NEMO Equipment - Losi 3P

Hi all, I have been out of the tent-shopping game for a long time, but my Nemo Losi 3P has finally started to leak, delaminate and come apart on me, so I’ll be prowling Black Friday deals for a new 3+ season tent (or two, given the circumstances). The Losi 3P was my “all-rounder” - backpacking, bikepacking, car camping, etc. It wasn’t super light, but it was “light enough” and it proved durable and had a lot of “cool” features I liked - like the rolling tent bag, interior hanging pockets, big vestibules, etc. The 3P slept 2 6ft+ dudes comfortably with room for gear. 3 was uncomfortable, but survivable the one time a situation called for it. It looks like the Nemo Dagger might be their current closest equivalent? - Does anyone have first hand experience with the new “Osmo” material? It sounds very environmentally conscious but I’m primarily concerned with durability/longevity. I’m curious how it holds up. I’ve also had 2 kids (7 and 4) since I bought the Losi, that will be camping with me soon, along with my wife if I can convince her! I’m guessing this puts me in the realm of a 4+ person tent which opens up a whole array of choices I’m not familiar with. I’d love a tent that can: - stand up to the abuse of young kids - sleep 2 adults and 2 kids - still pack down small/light enough that it could serve as a backpacking tent I realize I might be hunting a unicorn but any suggestions would be appreciated. I expect I may ultimately wind up needing to figure out a “car camping/kids” tent, and a separate backpacking tent to get the job done… If that’s the case, I’d love everyone opinions on their favorites in both categories (bigger car-camping tents, and 3P backpacking tents). In both cases, weight isn’t my primary concern (4-6lbs seems reasonable) - my biggest ask is longevity and durability of the materials/waterproofing.

This thought had crossed my mind, though I know in reality (at least now) that would mean my wife in one tent, with both kids, and me in the other! Generally speaking, I'm rarely solo - even when I go backpacking, I hike with friends so we're almost always two adults to a tent (which is why I tend to lean toward 3P's) but a 2P and 3P would potentially cover all bases (very expensively). I was bummed to see the newer Nemo 3P offerings are actually significantly smaller than my Losi. That said, I also like the "livability" of a tent you can stand up in, from a family standpoint. I'd also consider a nicer 3 person backpacking tent (for me) and a cheaper 4-6 person tent that I won't care as much about if the kids destroy it! My biggest concern with "cheap" tents is generally the quality/logevity of the waterproofing. In past experience, it seems like that seems to be a differentiator between a cheap coleman tent and a more expensive family tent...

Got a Nemo 3p tent a couple years ago then wife broke her ankle. Finally just used it the first time and it’s great. 3 person is def the way to go for 2 people.

There are some pretty good clearance deals right now as the big brands are changing their lines over for spring. Big Agnes and Nemo have a few left on Amazon and REI still, I think. I snagged a ba fly Creek ul 2 for 200ish on Amazon that's going to serve as a backup/summer tent, and a 3p nemo tent (that isn't ultralight) for family trips with 2 people and dogs. If you can't find an amenable deal on sale, get an x-mid. It's the best value overall.

I have a 3 person Nemo tent, which is perfect for 1 person plus my pack, or two people without stuff. I’d get a 3 person if I were you.

Used my nemo 45 nights this past summer, still looks new.

Doesn’t help when you’re on top of the mountain in the pouring rain :) Edit this sounds a bit harsh. NEMO makes good tents I’ve owned a couple. These days I just prefer something a bit heavier.

Nemo makes great tents. i have two, one has been with me since 2012 and still works great. i got another one last year with more room cuz i have more dogs. i like that they sell internal floors to keep dogs from making holes with their paws. i also love how easy they are to set up, and how durable the materials seem to be.

There are a few shelters that use trekking poles as supports. I have a Nemo that’s about the size as a Nalgene bottle.

Tent: MSR or Nemo, sleeping bag: Nemo (the lightest warmest I’ve found) knife folding knife I’d use a Swiss army “Ranger” model, if its a folding knife sans that I’d use a fixed blade like a Pathfinder knife shop “scorpion or Kephart” the kephart is my favorite personally. It’s always good to have multiple tools for sure sometimes they fail. Additionally if you’re going to be in any remote areas take 2 ways to make fire whether that’s 2 lighters or a lighter and a ferocerium rod doesn’t matter. Ans water water water, and some way to filter said water. I’ve had situations even near or in towns where I needed water and had some but couldn’t purify it and a metal container of you can canteen or stainless non vacuum single wall water bottle if you have that and fire you’ll have purified water. Enjoy your walk sounds like fun to me

Big Agnes Marmot, Nemo, Naturehike, Durston over Coleman or Kelly every time.