Naturehike for both, I get mine off aliexpres where they have their own store so you can be reassured it's the real deal. They frequently have sales there that they don't on their main website. Two specific suggestions are the [CW400 sleeping bag ](https://www.naturehike.com/products/cw400-down-ultralight-sleeping-bag)which packs up very small, here's mine next to a Nalgene for comparison:
https://preview.redd.it/fl2kjhl1c9ng1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d3b66d846ed0a2186bf6b9f3b0625e427b4e180
And perhaps their Mongar 2 UL tent? Or, if you're on more of a budget and are okay with it being somewhat heavier, how about [this one](https://www.naturehike.com/products/cloud-river-2-person-backpacking-tent?_pos=2&_fid=2793426a2&_ss=c)
I would go with the Mongar 2 UL. The issue I have with the star River is the way the zipper attaches making it a pain to open and close. It's also more designed for hot weather rather than cold. Both are good tents, but of the ones you mentioned, I'd pick the MongarUL. The only real negative I have with it is the colour (same for the Star River)
Honestly? Neither. I have a Tungsten 2p and it's not my favorite. The Paria's yellow colour is an absolute deal breaker for me (though perhaps not for everyone). Let me ask a few questions and I might be able to guide you a bit better:
* budget?
* where will you be backpacking and for how long?
* what season/temps/any major inclement weather like high winds, etc?
* solo hiking? carry a lot of gear or minimal?
* any weight limits?
Immediately off the top of my head I'd suggest something like the [Naturehike Mongar 2p](https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent). It's a similar price to the Paria, available in a variety of less objectionable shades, and very very good quality. At 6"2 and 210 you're not going to want a 1p tent at all.
Yep! I'd get the Mongar 2p, it has a really cool feature that you can open it up into a covered awning with trekking poles/sticks. Makes a great overhang to cook under if it's raining/really sunny. I can't say for every product but both my Naturehike tents have had zero quality issues, they're actually better than a lot of high end tents in that regard.
Oh boy... too many.
1. Okay we still have our 35 year old family Coleman. haven't used it in 25+ but its sort of a relic to the uppermost shelf of our closet. Like my childhood dollhouse, i just keep it around for sentimentality.
2. My winter tent is a 15 year old dark green 1.5p that's sturdy AF, moderately heavy, and needs to be seam sealed again but still going strong. I don't do a lot of winter hiking so no need to get a new one, just occasionally needs to be re-waterproofed.
3. Lanshan 1, mixed feelings about it. I find it hard to pitch on any sort of rocky terrain and it sure is fiddly, but I really like other aspects about it. Let's call it a draw, Lanshan.
4. Cloud Up 1 pro, LOVE LOVE LOVE this tent other than it's in the beige shade and 2 months after I bought it they released it in dark green. \*pouts I love it so much I may spend the $80 freakin' dollars to get a second fly for it grumble grumble (or maybe I'll just get dark green camo netting and carry it extra)
5. Mongar 2 UL. My latest edition. I needed a 2 person tent and this is a great value and seems really good quality. I've only used it twice but impressions are favorable. It's really big. Maybe that's just because I'm used to 1p tents.
6. Geertop Plume 2 bivy tent. Hmmm... they have bad customer service, let's get that out of the way. It's also polyester and heavy and a bivy so condensation is an issue. All that said, I really like this tent. It's BEYOND stealthy. Heck, in low lighting I can literally stand next to it and barely see it. It's also surprisingly comfortable and well laid out for a bivy.
7. And three bivy bags and a tarp. I haven't really had the chance to try cowboy tent camping yet.
TLDR: 10 if you include the bags and tarp. Favorite: Cloud Up 1 pro, least favorite: lanshan 1
Naturehike Mongar or Cloud up in their 3p version? It's relatively lightweight, affordable, and very well made. My cloudup 1p does really well in rain and wind.
Mongar UL 2p: lots of mesh https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar-ul-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=1&_sid=6d3b3fe25&_ss=r
Mongar 2 UL: also lots of mesh, idk how it’s different from the previous one other than fly color/material https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=2&_sid=6d3b3fe25&_ss=r
Mongar Pro 2 UL: less mesh, honestly to me the mesh looks comparable to star river, presumably this is the new one https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar%E2%84%A2-pro-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=3&_sid=6d3b3fe25&_ss=r
Star River 2p UL: not a lot of mesh https://www.naturehike.com/products/star-river-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=2&_sid=fd9c84fc1&_ss=r
Star River UL 2p: some sides have more mesh than others https://www.naturehike.com/products/star-river-ul-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=4&_sid=fd9c84fc1&_ss=r
Also, NatureHike should do a better job of naming their products, it’s honestly a little confusing.
Assuming the non pro version of the mongar 2 is available in OP’s region, the regular mongar 2 UL have a lot of mesh and are good tents, especially on a budget.
I mean, I own a Mongar 2 in the Forest Green 210T (second link on the list) and can definitively say that above the black fabric tub floor it is all mesh.
Mongar UL 2p: lots of mesh https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar-ul-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=1&_sid=6d3b3fe25&_ss=r
Mongar 2 UL: also lots of mesh, idk how it’s different from the previous one other than fly color/material https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=2&_sid=6d3b3fe25&_ss=r
Mongar Pro 2 UL: less mesh, honestly to me the mesh looks comparable to star river, presumably this is the new one https://www.naturehike.com/products/mongar%E2%84%A2-pro-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=3&_sid=6d3b3fe25&_ss=r
Star River 2p UL: not a lot of mesh https://www.naturehike.com/products/star-river-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=2&_sid=fd9c84fc1&_ss=r
Star River UL 2p: some sides have more mesh than others https://www.naturehike.com/products/star-river-ul-2-person-ultralight-backpacking-tent?_pos=4&_sid=fd9c84fc1&_ss=r
Also, NatureHike should do a better job of naming their products, it’s honestly a little confusing.
Assuming the non pro version of the mongar 2 is available in OP’s region, the regular mongar 2 UL have a lot of mesh and are good tents, especially on a budget.
I mean, I own a Mongar 2 in the Forest Green 210T (second link on the list) and can definitively say that above the black fabric tub floor it is all mesh.
Naturehike was also my recommendation, I have two of their tents, the Mongar 2p packs down small, there is only room inside for 2 people, no room for gear, gear goes in the vestibule. It has 2 entrances/exits and 2 vestibules, a mesh bag at the head and foot, and a net above to store some items inside the tent. I went with the 210T polyester over the 20D nylon since the polyester is still fairly light and I valued the UV and rain sag resistance as well as cost over the weight. If you want more space, they do have a 3p version.
I’d take a look at their tents and see if there’s anything that fits your criteria.
I don’t think there’s really a category that fits this style of camping, the closest I can think of is motorcycle camping. r/motocamping I assume weight doesn’t matter as much as space/volume does for them but I could be wrong, I don’t frequent that sub.
Naturehike mongar2 20d version.
I reckon you can get 2 people and if it´s yer gf then it´s fine if it´s even a bit snug.
Large doors and vestibules on both sides too.
Are you asking for recommendations? If so, I have a Naturehike Mongar 2 tent. I go to a camp every June in northern Utah. The spot we go is in a valley and we get 2-3 hours of wind every day. Frequently 50-60 mph gusts. My little tent has never had a problem! Lots of others blow away, poles break. This tent is pretty inexpensive. Under $200.
Springbar makes super quality canvas tents. Their factory is in Utah. They have a compact style, 1-2 people.
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