Naturehike - Cloud Up 2

I would recommend the Naturehike Cloud Up 2 Upgrade.. It done amazing in 60mph wind gusts and pouring rain

For a lightweight tent I recommend the [naturehike cloudup](https://a.co/d/eNWMfPv), it’s ~$100 and weighs <5lbs while be great quality (I have the same tent) I got a lot of budget gear from amazon. [Teton sleeping bags](https://a.co/d/g4UdbEr) are the highest rated for quality at a good cost on Amazon [sawyer water filter](https://a.co/d/2nghCD0) works great for $30 There are a lot of options for sleeping pads on Amazon (I have [this one](https://a.co/d/6GpciCI)) but combining it with a [ foam pad](https://a.co/d/ecgUkym) easily adds 2 to the r-value of your sleep system

Cloudup is fantastic and still going strong 4 years after I bought it.

I have the original Cloud UP 2 in 20D silnylon - it's great. Slight kink in some of the poles from high wind but otherwise it's fine. I don't use the footprint. Fly + inner - 952 g Poles - 464 g I then add 2.1 g MYOG 15 cm carbon pegs and a thick 31.49 g/sqm fitted ground sheet which is 97 g for a total of 1525 g. It fits two people fine. I've taken it on a month-long trip in Patagonia, on a few European section hikes and festivals around the world.

I have a CloudUp 2p. It’s a decent tent for the money. Like most 2 person tents, it is a tight fit for two people though.

>If anyone has any suggestions for light shelters / tents for under 300 I cant find any that are under 3/4lbs 3F UL GEAR Lanshan, 2p/4 seasons only weighs only 1060 grams. Needs two hiking poles though. Naturehike's Upgraded Cloud Up 2p tent is 1750 grams everything included. https://www.amazon.ca/Naturehike-Lightweight-Backpacking-Camping-Upgrade/dp/B07BRM51NZ/ I personally own the Naturehike Taga 2, which is under 1300 grams, but not sure if it's still sold anywhere.

Hey, I just purchased the NatureHike Cloud Up 2P. The poles are so slim it scares me! How does yours hold up in wind?

Get a cheap naturehike tent from aliexpress instead like cloud up 2. Much better

I’d narrow true two persons tents to these five: - Nemo Dagger OSMO 2P - REI Co-op Half Dome SL 2+ - Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 - Sierra Designs Meteor 3000 2P - Naturehike Cloud Up 2 I’ve used the Cloud Up and OSMO 2P, both really spacious tents, has two doors, light and all below $400 (if I remember correctly) but the others are too around that range. [11 Best 2-Persons Tent for Camping and Backpacking](https://alaskanarrows.com/11-best-2-person-tent-camping-and-backpacking/) can guide you for the rest. Helpful to also check on REI or Amazon for deals on these tents because some companies just hike them up

I have the cloud up 2, it's been a good tent. It stood up without issue in a very heavy storm that was bucketing down and knocking down tons of trees, we had no trouble inside. I do have 3 gripes, all design related and I knew about them going in. 1st is the single door at the end vs one on either side. This makes entry and exit a pain, you either crawl in or back in (neither are great options). The door design also allows rain to fall into the tent when entering or exiting. Two side doors would mean a second vestibule as well or course, and that'd be appreciated for pack storage. Another complaint I have is the lack of eyebrow poles. If these were added to the design the side walls would be much more vertical and greatly increase the usable space inside. This would make the 2 person more comfortable for 2, less significant for a single person. Lastly, the tent will not accommodate two 25" pads. That's not uncommon so I don't think it's fair to knock them for it, but that will be a requirement for any future tent I purchase. I knew of these design choices when I bought the tent. I still went for it because it was lighter than the other NatureHike tents I was considering that solved some of these issues. Still happy with my choice, though down the road I'll likely upgrade to a more expensive tent that solves those complaints and is lighter still. This tent continues to serve us well until then. EDIT: just remembered that Eric Hanson recently trialed a budget tent that he was a big fan of, check out his YouTube video and have a look at that one before buying.

