Cloud Peak 2

I've only used the cloud peak of those 2 and really didn't get on with it, I know others use and have no issue with it. The 2 tents you have mentioned are very different to each other, what has drawn you to these 2 specifically? I'd suggest thinking about the features you really want, for £200 you have a hell of a lot of options new and used. Do you need space for 2 people or 1+gear? Inner or outer first? Trekking pole shelter or traditional poles? What style of shelter? (Tunnel, dome, mid etc) 1 big or 2 small vestibules? Front or side entry? Weight or durability focused? What sort of weather do you realistically want to camp in?

Cloud Peak 2 is another option, super light and spacious for the price

I bought the CP2 and it's a cracking tent BUT, I wish I went for the Lanshan 2(not the pro), especially since I carry trekking poles. There's nothing wrong with the CP2 but you can save so much space and weight in your pack and have a faster tent to put up/take down. The CP2 is a bit of a drag to put up after a hard day's hike, the flip side of this, is that it's a really nice, sturdy tent (from the budget end) to be in.. Especially after all the little mods you can carry out, heavier bungie cord, guy ropes etc. If anyone has a Lanshan 2 that wants a modded Cloud peak 2, hit me up for a swap 😂

*Ehhhh*...the Cloud Peak is "4 season" in the same utterly meaningless marketing way as my Lanshan has a "4 season inner", not the actual 4 season way.

My biggest tent in ideal budget is a Naturehike Cloud Peak 2, though they make quite a few different options in that price range. I wouldn't knowingly take it into high winds or plonk it on top of a massive hill but for the weight (2.4kg-ish), it's the biggest I have and with the most vestibule space. The zips can be a bit snaggy so you need to be careful with that, but that's the only major annoyance with it and is easily avoided if you know in advance. Plenty of reviews out there and videos of people using them in various different conditions - I guess maybe have a look at youtube and see if you see it being ok in the kind of places you'd want to be in the conditions you might experience. The "mat" (footprint) it comes with doesn't cover the vestibules but as I mentioned, easily worked around. If you don't want to splurge excessively on insulated inflatables, maybe start with some closed cell foam mats and upgrade later if you want to. They can be had very cheaply and can also be useful later on as additional insulation in combination with an inflatable if you want. Those really thick, uninsulated air ones are still uninsulated. That could become an issue if the temperature drops enough.

I have one and used it for 5 nights down in Devon last week. Though I've had it for ages, here are my thoughts from those nights: \+ The amount of space is excellent, both inside and in the vestibules. \+ Very decent price. \+ Feels reasonably sturdy, though it will have its limits. The design might be nicked from Hilleberg's Allak but that's where the similarity ends. The poles feel a little flimsy but I haven't had any problems with them. \+ Ventilation generally good - I only had one night with condensation, and that was a very damp night. \- The outer door zips can snag a lot unless you're really careful with them. When closing from the inside, reach out and properly attach the velcro at the bottom to help avoid this. It seems to be caused mostly by the fabric springing back in the way of the zip runner (or whatever it's called). \- 2.4kg is heavier than other options and the pack size also bigger, but still bear in mind the space advantage and you can always pack the poles separately, which really makes a difference when shoving everything in. \- If it is wet in the morning, it'll piss water into the vestibule and inner as you open the outer door. Shaking it first to get the rain off helps, but it still does it. Not a massive problem but a bit irritating. \- The 'hat' is a bit annoying and can be flappy. Winding the bungees around the poles helps a bit. \- The pegs are a bit small for my liking so I take others, but they're probably alright really unless it's really windy. Short version: Yes, I think it's a very good option. I have other tents but there's a reason I kept this one. I choose based on what I think the conditions will be like and how much other clobber I'll need to take.

Out of those, I only have a Cloud Peak. Not sure what level of wind it can put up with - I've never been caught out in it by anything too concerning, but I remember seeing a Summit or Nothing video where Trev got caught out in his and it survived. That was one of the reasons I chose it over the Taji, which I was also considering at the time. The pegs do seem a bit too dinky for windy conditions but perhaps I'm paranoid. Last time I used it I took a load of Alpkit Spikes instead of the stock pegs, but barely had a breeze. They're quite heavy so that was a bit of a waste of energy I suppose, but that's life, eh?

CloudUp2 isn't dome, I think you maybe mistaking it for the CloudPeak2 which is def more robust and is good for 3 seasons. You may find it very cheap 2nd hand if you are on specific selling groups on facebook, but new you should find for around £150 on Aliexpress

Hi, I can say that the CloudPeak 2 is an excellent value for money tent. Had it for couple of years and used it many times. It’s based on the shape of the Hilleberg Allak but at a fifth of the price. I’m always careful with the zips, avoid being heavy handed and it’ll be absolutely fine. Pros: good head room, two large vestibules and it’s free standing. Used mine last night in the Peaks and once I got it sorted I could move it around to get the best flat pitch before pegging in properly. I’ve reviewed it on my YT channel Hiking for Health if that’s of any use for you. https://youtu.be/Ym7eD6Wgxf4?si=bX2_4SR8odZOjcWp Get one, you’ll love it I’m sure.

The weight on the 210t tent on Amazon is wrong. The grey one is 20D and should be 1.8kg. The Mongar is a knock off of the MSR Hubba Hubba. I've been using a 3F UL Gear Hubba knockoff for several years now, in the PNW and it's a great tent. No problems with rain at all. I'm sure the Mongar is similar quality.

Definitely the 20D!

We picked up a 2p Nature hike tents off of Amazon and it was the happy medium you're looking for. It has quickly become our favourite tent. The poles are super easy and intuitive to put together. The tent is durable and has plenty of space too!

Naturehike tents have been my festival or car camping tents for years but the 2p ones make half decent trekking tents too. They’re made in China so it’s not weird to order them from Temu. Personally I got mine from AliExpress and they are higher quality, and thus more likely to last, compared to other similarly priced tents. I think buying one is more environmentally friendly in this way. The most environmentally friendly tent is a secondhand tent but the next best thing is one that will not immediately become landfill.