Tarptent - Scarp 1

I thought about the xmid and the Tarptent Dipole. Ended up with the Dipole because I'm tall and I didnt like the large footprint required to set up the Tarptent. I got the 1p and it's huge in the inside (for a ul tent).

Look at the Scarp 1 at Tarp-tent….with optional cross supports for additional snow loading protection and it’s on sale now!

Had mine out in a snowstorm and woke up with the top of the mesh covered with snow through. Obviously was dripping through the mesh a little as well. May just stick to my scarp1 for camps where snows falling

High quality tunnel tents, e.g., Warmlite, Hilleburg, perform best in high winds. Modified tunnels, e.g., TarpTent Scarp or Moment DW, also perform very well in wind.

Scarp 1? Terra Nova southern cross 1? these two are directly comparable, but the southern cross fly meets the ground so is a true 4 season tent. Nordisk Telemark 2.2. All 3 are similar to the akto in design/wind worthiness but lighter. If you consider non-freestanding then a pyramid shelter would work well in those conditions and be much lighter.

I'd get a Taiji over the Star River if you are buying a Chinese tent. Much stronger. If you can afford it though, I'd get a mid (Duomid, Pyraomm Duo) if you use trekking poles, or a Scarp if you don't. Not sure of your budget however.

I love my Scarp 1 but it’d argue it is for the more experienced. Ultimately, a tent will only provide some of the warmth. As long as you get something 4 season rated, a solid inner but with a fly all the way down to the floor you’ll have the slight temperature boost. Realistically you’re only looking to increase the temperature by 3-5°c but some people claim more. I’ve never measured a difference bigger than that no matter what shelter I use though. The most important thing to boost your temperature is clothing and sleeping equipment. I use a -1°c down quilt with a synthetic top quilt which controls moisture very very well. Combined they give me a comfort of -9°c but I’ve used the combo down to -12°c. If it’s colder than that, I use a -12°c down quilt and the same synthetic top quilt which has seen me warm and toasty down to -18°C. To summarise, you’re looking to solidify more than just a 4 season shelter but an appropriate sleep system in combination to get the warmth you want.

Have you considered the Tarptent Scarp 1? I quite like it. I use it on my winter climbing trips, sometimes with, sometimes without the crossing poles. They don’t increase the strength, just maintain its volume under stress (wind/snow). It’s not bothered by 50mph winds, haven’t gone above 60 with it though, I still prefer to find somewhere sheltered. The only downsides in my books are the inner door toggles are shite for gloves, so I added my own, and its packed size/shape took some getting used to. It felt faffy at first but all 4 season tents have a process that’s best followed for good reason. I can be out a snowstorm in 10 minutes. I actually find myself using it over my X-Mid in the summer if wind is likely. If you look at my posts here you’ll see it in all seasons and all forms, from minimal to full poles and guys.