I'm using the Cloup Up 2 for years now, great tent. Easy to setup and pitch. Even possible to setup in the rain with the outer first so not everything is getting wet. Very complete with groundsheet included. Vestibule is large enough for cooking or store your gear. Weight about 1,8 kg In hot conditions using only the inner tent. Survived some strong winds as well.

Nature hike Cloudup is a banger for the $

Hey! Just chiming in as someone who’s done quite a few budget-friendly trips (including the Rockies!). You're totally right to look into **Featherstone** — solid brand for the price, especially their **Backpack UL 2P**. It's light, packs small, and holds up well in 3-season conditions. For sleeping bags, here are a couple of budget options that won’t leave you freezing at night: * **REI Trailbreak 20** – around $100, synthetic fill, decent warmth-to-weight ratio for beginners. * **Hyke & Byke Eolus 30°F** (down) – if you can stretch a bit more, this one’s warm, packable, and lighter than synthetic. Also check out **Naturehike tents** – their Cloud Up 2 is budget ultralight gold if you’re okay with slightly less durability. Tip: Don’t forget a good sleeping pad — something like the **Klymit Static V** helps way more than you’d think for warmth and comfort. You’re doing great researching this now — the Rockies can be unpredictable even in spring, so solid gear will pay off. Let me know if you want recs for budget stoves or other essentials!

Biggest difference is front vs side entry. Front entry is much tighter in my opinion.  Another difference is the shape/volume. The cloud slopes up in more of a triangle while the mongar puffs out due to the pole shape. The mongar is wide enough for two 25" pads while the cloud is slightly too narrow so if you are worried about width, get the Mongar. To me, the shape of the cloud seems too shallow on the sides to be considered a true two person tent.  Weight discrepancies can be due to the total package vs excluding optional equipment like stakes/ground cloth/stuff sack. If you plan to sleep two people most of the time I would get the Mongar based on pictures. I saw the cloud in person and the guy who owned it said he didn't ever use it with more than 1 person.  Price differences happen all the time between Amazon and manufacturers. Get whatever is cheapest/ has the return policy you like. 

Used a Naturehike Cloud Up 2 in stealth green for Patagonia, GDMBR and Baja Divide. Cheap as chips with plenty of room for gear and is a surprisingly solid tent for hunkering down for a day or two in very wet and stormy Wyoming weather. My most recent purchase for a different climate (cold/dry) is a 4 season 3FUL Gear Taiji 1 tent in a stylish khaki/coyote brown. I've only set it up in the backyard and not used on a trip yet, but the zips, poles and seams look to be a little bit of a step up in finishing quality than the Naturehike. But you can't go wrong with either brand. Both tents are about 1.8kgs including poles, pegs, guylines, groundsheet etc and can be reduced further by removing any carry bags. Anyone who tells you that you need to spend a lot of money on Western branded tents doesn't know that the Chinese tent brands are about 80% the quality of the high end premium western tents at 1/3rd to 1/4 the price due to economies of scale. I would even go so far as to say that they exceed the quality of a lot of Western branded mid range tents in the $500 USD pricing tier based on my experience of seeing colleagues with a couple of very well known and popular mid tiered tents struggling under stronger winds and wetter weather. The idea that Chinese = junk is simply not true. Usually the western brands have better marketing but they are generally all made in the same factory. The other thing to consider is that all tents lose their DWR coating after a while and if your pitching in very dry desert conditions the zippers will eventually need replacing even if YKK and regularly lubed.

I’ve only used the 2p. It was heavy and bulky. But my god was it roomy and easy to set up.

Yeah the CloudUp is super nice. HOWEVER… you’ve already discovered r/Ultralight… why not take it a step further? Get a trekking pole tent (or a tarp)! I seriously recommend checking out 3FUL’s Lanshan trekking pole tent. I used it for 1000 mi on the PCT and it’s absolutely spectacular OR, get the “Twinn tarp” from Gossamer Gear, everything on their site is like 1/3 off right now!

