Tarptent - Scarp 2

I love my Scarp 2!

Another vote for a mid, forget the USA thru hiking tents for bad weather. MLD do mids in various sizes in various materials. Locus gear if you want something a bit more fancy. Tarptent Scarp is good in bad weather as well I don't get as much condensation on the inside of my DCF tents, but as long as the tent is big enough that your not brushing the sides, i've never had a problem, not even in the UK I've got: Locus gear - Khufu DCF-B Colin Ibbotson - Tramplite (DCF) TarpTent - Scarp 2 (Silnylon) Zpacks - Duplex (DCF) Sold TarpTent - Strat 2 Happilly take any of the tents out in re4ally bad weather except the Duplex Mids are fantastic in bad weather and easy to put up, only ball ache is if you decide to also use a inner You can use 2 hiking poles and something called a "Dual Pole Tip Extender" DPTE, rock solid, plus you can hang your inner BUT it is more of a faff

TarpTent scarp or stratosphere both come with a solid inner option. I have a Scarp and love the solid inner for snow camping. That’s really the only time it gets used though as it’s kinda heavy, for the other 3 seasons where I use a mid. https://www.tarptent.com/product/scarp-2/

Good weather - https://www.sixmoondesigns.com/products/skyscape-trekker-hiking-tent Questionable weather or want more space + don't care about weight - https://www.tarptent.com/product/scarp-2/

I used the Tarptent Scarpa II in Iceland during some pretty windy weather, and it held up beautifully. I was using the additional tent poles, though, so that did add to the weight.

Is it for one person or two? How are you defining 4 season? Are you expecting snow loading, or just stormy/cold conditions? The Hilleberg Nallo 2 is certainly a good tent. Have you also looked at the Soulo and Unna? The TarpTent Scarp 1 (with crossing poles) is more than big enough for one person with gear. The Scarp 2 feels less sturdy in strong winds. I have both. Have you looked at the Nortent Vern 1 (or 2)? I'm planning to buy one soon for winter camping.

not sure why 30° enters the equation since tents are not what keeps you warm. They keep the wind off you and they keep you dry in the rain. If you get a hot tent designed to be used with a wood stove, that’s not really great for backpacking unless it’s winter and there’s snow everywhere so you can put it on your pulk. And it only stays warm while the stove is operating. If year around doesn’t include lots of wind and snow, any tent designed for three season use will do. If you intend to use a tent in winter blizzards, you need two tents, one that works well in high winds and takes a load, and a three season tent. True four season tents are designed with extra guylines inside and out, and durable materials to withstand snow loading and 50+ mph winds, often floorless so one can increase space by digging down into snow. You’ll want snow stakes instead of regular nail stakes. Tents with steep sides to shed snow or long dome type with a large vestibule work well. Hilleburg and MSR have models that are designed for 4 seasons- heavy and weather worthy. I have a GoLite Shangri La - floorless, vented at the top, three person version, weighs 2.5 lbs with a single pole. I didn’t bother with the mesh inner because I never intended to use it unless there is snow. It is not freestanding and doesn’t have to be. it’s no longer in production, but there is a similar version that I believe is made by the company that bought Go Light. The other tent will have an inner bugnetted layer to keep mosquitoes off, regular stakes, lighter waterproof fly and be whatever shape you want. I have a variety of these that I have purchased over the years. My favorites were the Lightheart gear - I wore out the first one, replaced it with the same model, and then it was stolen from the garage when a roommate left the door open. I replaced it with a Durston Xmid. In the past, I have used several models of Tarptent. They also have a four season model called the Scarp. You might have a look at their various models. They do a balance of weight and durability. They are far too light for true severe winter conditions but would be okay generally for use in snow with appropriate stakes.

High quality tunnel tents, e.g., Warmlite, Hilleburg, perform best in high winds. Modified tunnels, e.g., TarpTent Scarp or Moment DW, also perform very well in wind.

