Cloud Up 3

Naturehike Mongar or Cloud up in their 3p version? It's relatively lightweight, affordable, and very well made. My cloudup 1p does really well in rain and wind.

For bad weather that's not extreme I really enjoy my Naturehike. I have the cloud up and it's nearly tsunami proof, that rain aint getting in! It's comparatively pretty light and affordable too. Won't pass with the ultralight community but it's much lighter than my old tent I replaced it with.

If money's no object I've heard that Hilleberg are some of the best out there (they'd better be!) All I can say from personal experience is that I've taken my Naturehike Cloud Up into moderately strong sustained winds and it did very well. I'm not sure how it would do in really high winds but it felt pretty solid at around 70kph gusts. A lot of it depends on the direction of the wind that you set up in and how well you can guy it out.

I ahve a Naturehike Cloud up and it's a narrow tent but also longer than most. I really like mine. Might be worth a look at least?

for reference, the Nature Hike Star River 2 is 53in x 84.5in 134.5cm x 214.5cm The REI Half Dome 2+ is 56in x 92in 142.2cm x 233.6 cm and the REI Half Dome 3 is 70in x 90in 177.8cm x 228.6cm EDIT Cloud 3 is 68.9in x 84.6in 175cm x 215cm I'm not a big fan of the Y style tent poles, as I feel like they don't hold up as well to winds compared to more traditional double pole designs, though they are lighter for obvious reasons. I do recommend measuring your sleeping pads and make sure there is enough room if you go with a 2 person tent. It does look like the Star River is pretty decently sized though in this regard if you're both using wide pads. I do personally like having extra room in the event of a weather event. I would highly recommend getting a larger 3 person tent for 2 people to have extra room for gear, or just moving around comfortably if you're stuck 'indoors' due to weather. Having extra floorspace as well as headroom can be amazing in those situations.

Would just get naturhike cloud up 3 if you're new to it. Like £150

The Mongar 2 is a popular budget backpacking choice. I have a larger, older Cloud UP3 that is totally viable for backpacking and quite a few people I know use the Mongar. I'd put them pretty close to the quality of my high end tents and they tend to use more generic, slightly heavier poles than the expensive backpacking tents. Their gear really hits the sweet spot for quality and low weight at a good price.

I've never heard of them but products from their parent company, DAC are ubiquitous in high end backpacking gear. I'd give a design like the sololite a try. The vestibule comes separately adding a lot of cost. I see two big problems with this tent; * Shipping stuff overseas to Canada can be a big PITA. I'm not sure where you are purchasing it but but "Bigtent Explore" option may largely avoid shipping being a PITA and that store seems to be the main place to buy them. * If you decide to sell this tent it will be difficult due to the lack of name recognition. Durston's a Canadian company that manufacturers extremely popular tents and if you want a high end option they are worth a look. I'd recommend starting with a freestanding tent like the X-Mid. I primarily use a different tent but I've been extremely impressed by one of their trekking pole tents I own. Another option is more budget oriented tents. NatureHike makes a bunch of fairly light tents (CloudUP, Mongar) and imho they are more durable than the extreme ultralight tents. If you do get serious about backpacking, you can later upgrade from a budget tent. Personally I use less expensive tents when camping close to vehicles as weight isn't a major concern and I'm less worried about damaging them. If you later decide to get a ultralight 1 person tent, the extra space of a two person will be greatly appreciated when weight isn't a concern. Go to MEC or another outdoor store (Not Atmosphere / Sportchek) and start trying on packs and find one that fits well. Keep a few in mind and purchase one that will fit the rest of your great and aim for a 60L or smaller pack. As long as you have a sleeping bag designed for backpacking that uses down and / or synthetic materials and has an appropriate comfort temperature rating its hard to go wrong.

Im going this summer with my little one (4yo) im taking my cloudup 3 as a tent. Most 3 mans would struggle with 3 adults but 2.5 humans seems fine. Honestly, before you go out and spend a fortune on clothes check vinted and the likes at this ages they grow up of stuff so fast. I've got my little one kitted out in mostly patagonia stuff I've got for a fraction of the cost. Sleeping bag he has a cute little vango penguin he loves. (Get them involved in picking their stuff). For hacks I'd say Dry run at home, you really don't want to spend half a night outdoors to find you little one doesn't like camping and freaks out so trial in the garden hell do it in the living room if you have to. Extend this to how far your route is to camp can your toddler walk that far with breaks? Because God will it not be fun to carry them plus all the gear you need. Entertainment, football/frisbee/tablet to watch movies on at camp before bed(outside noises can be scary to young minds). Keep snacks handy is the sidepouch of your bags or pockets for little breaks on the trail. I apprecaite you won't like this suggestion as an avid wildcamper...consider a campsite for their first time you have ammenities nearby and the car will be close if you need to abandon.

I have a cloud up 3 I use for just myself it's great Their gear punches above its weight. I grabbed mine on their ali express store for only £130 think it was £170+ on amazon Going to use it for campsite camping for me my partner and our 4 year old