MSR - Hubba Hubba (Original)

My MSR Hubba Hubba was flattened in the Faroe Islands by wind gusts and it ruined my trip. Depending on where you're going I'd definitely sacrifice a bit of extra weight for wind resistance.

I've had my MSR Hubba for 8 years now, still absolutely perfect imo. Only had to replace the shock cord after my last trip a month ago. It's on the more expensive side but I'm very pleased about it.

Also, if you do happen to buy the MSR Hubba: buy the extra footprint aswell.

From the standpoint of flexibility - I have a 10F down quilt and a 40F synthetic quilt along with a 3.5R pad and the cheap 2R waffle pack thing from Walmart for when I go out in anything under 20F conditions. It is cost effective, warm, and I saved a bunch of money by having four pieces that mix/match to cover camping year round. Granted this is for Scouting and I'm normally walking in only a mile or two to get to our site, so weight isn't a huge deal, but the overall penalty isn't that big anyway. My tent is the previous version of the Hubba Hubba and it works beautifully in winter as well. Coldest trip so far is 6F with a couple inch accumulation overnight. I will say the warmest I've slept in these conditions is when my 16 year old decided to share my tent because he was too lazy to put up his own. I put the 40F quilt over top of both of our bags and it was nice.

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He didn’t say cheap he said affordable. From my experience it’s a bomber little tent. However, I did buy it a long time ago so not super tuned into what the price is now.

I used an MSR Hubba in Iceland 10 years ago and it absolutely could not handle the winds in a storm. The tent was flattened during gusts, and the cross bar was slapping me in the face while I was lying in my sleeping bag. I spent a couple of hours on my back using my legs to prop the tent up. The cross pole snapped a few days later, likely from the stress of the storm. That was on the Laugevegur, but I had very little wind while in Hornstrandir. It’s not like it’s windy all the time, but the winds can be extremely strong in Iceland. I heard of poles snapping on two Hubba Hubbas while in Iceland as well. Maybe, the MSR tents are stronger now, but I upgraded to a Hilleberg after that experience for trips to high latitudes. A pyramid tent would likely be better than the Hubba Hubba. No experience with specific tents, but my Yama Cirriform tarp, which is basically a pyramid pitch, survived a strong storm at treeline in the Wind River Range last summer.

My favourite is the MSR Hubba Hubba, I’m shocked by how windproof and solid this tent is, but it also deals with humidity much much better than any other tent I own. That’s why it’s the tent I use for very windy and rainy places like Scotland and Norway. It’s 1.8kg with a groundsheet and 10 stakes.

My MSR Hubba Hubba stood up to 2 months of coastal Patagonia conditions, but it was breezy. It blew flat a few times with some crazy gusts, but just sprang back up, never broke a pole or ripped. I put extra cord on the corners and piled rocks or dead man anchors instead of stakes. A solid wall 3 season tent probably would have been more comfortable. I'm not current on tents but Nemo used to have higher internal mesh sides on some of their tents. The Kunai looks good just from a quick look on the internet. Or a good larger tarp and bivy would have been a winning combo. Plenty of room to hang with the rain and a cozy place to sleep. I remember some knats but not a ton of bugs.

I like the Hubba Hubba dual door vestibule design. Can pee out the door without getting out of your sleeping bag.

You want a Big Agnes 3p bike pack tent. Bike pack means shorter poles which make it easier to pack on a bike, but heavier since there are more connections. Look at the Blacktail 3 Hotel bike pack, with the footprint it will be under $600. https://www.bigagnes.com/collections/bikepacking-tents/products/blacktail-3-hotel-bikepack You can save a few pounds by doubling the price and getting Copper Spur HV ul3 bike pack and the Copper Hotel UL3 rain fly https://www.bigagnes.com/collections/bikepacking-tents/products/copper-spur-hv-ul3-bikepack https://www.bigagnes.com/products/copper-hotel-hv-ul-3-rainfly Your going to be on a bike so you can spare a pound for the hotel rainfly, after the first day you spend all day in the tent during a summer thunderstorm you will owe me a beer for strong arming you into getting the big rain fly. It is clear to the rest of use you have never tried getting into a backpacking tent in a pouring rainstorm. For preference between the 2, we kayak and my wife and kids backpack. For backpacking they use 2p UL tents with standard flys. For kayaking we use UL 3P tents with some of the having hotel flys. On the bike I use a UL 2p for myself and either a hotel fly or just a very small generic fly over the door. Since I don’t backpack I always go 1P larger in tent size and add the door coverage fly. I buy off season so I can usually find a good deal on the UL version bike packs so I don’t own any blacktail models. But if I was in a pinch time wise I’d buy the blacktail, all Big Agnes gear is quality. If the prices seem crazy for the number of days or you looking for alternatives check on MSR. I have an set of MSR hubba-hubba tents that are as nice as the big Agnes. If you want to spend less money get the REI branded 3P tents. I bought REI tents when my son wanted to go backpacking with his friends, I had learned long ago about loaning out expensive gear to new guys, they are functional and on.y weigh slightly more than the UL brand names. No bikepack is also an issue.

Can’t go wrong with MSR tents. I have the elixir and the hubba hubba is highly rated

Hubba hubbas aren't particularly great once the wind gets up. The pole design just isn't up for it. If you want to go lighter than the HUbba Hubba , pretty much any good trekking pole tent if well pitched, will do better. That means well pitched tautly with decent long stakes fully in the ground And all guys deployed. Tarptent or Durston both do roomy two person shelters. But if you don't mind the weight, there are plenty of other tents that will do better than Hubba Hubba.

