Cloud Up™ 3-Person Ultralight Backpacking Tent

Naturehike tents or zorali tents will be perfect to start with on a budget get a 3p tent it’s big enough for both of you and then use it either for car camping or hike in Get insulated mats to sleep on and either the Mont helium sleeping bags or neve quilts or sea to summit ember quilts Lights are a must get some head lamps and a bright lantern for the area to cook in If cooking by fire Alton titanium grill 40-60l Icebox not esky and companion 3 burner stove Small table and couple of the foldable stools not the modern camping chairs or the director’s chair

I also have used the Cloud Up (3) and cannot recommend it enough to my friends. It's kept me dry and even warm with winter camping last xmas. It comes with a good ground mat, but getting an additional tarp to hang above would make things extra safe, as stated by others. Only thing is I wish it had more storage inside.

Naturehike Mongar or Cloud up in their 3p version? It's relatively lightweight, affordable, and very well made. My cloudup 1p does really well in rain and wind.

For bad weather that's not extreme I really enjoy my Naturehike. I have the cloud up and it's nearly tsunami proof, that rain aint getting in! It's comparatively pretty light and affordable too. Won't pass with the ultralight community but it's much lighter than my old tent I replaced it with.

If money's no object I've heard that Hilleberg are some of the best out there (they'd better be!) All I can say from personal experience is that I've taken my Naturehike Cloud Up into moderately strong sustained winds and it did very well. I'm not sure how it would do in really high winds but it felt pretty solid at around 70kph gusts. A lot of it depends on the direction of the wind that you set up in and how well you can guy it out.

I ahve a Naturehike Cloud up and it's a narrow tent but also longer than most. I really like mine. Might be worth a look at least?

for reference, the Nature Hike Star River 2 is 53in x 84.5in 134.5cm x 214.5cm The REI Half Dome 2+ is 56in x 92in 142.2cm x 233.6 cm and the REI Half Dome 3 is 70in x 90in 177.8cm x 228.6cm EDIT Cloud 3 is 68.9in x 84.6in 175cm x 215cm I'm not a big fan of the Y style tent poles, as I feel like they don't hold up as well to winds compared to more traditional double pole designs, though they are lighter for obvious reasons. I do recommend measuring your sleeping pads and make sure there is enough room if you go with a 2 person tent. It does look like the Star River is pretty decently sized though in this regard if you're both using wide pads. I do personally like having extra room in the event of a weather event. I would highly recommend getting a larger 3 person tent for 2 people to have extra room for gear, or just moving around comfortably if you're stuck 'indoors' due to weather. Having extra floorspace as well as headroom can be amazing in those situations.

Would just get naturhike cloud up 3 if you're new to it. Like £150

Im going this summer with my little one (4yo) im taking my cloudup 3 as a tent. Most 3 mans would struggle with 3 adults but 2.5 humans seems fine. Honestly, before you go out and spend a fortune on clothes check vinted and the likes at this ages they grow up of stuff so fast. I've got my little one kitted out in mostly patagonia stuff I've got for a fraction of the cost. Sleeping bag he has a cute little vango penguin he loves. (Get them involved in picking their stuff). For hacks I'd say Dry run at home, you really don't want to spend half a night outdoors to find you little one doesn't like camping and freaks out so trial in the garden hell do it in the living room if you have to. Extend this to how far your route is to camp can your toddler walk that far with breaks? Because God will it not be fun to carry them plus all the gear you need. Entertainment, football/frisbee/tablet to watch movies on at camp before bed(outside noises can be scary to young minds). Keep snacks handy is the sidepouch of your bags or pockets for little breaks on the trail. I apprecaite you won't like this suggestion as an avid wildcamper...consider a campsite for their first time you have ammenities nearby and the car will be close if you need to abandon.

I used to have a Cloud Up 3, and recently got a Mongar 2 (Same company as the Cloud Up) Both kept me dry in the rain, really solid tents, especially for the money. The 3 was surprisingly large I prefer the Mongar because it has 2 doors. My husband and I share it comfortably. I'm quite wide, he is quite long, and neither of us felt too cramped with our packs in the vestibules.