I disagree with the people saying that your question isn't suitable for the UL sub. Ultralight isn't about being below five kilos in pack weight. It's about removing any needless weight for the job you are doing. If you're in 17 miles an hour of course you're going to need a stronger tent than if you're in five miles an hour. And if it's -30 C then your clothes are going to be heavier than if you're in 10C in order to keep you warm. On the topic of the tent question the only genuinely lightweight tent that you will find for four season will be a pyramid or tarp style tent. The MLD Trailstar is exceptional against wind but awful against snow so you need a more classical pyramid shape like the MLD Supermid. A classic pyramid shape will be very good against snow loading as they are so steep the snow can't reach thick enough to cause a collapse and they are still pretty good in wind provided you have a strong enough pole in the center and they came with enough guidelines because some like the hyperlite ultra-mid apparently underperform quite a bit in wind compared to something like the super mid (please will everyone stop calling their tents something mid). Quite a few people sleep on the pyramid 10 ignoring how strong they can be if designed for strength. Designed puts all of the force onto the pole but through compression instead of bending which is the force a pole will be strongest in and so they can survive lots of pressure put on that pole which comes from the wind and due to their fairly aerodynamic shape the wind will also not be applying that much force onto the pole to begin with. But pyramid tents do still have an upper limit, morso in wind than anything else. If you need a stronger tent then you need to ask what exactly you will be camping in to determine what type of tent. A geodesic dome like the Soulo or abisko dome will perform best under snow loading and wind particularly from any direction so if you're in places where wind speed might change often they are very good choice. Tunnel tents however are more weight efficient for the amount of strength and space they give. In the lengthway they might even be slightly stronger than 4 geodesic Dome as they are that little bit more streamline although from the side they will be worse but still pretty strong. The biggest factor of a tunnel 10 however is that the snow loading will be less than a dome tent. But there is a reason tunnel tents are the favorite for expeditions. But also what is your pack size because if you are cross-country skiing because the snow is that deep and pulling everything on a pulk to make it a lot easier to carry the weight you need then having the extra space in a tunnel tent will be very helpful. If the snow isn't all that deep and so you're able to just walk with boots or snowshoes and stick everything in a pack then a dome will probably be the best as for the same way you can get a lot stronger and so take it out in even worse conditions then you are planning. And lastly if there's just going to be high wind instead of very high wind then a pyramid tent will be more than adequate. The scarp is a strong tent, I'm not really sure how you're getting it to double the price unless hillerberg offers Swedish discounts because in most places they are half the price of a hillberg. The Xmid2 isn't really cut out for Swedish winters. It's fine under snow loading because of the steep angles and can reach surprisingly high winds for a two pole tracking pole tent particularly with all the guidelines but is ok up to 45mph (reports of higher but even Dan himself said he doubted those reports). For through hikes and what most people will be doing in ultralight that is more than strong enough but Scandinavia and the UK receive very high winds in winter and you will normally assume you will experience at least a 40mph and if the weather becomes worse than expected it won't be unrealistic to say that you might experience 60mph on any large hill or mountain at least once a week and quite often not all that predictable for when it will happen. A couple other brands you should look at are Fjallraven, Nortent and the Nordisk Seiland. All are Scandinavian manufacturers. Terranova makes some strong four season tents such as the Southern cross which might be the lightest weight four season tent you will be able to find that is a classic tent instead of a pyramid tent. But you really need to ask yourself what you will actually be doing on these hikes. If you are summit camping then you will need something like a nallo, Seiland or abisko dome because nothing else could be strong enough for the wins that you might get. If you are camping in the forest however the trees will massively reduce the wind you receive and so even an X-mid could be strong enough and a pyramid tent will definitely be strong enough.

I second the Tarptent recommendation. They balance light and durable really well. I have the Scarp 1 and love it.

Tarptent Scarp 1. Don’t need the crossing poles unless you are expecting seriously bad conditions. Using trekking poles as lifters is usually sufficient.

For 35% off, I would be getting the Scarp 1. For 1 person it’s very spacious. And yes you can fit two people inside it if you use 20 inch inflatable mats.

I love my Scarp 1. Haven’t used it for true mountain summit camping in the UK yet as I prefer to duck down to more like 700m for peace of mind. I have the crossing poles in carbon but yet to use them. Hiking poles work great to lift the fly off the inner in windy weather (use some shock loops on the mid panel guy out tabs). Having two vestibules is wonderful but plenty of space inside to bring in all your gear if that’s what you prefer. I’m not very tall so I can sit up in it just fine, but if you are very tall you might prefer a dome tent.

Scarp1 is long enough, and in terms of design, If pitched correctly, is more taut and solid than an Akto. It doesn't have quite the build quality Which is reflected in the cost, but it's good enough. And you have the option of the extra crossing poles for freestanding. (Although this will make it heavier than an Akto then). A longer, better ventilated alternative to the Enan is the Tarptent Moment. Also has an extra crossing pole available.