Breville - Precision Brewer Glass (BDC400BSS)

I have used the timer as well and not ashamed to admit it like James was. I like that it has 2 filter sizes. Also the coffee is good enough not to be bothered with manual pour over. Though it has all the possible settings I still go with the Gold setting. I got glass carafe version as it was 180€. Thermo carafe costs 60€ extra. But glass version has keep warm function which can be turned off. The machine doesn't feel cheap but is a bit loud as are all vibro pump espresso machines.

I have the glass carafe version, got it for $110 open box. Both the breville brewer and baratza encore that I bought at the same time have been amazing for 5 years daily use now

I sold my precision brewer after a while, partly because of it being difficult to clean properly. It had all these nooks in the basket and the thermal caraffe lid always contained leftover liquid which seemed unhygienic[](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=8c342fd051715880&q=how+to+pronounce+unhygienic&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMIfcRowy3w8sc9YSnjSWtOXmPU5eINKMrPK81LzkwsyczPExLjYglJLcoV4pPi4eIqzcuoTM9MzctMtmJRYkrN41nEKp2RX65Qkq9QANSVD9SWqoBQBAAn2r_lXwAAAA&pron_lang=en&pron_country=gb&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwixyter7IuNAxXLcvEDHdKYIH4Q3eEDegQIPhAO). Has this been improved?

I picked up a Breville Precision Brewer at TJMaxx for $179 & havent looked back. It makes a great cup, once you figure out your settings. I havent tried it, but I hear the cold brew function on it is a joke, though. Really good coffee beans make all the difference in the world too. If you are going to go through the trouble of finding a really good coffee maker, find a local roaster & brew good beans. Cheers!!

Same. Bought it full price though but worth it. They're called Sage in Europe (I guess the website redirects though) and they also have a glass carafe one with heat plate but don't get that. The insulated one will keep your coffee warm for roughly a working day and heat plates burn your coffee.

They are really simple machines so getting one that is more expensive means it is probably full of features you don't need but that are points of failure. You really need to go high end on drip machines. Like, my programmable Sage (Breville outside of the EU) Precision Brewer is great but it's a 300€ machine. Even a Moccamaster is just a 300€ machine that has two buttons. On/off and half / full can. It's maybe a bit more stylish. It might have a more complex program, it might have higher quality materials. But none of that matters if you don't grind your coffee in the morning. You can throw some store bought pre ground garbage into the cheapest coffee maker you can find and it will taste the same. So just get the 30€ one and replace it every 2 years. Everything between 30 and 300€ is just the 30€ machine with a timer.

I concur, amazing bit of kit for single cup pour overs and batch brewing.

That's exactly how I use my precision. I also swapped to it from a pour over setup for convenience. I'm really happy with it.

Breville precision, pricey but solid.

I had this exact same issue and I never see it referenced in positive reviews of the machine. I would use special cleaners for straws to get into the lid and it would come out dark brown no matter how hard I tried to clean it thoroughly.

I like my Breville Precision Brewer. On top of its automatic start, your brew can be tweaked in lots of ways. It’s expensive for drip coffee, but I love it.

I wouldn't really consider it to be a one machine to rule them all type of machine because it is non-adjustable other than the amounts of coffee and water you use. But there is a machine that I would consider to be that, and an excellent machine all-around: The Breville Precision. Totally configurable, and is Hoffman's daily driver, in fact.

If you can squeak out a few more dollars (or find it on sale) check out the Breville Lux Brewer. I have the Precision brewer for 5 years or so and its been outstanding and I would recommend except it does not have a removeable reservoir (I wish it did!). Looks like the Lux Brewer has the same functionality but has the removeable reservoir. I dont know if it can do single cups without using the carafe, but its completely capable of making single cup qtys because thats pretty much all I use it for. It has a bunch of other cool features like cold brew, pour over adapter, and things like that. Its programmable to whatever recipe you want but I almost always use the default gold setting. It makes great coffee provided you use good beans, grind, water quality, and so forth. There are cheaper ones, but this is the one that I would go for as it uses an insulated carafe instead of a warmer plate. [the Luxe Brewer™ Thermal | Breville (US)](https://www.breville.com/en-us/product/bdc465?sku=BDC465BSS1BNA1)

If you’re in the US, go find a local TJ Maxx or Marshall’s. They typically have Breville Precision Brewers for on sale for $179. I actually got one for $89 recently. Any of those on your list will be perfectly fine though. I like the OXO stuff for the money, but if you can wait on a moccamaster sale you’d be in good shape. It’s not my favorite brewer at MSRP (I much prefer the Breville precision, the Ratio 6, and the Fellow Aiden—all of which I’ve owned), but if you can get it around $200 it’s great.