Naturehike cloud up 2! Have had this tent for about 3 years. Used on a month long tour in summer Lisbon to Barcelona, a few around weekend trips around Portugal and recently a week in wales, with some heavy wind and rain. Great tent. Affordable, lightweight, small footprint, leak proof. Only thing is recently the zips sometimes split but thinking of fixing it. Also it’s a standalone so no need to pegs on calm nights, or the outer layer on warmer days. 3 season easy.

To add to this list: Naturehike Cloud-Up 2 - Budget friendly, self-standing, and sturdy. Weighs 1,5kg, plus 250g for the groundsheet.

Mine really weighs 1.5kg. I did add 3-4 pegs, because for some reason the tent doesn’t come with enough for all guy lines. But that would still make it 1.3kg at the lightest. Also, I have mine in dark green.

For that price, Id suggest Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 - available from Aliexpress for £106, can probably find it cheaper on specific selling groups on Facebook. its a solid tent. Free standing as well. That would be my suggestion but i know others on here will have different suggestions. Check the sub as this question gets asked often. There is Naturehike Cloud up 2 which is probably not as solid as Cloud Peak, it was my first tent, and i like it so much, i still have it despite changing tents numerous times! Sleeping Bag and Pad, if you want a good one, for a low budget, id suggest the selling groups. Sleeping pad in particular is the probably the most important equipment for the sleep system IMO, you lose more hear through the floor. Check out Thermarest but you are probably again looking at around the £100 mark at least unless you go 2nd hand. hopefully others on here will provide some budget options but again, check the sub, another question which is asked often. Thermarest Prolite + was my first sleeping pad - if you are struggling to find options within your budget, i would consider selling it to you as mine is just lying around (i upgraded last year). Suggest you do a little research first about heat ratings etc. I actually donated stove and pans and a few other bits of camping stuff recently to a charity shop, i would have been more than happy to let you have it for free if this post was made last week!

Will depend exactly what you're comfortable with, and how much gear you have, but the Naturehike 2 person tents are pretty much big enough to actually fit two people. Vestibules are substantial. I mention this because I belive they are in stock online (in the UK at least). The Star River is probably better for cold than the Mongar. Very similar design but less mesh in the inner.

Go for a NatureHike (Cloud Up, Mongar) they basically copy popular tent designs and sell them for like half the price. The real selling point is that they still use very good materials. I use a cloud up 2 and it’s served me very well.

I have a Cloud up 2 in a 2L stuff sack then compressed to 1L.

Just about any $200 tent can pack down into a 2-3L fork bag if you compress it and put the poles elsewhere. Both my NatureHike 3p and 2p Cloud up fit in my fork bags

"3FULGear" and "Naturehike" have all the tents you need If the big brands are too expensive. Well proven and reviewed tents between $120-$250.. I personally wouldn't pay an extra $200-$300 for weight savings if it's solely for bikepacking. But if you also hike a lot then the Xmid is absolutely worth it. (I'd get the Xmid 2 personally though) If you ride flat handlebars most 1.5kg - 2kg tents will be perfect in a handlebar cradle/bag. But you could also stuff the tent fabric and just strap the poles to them, or to the frame somewhere.. (SOME SUGGESTIONS) NATUREHIKE: (comes with inner tent, rainfly, poles, pegs, footprint and bags for each) 1- Cloud up 2 (super quality for the price, used, loved, and reviewed all over the world, also beat several high-end tents in YT wind tests. +Seam sealed, and includes footprint. (Con: the walls form a triangle because it doesn't have a cross pole so it doesn't have as much shoulder room) 2- Mongar 2 (a replica of the MSR hubba hubba which is a superb tent, very spacious and super easy to set up and take down. No color coding needed because it is symmetric. It also comes with a footprint and is seam sealed (maybe a con: this has an all mesh inner tent so it's best for warmer months) 3FULGEAR: (comes with the same things as naturehike, but might even be a tad better quality, no proof though) 1- Floating Cloud 2 (this is another replica of the MSR hubba hubba, but here you can choose a 4 season inner with less mesh and more fabric, also has more neutral colors than the Mongar2) 2- Lanshan 1-2 (this is the most popular budget trekking pole tent which means it is ultralight but it doesn't come with poles.) (Con: like most trekking pole tents it is not seam sealed)

Got a Naturehike Cloud Up 2 in bright Orange - never had any problems at all...if you're wild camping in Wild places - I guarantee you'll never have any bother in a Red tent, if you're high up/off the beaten track. You only need to worry about being more subtle if you're lower down and/or in high traffic areas.