I'd get a Taiji over the Star River if you are buying a Chinese tent. Much stronger. If you can afford it though, I'd get a mid (Duomid, Pyraomm Duo) if you use trekking poles, or a Scarp if you don't. Not sure of your budget however.

I disagree with the people saying that your question isn't suitable for the UL sub. Ultralight isn't about being below five kilos in pack weight. It's about removing any needless weight for the job you are doing. If you're in 17 miles an hour of course you're going to need a stronger tent than if you're in five miles an hour. And if it's -30 C then your clothes are going to be heavier than if you're in 10C in order to keep you warm. On the topic of the tent question the only genuinely lightweight tent that you will find for four season will be a pyramid or tarp style tent. The MLD Trailstar is exceptional against wind but awful against snow so you need a more classical pyramid shape like the MLD Supermid. A classic pyramid shape will be very good against snow loading as they are so steep the snow can't reach thick enough to cause a collapse and they are still pretty good in wind provided you have a strong enough pole in the center and they came with enough guidelines because some like the hyperlite ultra-mid apparently underperform quite a bit in wind compared to something like the super mid (please will everyone stop calling their tents something mid). Quite a few people sleep on the pyramid 10 ignoring how strong they can be if designed for strength. Designed puts all of the force onto the pole but through compression instead of bending which is the force a pole will be strongest in and so they can survive lots of pressure put on that pole which comes from the wind and due to their fairly aerodynamic shape the wind will also not be applying that much force onto the pole to begin with. But pyramid tents do still have an upper limit, morso in wind than anything else. If you need a stronger tent then you need to ask what exactly you will be camping in to determine what type of tent. A geodesic dome like the Soulo or abisko dome will perform best under snow loading and wind particularly from any direction so if you're in places where wind speed might change often they are very good choice. Tunnel tents however are more weight efficient for the amount of strength and space they give. In the lengthway they might even be slightly stronger than 4 geodesic Dome as they are that little bit more streamline although from the side they will be worse but still pretty strong. The biggest factor of a tunnel 10 however is that the snow loading will be less than a dome tent. But there is a reason tunnel tents are the favorite for expeditions. But also what is your pack size because if you are cross-country skiing because the snow is that deep and pulling everything on a pulk to make it a lot easier to carry the weight you need then having the extra space in a tunnel tent will be very helpful. If the snow isn't all that deep and so you're able to just walk with boots or snowshoes and stick everything in a pack then a dome will probably be the best as for the same way you can get a lot stronger and so take it out in even worse conditions then you are planning. And lastly if there's just going to be high wind instead of very high wind then a pyramid tent will be more than adequate. The scarp is a strong tent, I'm not really sure how you're getting it to double the price unless hillerberg offers Swedish discounts because in most places they are half the price of a hillberg. The Xmid2 isn't really cut out for Swedish winters. It's fine under snow loading because of the steep angles and can reach surprisingly high winds for a two pole tracking pole tent particularly with all the guidelines but is ok up to 45mph (reports of higher but even Dan himself said he doubted those reports). For through hikes and what most people will be doing in ultralight that is more than strong enough but Scandinavia and the UK receive very high winds in winter and you will normally assume you will experience at least a 40mph and if the weather becomes worse than expected it won't be unrealistic to say that you might experience 60mph on any large hill or mountain at least once a week and quite often not all that predictable for when it will happen. A couple other brands you should look at are Fjallraven, Nortent and the Nordisk Seiland. All are Scandinavian manufacturers. Terranova makes some strong four season tents such as the Southern cross which might be the lightest weight four season tent you will be able to find that is a classic tent instead of a pyramid tent. But you really need to ask yourself what you will actually be doing on these hikes. If you are summit camping then you will need something like a nallo, Seiland or abisko dome because nothing else could be strong enough for the wins that you might get. If you are camping in the forest however the trees will massively reduce the wind you receive and so even an X-mid could be strong enough and a pyramid tent will definitely be strong enough.