Hobitat 4

That really does look like a decent option. I appreciate the input! Yeah, I currently have two REI tents, one solo backpacker - I think it’s called the Passenger 1 - and a four person tent I can stand up in (also can’t remember what it’s called). That one is exclusively a car camper as it’s big, bulky, and weighs like 12 pounds. Both have design flaws I’d like to see improved, while excelling in other ways. That one you’re pointing me to is cheap enough I can try it out and if I’m not wild about it, I won’t feel like I got screwed. Thanks!

If a ten person tent is your jam go for it. I have a six person tent I use for the campgrounds. I will only put it up if I am staying at least three days. I use my REI four person for anything less than that. We don’t spend much time in the tent. It’s just for sleeping.

I used the REI Coop one recently. Super easy to set up, but is kind of bulky and traps air whenever I tried packing up. Withheld 45+ mph winds, and with the rain cover on it was pretty warm, outside temp was probably only ever 30F or 40F. Definitely spacious enough to fit all my gear and probably another person. Hit me up if tou have any other questions. Honestly IMO it was just too big to fit into my backpack.