I really like my nature hike cloud up 2. Nylon. Pretty light but holds up well so far. Comes with the fly and footprint. Only like $110.

I like my nature hike cloud 2, it’s about $110 and like 3.5 lbs

Yep. That is my set up for camping with the dog. It is 1.8kg which is not bad for a 2 person.

I bought a backpacking tent from NatureHike. They are relatively cheap compared to other brands. I've used it a couple of times now and it works surprisingly well and it is fairly light weight. The poles are standard length when collapsed, so I have to either have them hanging below my drop-bars or somewhere else on the bike. It works out all right.

I have a nature hike cloud up 2, whilst I will agree it's a great tent for the money, I would not like to sleep in it with another adult, especially if you want any gear in the tent as well. I've had my kids on it on different occasions and it's cosy. As a one man it's awesome. They do do a cloud up 3 could be worth considering. It depends how often you will be with your partner VS on your own, if mostly camping together I'd only be looking at 3 man tents, and you get to split the tent weight a bit.

Naturehike and 3F UL make good quality, inexpensive backpacking tents. They can be had on Amazon. I’ve got a Mongar 2, Lanshan Pro, and Cloud Up models and have had great experiences with all three.

Random question . I just purchased one from Amazon (prime day sale) and when I set it up, I noticed one of the poles (part of the Y frame) is bent... Is that on purpose or a manufacturing defect? When I fully set it up, the tent looked completely fine. Thanks! https://imgur.com/a/UVifgIs

I bought the Cloud 2 from my sister, used. It's a fine tent for the price, no amazing features but works well and is easy to setup. Sizing is on the small side, I wouldn't really want two people in the two person tent, but it's got enough space to throw your bags inside. It's been used for maybe 20 nights so far, some rain, some wind, nothing broken yet, no holes. I've stayed dry and comfy.

I have both and the mongar IMO is a much better tent. Sturdier when it´s windy and way more usefull when it´s raining. For me the problem with the cloud up 2 is that if it rains, there´s barely room for two backpacks on the "porch", so it´s easy that something gets wet. The pack, the boots, whatever, so you end up having something inside in an already small tent. I´s great for good weather camping. I use it when I don´t expect bad weather.

Naturehike stuff can be quite good. The Mongar, Star River, Topalus and Cloud UP tents are all excellent. Their sleeping pads are iffy and they lie about R values. Their sleeping bags can be crap or quite good. They have several excellent down bags that are quite affordable. One warning is they don't use RDS certified down, so assume that they plucked the down when the birds were live and other inhumane issues. Their canvas tents and their new hot tent is well reviewed. Furniture is not bad. They have a IGT table system now that rivels r/snowpeak for about 2/3 lower cost. And their new folding camp stove is quite awesome. The Outdoor Gear Review has done many many reviews on Naturehike products. Luke has a tendency of purchasing budget gear, mainly because he buys almost everything with his own money. Other really good budget brands are Paria Outdoor Products, Teton Sports and 3F UL Gear.

Get a Mongar 2p if you are not backpacking. .backpacking get the CloudUP 3p, Star River 2p or upgrade to a better tent like the Durston X-Mid 2p.

I have the cloud up 2 and use it for cycling trips. It’s easy to setup and has held up well through many very wet nights, I’ve never gotten wet inside. The floor mat is included, the zippers could be a bit better and it’s more of 1 person tent to be honest So you’re aware, they offer them in different materials, I have the 20D Also, do they really go for under 100$ in the US? Would be a really good deal, In Europe they start at 130€

I have the cloud up 2 and use it for cycling trips. It’s easy to setup and has held up well through many very wet nights, I’ve never gotten wet inside. The floor mat is included, the zippers could be a bit better and it’s more of 1 person tent to be honest So you’re aware, they offer them in different materials, I have the 20D Also, do they really go for under 100$ in the US? Would be a really good deal, In Europe they start at 130€

I had the nature hike cloud up tent and used it for about 4 summers, it served me well and I've since donated it to a friend as it's still in good usable condition.