Can confirm that a Hubba Hubba works great for two! I've only used it in dry weather so I can't speak to weather performance. It's much more manageable than an Elixir 2, that tent is so heavy and takes up a lot of packing space.

My friend has an MSR hubba 2p which I find is tight for 2 people (especially in damp conditions) but is great for one and relatively light/compact.

I really love my Mormot Tungsten. It is a little heavier than some of the other Recs but is roomy and has withstood some intense PNW rain. It also comes in an ultra light version (I don’t think it’s actually ultralight, but it is lighter than the OG version). Don’t pay full price for it though, Marmot tents are on sale all the time. I don’t like the zipper geometry on the MSR elixir and hubba for heavy rain and damp/dew- it’s meant so you don’t have to reach so far out into the vestibule to open your fly, but i find it means the zipper can drip into your tent through the open door.

I have not tried the MSR habitube, but I have a msr hubba hubba and I freaken love it. I was camping during a thunderstorm, was absolutely poured on all night and everything stayed very dry.

If you want a free standing tent and like your MSR Hubba NX, you can’t go wrong with a copper spur. I own an MSR Hubba Hubba, Copper Spur HV UL1, and a Zpacks duplex. The MSR and copper spur are basically the same tent with a few minor differences: - copper spur is marginally lighter - msr has more metal clips so is likely more durable than some of the plastic clips on the copper spur (although I haven’t had any issues) - I prefer the interior pockets on the copper spur vs the msr and like that it’s two perpendicular zips per door instead of one big curved zip which is sometimes harder to open when not pitched perfectly taut.

I own a Zpacks duplex and it’s too bulky for me to fit on my front roll when I go bikepacking with my partner, we take the msr Hubba Hubba instead. Even though it’s way heavier it packs way smaller. For hiking I agree it matters less but when bikepacking on a small frame bike, volume matters way more since you are so limited by the clearance between your handlebars and front tire.

I don’t know why. I have a Marmot Limelight 4 and I used it for years. I did have one very bad camping experience but the tent was pretty low on the list of annoyances on that trip. But I am not typically an early riser and even sleeping in until 8am was…uncomfortable. It was just unpleasant. I had an MSR Hubba before that was dark green, and now I have an REI tent that is beige and green. It’s much better for waking up in and it blends in with the surroundings. Sleeping in a bit is not an issue anymore.

Both are single wall tents, which means condensation is a bit of a challenge to overcome. No amount of airflow will completely prevent condensation, many people in that type of weather usually have a door open if weather permits. I’d personally go for the Durston, because well… it’s a Durston, but the Dipole has 4 more sq. ft. For a third option, freestanding tents are always an option, and you can always split up the parts to make it lighter. I like the MSR hubba hubba because it’s close to 20oz per person, and it’s fairly spacious. Any double wall tents help with minimizing condensation, but might feel stuffier.

I do agree with this, but it also depends on the tent. If you get an MSR Hubba Hubba it can be easily big enough for 2 and your gear and sit outside the tent, but inside the fly. I love MSR tents and have been very happy with them.

Hubba tent has a single top tube, this design is made to be lightweight but it cannot withstand wind. You have to choose tents with another type of construction: half barrel designs (papa hubba type but smaller ones), two arches crossed two times designs (elexir type) or several arches forming a dome designs (3f ul Taiji and it's Hilleberg original).

Try to find one that is braced on four points or strong winds will be a problem. That one has the same layout as the msr hubba hubba and the one I was using got shredded in strong winds

Thanks for sharing. Don’t see a lot on Litefighter which in this day (of easy youtube reviews) it might be a little concerning, but the specs seem to be pretty nice, either way. Nowadays, I’m pretty fond of my HMG Ultamid 4, since it’s so light and versatile.. and I sure love to cook in the same place as I sleep. I have extensive experience with Bibler (Eldorado), TNF Westwind, and many of the venerable Moss Tents from 20-30 years ago (bought by MSR). Interestingly, one will often pay more $ on EBay for a good conditioned Moss tent than they were ever sold for when they first came out. They were the only manufacturer whose tent fly seams never required seam sealant due to the type of thread that they used. But based on what you’re looking at, Kuiu might have some good offerings to compare to as well as the top lines of all the major tent makers. My sense is that once one is committed to a certain level of quality and durability, most of the tent makers will have some tent model which should be “pretty good” at what your going to use it for. Yet I have a hunch that Hilleberg seems to be in their own category, but don’t have any personal experience to corroborate that. And I’m sure someone can still find one of those TNF/Eureka ECWT designs out there which appear to be as strong as a tent could get, I’d suspect.

I have a msr hubba hubba two person that I really like. The 1 person is just over two lbs. both treks that I’ve used it on was heavy rain. It leaked a little but I didn’t waterproof it enough for sure. I haven’t had it in crazy winds, but some heavy gusts and it’s felt comfy and sturdy.

Msr Hubba Hubba for 2 people is fantastic all around tbh. I've used it in 60-70mph winds in Scotland/lake district, dark green for discreet wild camping and roomy inside enough for 2 people to be comfortable and large vestibles both sides. More expensive but worth it imo and reasonably lightweight for the size.

I’ve seen to many guys in these courses get a four season tent and then have condensation. You need a three season tent. I love my hubba hubba. Would recommend the ultralight.

Hubba Hubba has been bomb proof in heavy wind for me

MSR makes a 1p that is under 2 lbs and the poles are super small. I have a MSR 2p now as I don't care about weight. I used the 1p on my first outing and it was very awesome. MSR Freelite https://cascadedesigns.com/products/freelite-1-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=3&_fid=c788cde60&_ss=c