Hornet 2P (2019 Model)

Having used so many tents over the years (for work), 37" is probably the lowest ceiling of all the tents I've ever tried out. Part of what's great about having access to all these tents is being able to compare between them all. Most any trekking pole tent will have a higher peak ceiling. Since I hike with 120cm poles that's going to be what I'm have for a ceiling, but many trekking pole shelters are spec'd to be at 130cm (time to get some flat rocks!). 120cm comes out to 47", and 10 inches more compared to the Osmo is not small. Having two peaks for tents that use two trekking poles (or even a ridge of approx the same height between), and that most of these tents are made for one person and not two, you can see where I'm feeling the Elite 2P feels constrictive. I just measured myself sitting straight against my door: 35" tall. Next time you set up your Osmo Elite, measure floor to ceiling, it could be a few inches lower than spec'd. The non-Elite Hornet 2P is spec'd at 39", but I've only measured it at 36" tall. I can only guess they're referring to the peak of the apex of the tent pole, and not the ceiling of the inner mesh. And you're right, when I'm moving fast all day and once I've finally stopped, I'm sleeping. But I'm also bringing a shelter that weighs much less than the Elite's 2lbs. I'm OK with the compromise of claustrophobia for that feeling of, "did I even pack this thing up back at camp"?

Btw the other consequence of this being optimized for weight is that it's small… especially if you're used to car camping! Sometimes I'll take the 2P just for myself, if given my itinerary I'm willing to trade the weight for the comfort. The 1P version also only has a door on one side, which makes site selection less flexible.

I have used that tent family (the Hornet and Hornet Elite) for years in backcountry camping in all kinds of weather including blowing rainstorms. I have never gotten wet. It is a three season tent and it is optimized for "ultralight," it's relatively fragile fabric-wise, especially the Elite, which does not mean it's a bad option for backcountry—I have put hundreds and hundred of miles on mine! It's my go to—but it does mean it's not a good choice if you know you are going to be regularly facing punishing weather eg very high winds and constant rain. TLDR the "bathtub lip" of the tent body is higher on that side to compensate. It's a weight savings. The downside of this design is that you can't use it with only the fly and no tent body in wet weather; I've never done that with any tent (use only poles, fly, and probably a ground cloth) but it's a thing. It's worth noting this tent has gone through multiple product generations now, most recently to the OSMO fabric, without ditching this design. I personally I think the new OSMO versions are the best version that's been made (I have used three generations, I think all of them).

Nemo hornet is a semi free standing tent not a free standing tent. I have the 2p version and love it.

depends on how big your dog is, but long term i’d assume you’d be happier with a 2p tent. it’ll be far lighter and if u wanted you could easily carry the whole thing by yourself in solo or group trips (w/ others who have their own stuff), whereas if you only had a 3p tent you would not be UL and be very tempted to get a 1p shelter. i have hornet 2p and im likely selling to get the xdome 2p pro once it drops. the hornet is tiny, doesnt fit two 25” pads and only one person can sit up at a time, at least for the 2p. Plus its not actually freestanding - its semi freestanding meaning you need to stake out the vestibules (unlike the xdome). both the hornet and msr have to be pitched inner first, not ideal for rain, but honestly wasn’t too big of a deal when i did WCT w it and it was raining 5 out of the 7 days. HOWEVER, because of that design you cant use the tent without the inner, whereas with the xdome, if you wanted extra space you could pitch just fly - making it essentially just a tarp and much lighter (more versatile.) P.S you’ll likely not get stuck in ur tent, personally i’d just hike through the rain (that’s why you have rain gear). i’m not familiar w those parks, consider: - time of year - temps - bug pressure - current types of trips - future trips you want to do - are you ok w carrying more weight? - are you ok w getting another 1p/2p shelter in the future? - how often is your dog going to come with you? how big is it? can it fit in a vestibule? i’ve even seen dog tents lol - can ur dog use that? - budget - weight of your other gear - volume of your bag / the people you’re trekking w? - how wide is yours and your hiking partners sleep pad? plug all your answers to those into chat with shopping research and should give a good answer

I have a Nemo Hornet 2P, and I love it, though I have only used it solo. It would work for two people but would be a tight fit. The Nemo Dragonfly is a similar design but with a little more space. I think it’s a little more expensive than what you’ve mentioned though.

I have a hornet 2p and while I liked it (I def wouldn’t go with the hornet 1p) I didn’t like the way it sagged when wet. Note the hornet is semi free standing so still an issue on rocky ground. I’ve since used a Durston Xmid pro 2 as it’s so light and roomy but it’s also pricy and needs a lot of space to pitch. My next tent will be the Durston Xdome 1+. Doesn’t sag, has lots of room but less than the Xmid , proper freestanding and a good price. I’ll use that for a while before decide whether or not to sell the Xmid.

I tested the Nemo Hornet 2p and 1p tents and kept the 1p tent. The 1p rainfly does not go up that high. The 1p is longer and has room for my backpack inside the tent at the foot. With 1p, if all the guy lines are connected and pulled taut, even condensation under the rainfly will not drip onto the tent when it runs down to the edge of the rainfly. I’ve used the tent in 2 hours of heavy rain and moderately strong wind and it held up fine (site selection is critical). I have the older silnylon material and it did sag but barely touched the inner tent since I pulled all guy lines taut. The newer model silpoly material won’t sag but is heavier by a few ounces. Your concerns about getting wet is valid.