I've purchased a few things from Naturehike and had good experiences: \- Nature Hike Rock 65 backpack, and aside from some comfort issues due to the strap design, it was a great pack for the price. Lasted 3 years and 3500kms. \- Nature Hike R5.8 Sleeping Pad, only used it for roughly 50 nights so far but comfortable, very warm and no leaks (\*yet). Only downside is that the Large Mummy size ends up being 180cm, rather than listed 186cm when inflated. Amazing for the price. \- Nature Hike R3.5 Sleeping pad, only used it for 10 nights a as a summer pad. As above, Large Mummy size is 180cm long. Very good for the price. \- Nature Hike Cloud Up 2 tent, used for when I am hiking with a partner or when the 3FUL Lanshan 1 person trekking pole tent is a risk to find a spot to pitch. Only used it for roughly 30 nights over the past 5 years but great so far. I like AliExpress, but dont browse it - instead know exactly what I want to buy before (from Reddit, YouTube and forum research), and then buy the specific item. I also use PayPal for credit card safety. Ive only had one order out of 200-300 order, that I had to chase the seller and demand a refund (which I got) after them not sending the item. After doing some research, I have found that the following chinese brands are also great: \- 3FUL does great (trekkingpole) tents, especially their Lanshan 1 and Lanshan 2 (post 2021, and non Pro versions. \- AegisMaX does great quilts and sleeping bags (if you can get them cheaply and don't mind the non-responsibly sourced down). \- Aonijie does excellent running gear, some of their trail running stuff works for fast packing and hiking. Sometimes AliExpress is so much cheaper and sells well made Chinese manufactured gear, but other times it is a similar price to the equivalent item from a western company, so I always compare.

I'm 6'4" and have a Cloud Up 2, I fit but only just, not really any room at either end

I went for the 2p to have a bit more width, plus the spec sheet showed the poles were slightly shorter although I don't know how accurate that is. Overall I'm pretty happy with it for the price. I don't love the door being on the end and pitched next to my friends $$ Mont tent it looks cheaper but it's light and has survived some heavy rain without a problem.

I’ve got the naturehike cloudup 2. Great tent for the price and ticks all of OP’s boxes.

I also own the cloud up 2 and it’s great. Really easy to set up and a good balance of light vs roomy/comfortable imo

I can also recommend the cloud up 2. It’s 3x cheaper. Maybe even lighter as well. And its withstood heavy rain and wind for hours on end with no problems.

I recently got a Cloud Up 2 for my solo (plus dog) camps. Highly recommend. Small enough to pack away and carry just myself, and suuuuper easy and quick to pitch. I don’t think I could see myself using a 1 person tent for me plus my gear, so that’s why I went 2 person. You can check my recent post for a Mourne Mountain camp at Ben Crom. But I was really impressed with the quality of it.

Was gifted a 2 person Naturehike easy enough to set up. 1 rain and a couple sprinkles and dry inside. Look for a tent with pole clips for easy assembly. Pushing rods through sleeves can try my patience. Waterproofing a tent is a simple process. Don't let that determine a purchase. Rain fly should cover the entire tent. It also helps keep the warmth in when needed.

If you are below 175, maybe 180cm tall, CloudUp will surely be OK. If you can manage condensation (sleeping alone in well vented tented should make it bearable, if it's raining out there you may need to use your buff or small microfiber cloth piece to wipe the inside part of the fly), you can look at the NH Taga/Tagar 1 tent. It will be semi-freestanding like CloudUp, but due to no separate inner mesh (only side walls have inner mesh glued to them) it should take less space and be lighter. If you want it truly freestanding, then there are Mongar / Star River tents, but both are 2P. (At least older versions of) NH Vik had issues with bad top vents placement that sometimes let the rain in. Whichever you choose, take the variant with silnylon fly (which chinese mark by adding denier number to the name - for example \`20D\`). Poliester one (typically labelled them as \`210T\`) will be heavier and bulkier when rolled up, but cheaper. If you want it even smaller and still cheap, I'd look at \`Flame's Creed 3x3m 15D\` tarp combined with Lixada's mesh inner. Very light, dirt cheap and definitely OK for shorter person. You can look up the ways to set it all up using your bike, when there are no trees, fences or other poles around (or grab foldable carbon fiber trekking poles, which are much cheaper than dedicated tarptent poles - 130cm one weighs 125g and costs 20-22$).

