow acceptance that I cannot afford the Big Agnes Copper Spur), I went for a Marmot Tungsten 4 for my 3-person family to bring canoe camping. This is replacing a 10-year-old Eureka that's served us well. Things I liked about the Marmot: it comes with a footprint in the bag, all the seams are taped, the inside space feels roomier than I was expecting from the square footage, the zippers feel rugged, and it's dead easy to put up. I'd be wary of an unknown brand - who's verifying the specs?

We originally had a Marmot 4 person dome tent. It was a good tent, but my husband and I are getting older and it was too hard to climb in and out of. We replaced the Marmot with a 6 person Nemo Aurora Highrise. We loved being able to stand up inside and having two vestibules. We use the back vestibule for our nighttime pee bucket--very convenient. It's still a bit difficult to enter and leave the tent. The door has a bathtub lip that wants to trip you up and there isn't really anything to grab to steady yourself for the step over. Once we decided we wanted to do more late fall and early spring camping, we added a White Duck 13' Regatta Bell and a Green Stove Hori 5 pellet stove. This combo is awesome, but it's going to be a LOT more than a beginner camper needs. The bell tent has a great entryway that unzips to the ground and there's a nice center pole to steady yourself when stepping in or out. It's very friendly for an older couple who only need to carry a heavy tent a few feet from the car. Plenty of headroom, easy to set up, comfortable as all get out, the only problem is finding a tent site large enough to handle the 4 meter diameter.

I have an old MEC Wanderer, but recently purchased a 4P Marmot and I feel like it’s a great canoe camping tent. Some brands out there are designed for arid and/or alpine environments and therefore do not meet the needs of canoeists very well. Ultralight is not that necessary for canoeing. The Marmot has a full durable fly and strong floor material and robust aluminum poles.