If you’re using a good machine and grinder there’s really no quality difference whatsoever once you’re dialed in. Drip and pour over are conceptually the same thing, it’s just a matter of if you wanna do it yourself or not. I make pour overs for smaller weekend or evening cups, batch/drip for mornings before work to save time and brew larger cups. Using a Fellow Aiden currently, which has been great but also have the Breville Precision (also great) and have had the Ratio 6 and Moccamaster previously.

Lol, yeah, I suppose I was exaggerating a bit. Anyways, that’s beside the point - I don’t think it would be worth the money for OP to buy an Aiden if he has a poor quality grinder and isn’t buying good beans. That was the main thing I was trying to say. I’ve owned an Oxo 8-cup, Breville Precision and my dad owns an Aiden so I’ve tried that now too and they are absolutely fantastic, although my favorite is still a pour over. None of those would be as good without good grinders, though.

Have had my breville precision for 6 years and counting. No issues so far.

Had the breville precision brewer for 5.5 years. Recently it wasn’t brewing as hot as it used to. Was just annoyingly lukewarm. Upgraded to the moccamaster and very happy so far. Love that it has a 5 year warranty.

Just bought the moccamaster a few weeks ago. Very happy with it. Love that it has a 5 year warranty. It was about $560 CAD after tax. Expensive but I read about people having it for 20+ years. Got it after my 5 year old Breville precision brewer no longer had a consistent temperature.

I managed to find a deal on it in November a couple of years ago.... And so it became my Christmas present. Yes it's stooopidly expensive for a filter machine, but you can play with settings, adjust brew temperature, set bloom times .... Or just hit the auto button. Most days I actually just areopress..... But when I'm going to be busy, setting this to go is awesome for low effort coffee. And dinner parties.... I can't say enough nice things about it.

I've had the Breville for 3.5 years, and have no idea if the company stands behind it. It just makes coffee every day, gets cleaned occasionally, and keeps making more great coffee. The lid of the carafe can be a little annoying and get stuck in the depressed position sometimes, which is easy to correct, but that's the only complaint I have.

I have the breville precision brewer, my mom has the grind control (the one with the built in grinder). Both are great, mine is only a few years old but he’s has been brewing daily for like 15 years

There’s a new model of the BPB coming out. Also, I had one and sold it. The carafe lid is a poor design for cleaning. And it’s only available as a part by buying the whole carafe again.

I saw this machine live at the amsterdam coffe festival I've been using the precision brewer for a decade daily. Couple of questions from my side - can it still make cold brew? That setting that would slowly release cold water over the night - does it have an automatic start do it can start brewing let say at 6am -is it compatible with thr v60 adapter that thr precision brewer had -can it saved the settings of pre infusion and temperature like "my brew" so next time you don't need to re add thr settings evey time -there is no longer a glass version with heatplate right? And finally is this replacing the precision brewer or is it to be sold next to it?

I have the Breville precision brewer, it’s been going strong with daily use for 8+ years. I was considering the moccamaster but got the rec from a casual chat with a barista. I love the thermal pot, I can bring it to where I’m sitting and it stays hot for several hours. I’ll replace it with the exact same one when the time comes.

Honestly, I’ve used a great number of filter brewers. I’ve never had any issues with the Sage (Breville) precision brewer, The Moccamaster, or the Wilfa Precision brewer. Each of those come within budget, and anyone would be thrilled to get em :) Nice gift and good luck!

I bought the Breville Precision Brewer, and it is a great coffee maker. The MochaMaster was too small, and we only make one pot per day.

I own it, it’s great from a single cup to a pot.

I did say that most gold cup machines must use a pump to get the consistency of temperature and flow. I own the breville after cross shopping the mocamaster and decided my wife would enjoy the iced coffee pre-set and I like the idea of the descaling reminder.