I edited my comment with more details. Enable the translation and check out this Taga review: [https://ginvilla.blogspot.com/2018/05/namioty-naturehike-taga-1-czesc-1.html](https://ginvilla.blogspot.com/2018/05/namioty-naturehike-taga-1-czesc-1.html) [https://ginvilla.blogspot.com/2018/06/namioty-naturehike-taga-1-czesc-2-w.html](https://ginvilla.blogspot.com/2018/06/namioty-naturehike-taga-1-czesc-2-w.html) Taga, compared to CloudUp has small bar across the main pole arc, which makes it more spacious inside, CloudUp badly needs to be widely staked, otherwise sides fully sag inside. Getting compact and light double layer tent that is both cheap and freestanding is impossible :) Depending on where you are Hubba 1, XDome 1+, Copper Spur (1 person variant) or something akin Dragonfly 1 would fit you, but those are not budget tents. That said, semi-fresstanding chinese ones are okay for not too tall people. CloudUp is very popular everywhere for a reason. But I happily sold my 1P after a single night and can not measure it to verify the dimensions provided by the manufacturer (did you check them out by the way?) I have only Taga 1 left (still waiting to be sold).

3fUL lanshan if he uses trekking poles, or naturehike cloud up for a freestanding tent. if he wants to hammock: onewind aerie hammock and 12' onewind winter tarp package. for both he needs insulation underneath him and on top of him. a sleeping bag is not enough.

Naturehike is my new favorite budget brand and I recommend it over Coleman now for entry level. I have a cloud up tent that has worked well for several years now

I’ve used a Durston X-mid and a Zpacks Duplex. These are two of the pinnacles of backpacking tents. I also use a Naturehike Cloud Up which is the best budget tent I’ve used

I have a lot of tents. I'd say for car camping my current favorite is Gazelle T4 and for backpacking my favorite is Zpacks Duplex. My current favorite budget tent is the Naturehike Cloud Up

Not sure why youre being downvoted.... most likely by some brand heads who never tried NatureHike or doesnt believe in Amazon's product. I too was a skeptic at first ! NatureHike, in particular, CloudUp series are pretty great tent and its quite lightweight at 1,5kg only packed. Ive been using NH CloudUp for the last 3 years until ive upgraded into slightly bigger ones from Big Agnes Salt Creek 2p.

Naturehike. Tested ko na sa camping sa Pulag yong 2P. Lakas ng rain at hangin sa campsite. Nasa 2.5 kg kilos ata yang 2P. Di kasama accessories. Mas magaan dyan yong 1P tent, 1.3 kg di kasama accessories.

I have a 2p nature hike freestanding tent that is almost that weight....it's the idea of getting the bike undercover to protect it from theft during the night that drew me to it.

Yeah I have the Naturehike CloudUp 2 tent and it's fantastic. Haven't had any issues at all and it's been through some shit weather

If you don’t want to use trekking poles, I can highly, highly recommend the Naturehike Cloudup 2. It’s light, spacious and easy to set up. I haven’t had it out in a storm yet, but it feels very solid. If you aren’t too fussed about colour, you can get them close to £100

I have a cloud up 2 which is the next size down but I think the design is similar and I share it with my son when we hike, I’ve found nature hike to make a great waterproof tent with good ventilation and is super lightweight. Only drawback I’d see is the single door which is annoying for two people and might be a dealbreaker for 3. The light grey and red is the best colour too, let’s light in during the day so you can see better.

Looks ok but I’ve never heard of the brand, have you checked out nature hike? I got my son and I the cloud up 2 which is a great tent for 1 adult or 1 adult 1 kid. It has a high water sil and aluminium poles as well the regular tent and rain fly it also comes with a ground sheet all in a very lightweight package.

Naturehike Cloud Up 2 or Naturehike Mongar UL 2. I have the cloud up but like better the Mongas. There are various versions of the Cloud Up 2 with different prices but also weight. I have the cheaptest and heaviest of them all at around 2 kg, but it's fine as when I go with a friend I must go to his/her pace which slower. If you check the Mongar be sure to choose the UL version. The price of that last time I checked was very competitive. That's for freestanding tents, for UL trekking pole tents you can't go wrong with the Lanshan 2.

Second the CloudUp Outdoor Educator here, I use my CloudUp 2 for 1-2 nights per week, over the majority of the year. Bought it at the start of 2023 and it’s still going strong. Only annoyance is occasional condensation + the waterproofing tape is showing a little bit of peeling but tbh I’m in a tropical climate and it’s been 2+ years so I’m happy that it’s lasted this long anyway.

I have a Lanshan and the Cloud 2UP. The Cloud is a solid tent that ai have used dozens of times in rainstorms, heat and every thing in between. One night I slept out in a storm on a granit dome and it was perfect. The Lanshan however, would be fine in the ri g ht conditions. In the rain or cool, expect to get wet inside from all the condensation. The foot of my sleeping bag was saturated and I often got drops on my face. There's no way I could spend 2x wet nights in one.

Second for the Cloudup. I use it and have been perfectly dry in pissing rain with it. There is a cloud up 3 as well... the 2 is a *tight* two person fit...

Cloud up 2 10d. Search this sub for it, I made a post with lots of info

My first tent was the naturehike cloud up 2 and honestly I loved it. I severed me well for many hikes and weighed around 1.8kg. There’s some modifications on YouTube that might be worth considering. I never had it in any severe weather, but there are plenty of YouTube videos where people have and it’s survived. I might suggest getting the 2 instead of the 1 as a lot of people say the 1 is too small, but it’s your call :)

I tried lots of options, from classic Naturehike CloudUp to various frameless shelters. Now I stopped on Lanshan 1 with a carbon pole. This setup is sub 1 kilo, quite spacious and requires little space. Also the tent is connected with the mesh liner and can be easily pitched in the rain. https://preview.redd.it/bi0vrh2uyzwe1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3cb6b0d03c2ffecfc28319379e8d32e7cf37682

I got that tent (if that is still called the Cloud UP) in the 2 person back in 2014 when I was looking for budget thru hiking gear. I always thought I would use it just until I upgraded but it ended up being super good. I still use it. It's been all over the PCT and other long distance hikes throughout the sierras in CA. I use tyvek as the ground sheet and replaced the ground stakes to get it lighter but it's pretty light how it comes stock. Free standing so it works on the granite or in the desert

Those stake-out points are if its maxed out for bad weather. I hardly use the fly and sometimes I only bring the fly as it can be set up without the inner tent like a tarp set up. Poles are attached to the inner tent becasue it's fully freestanding. I've had mine since 2014 and it's gotten hundreds of miles on it. Pretty great for the price. Kind of a bummer that it's basically a complete knock off of the BIg Agnes fly creek for 1/4 of the price but I guess it is what it is

I second that. Lanshan is fine except my copycat version is a bit finicky to pitch (maybe my pole is too long?). I have the cloud Up 2 as well and it's my favourite and i take it over the lanshan If the weight/space allows. Tried a tarp and flytent as well but i found it just too much work.

I run the Naturehike 2-CloudUP - I love it and it easily fits within my handlebars - together with my sleeping matras, ground sheet and tent poles.

I’ve got the two man nature hike and it’s great, did Lands End > John O’Groats in it and had no issues.

I’ve used the CloudUp 2 bike packing and backpacking, highly recommend it. I breakdown the poles and pegs in to the frame bag so the rest goes in the front bag with the sleep system which is all soft so fits easily. Great value tent