> Breville Precision Brewer does a single cup, but you need to buy an adaptor to brew directly into a cup. No you don't. The pourover kit lets you use things like V60s instead of its own basket.

To replace the _basket_, yes. But you can just use the existing cone filter insert and put any cup you want underneath. You don't need the kit to not use the carafe...

It's true; I had a Breville Precision before I upgraded to the Aiden, so I am familiar with it :) e: the only possible reason I could even remotely think of is just wanting the spacer it includes to raise the cup a bit if you have the version with the heater under a glass carafe and don't want your cup resting on the heater but you can literally use anything to raise the cup (I used a ramekin, even though I had the thermal carafe version, just for less splashes)

Big fan of the Breville Precision Brewer, but the Fellow Aiden has decent reviews and has a little better look/design. If he doesn't have one, a nice grinder is also something to consider.

You can go way down a rabbit hole here… My current drip setup is a Breville on the Gold setting. Probably get a Fellow Aiden for the next one. I’d also recommend a good burr grinder if you don’t have one yet.

Same but called Breville Precision Brewer in the states. This has been my daily driver drip maker for the last 3.5 years. I prep the night before, use spring water, \~69 grams coffee to 1200ml water at the "8-cup cone max" fill line and "Gold" setting. It has several options to customize under "My Brew" including bloom time, temp, flow rate, etc. I don't have a problem with the coffee not being hot enough, but I haven't checked the temps with a thermometer. I usually can't drink it right after pouring from the carafe and a little milk cools it to the right temp for me. My minor gripe is cleaning the thermal carafe. It gets quite a layer of old coffee and scrubbing, vinegar, coffee cleaning tablets haven't worked well. And the cap seems to trap a dribble of coffee as well. I'll probably have to get a replacement carafe eventually.

A lit of brewers are like that, they use the full water you put in. I have a Sage (Breville) PB and I just have a jug next to it that I use to fill it up. Just add only as much water as you intend to make, same as when adding coffee

Other people have pitched in with their replies (and as always the main ones are the Moccamaster and the Sage/Breville PB) but one thing to add is to go for one with a thermal carafe. Forget the glass carafes with the heating plates. Thermal carafes are such a better experience and convenience unless you want to keep your coffee for more than 4-5 hours

I’ve had my Breville Precision for a couple of years now. Choosing the “gold” option is very good, but you also have the option to create and save your own settings for water temp, bloom time, and brew time. I’ve only started tinkering with those settings along with grind size with my Breville Grinder and I have absolutely noticed an improvement by going beyond the default settings. This brewer can be a simple one button push if you just want fast and easy every morning, but you can also play around with things to dial in exactly what you want.

Breville Precision Brewer does a single cup, but you need to buy an adaptor to brew directly into a cup. It’s big and looks a big like a space ship. The Oxo 8 cup is smaller, can brew directly into a mug, but there’s no way to set for an auto start, and for this reason it’s less expensive. I have the BPB and really like it as it makes good pots!

Yo mate, I have had the sage or Breville precision brewer since last easter and it is amazing with temp control and single cup brewing. For my first machine it is amazing and it can brew 1.8l (idk in ounces or cups). It is currently on sale in the UK with some stores selling it for less than 200 quid. I would recommend getting a good grinder with the rest of the money as it allows you to spend more on the grinder.

I have the Breville Precision brewer, it works great but the heating pad looks like shit. The non-stick coating or whatever is it wore out and now I have to clean it or it will get rusty. Before that I had a $20 coffee maker and the coffee the Breville makes is so much better. I just wish they would've made their heating pad better quality.

The Aiden might be overkill -- sounds like the thing you want is a good drip coffee maker with a clock.  The "clock" part isn't the expensive thing (you can get a Mr Coffee thing with a clock for $30), it's the "good". Tbh I'd buy a decent one second hand. I've used the Behmor Brazen and Oxo 9 cup, and recently switched to the Breville Precision (all second hand), and can vouch for all of them, tho I really do like the Precision the best. And all are cheaper than the Aiden.

I do both pour over and drip. You can get really complicated with pour over, and you will see endless posts where people claim that unless you have this and that you will not achieve good coffee. Honestly don't worry about it. I have a V60 switch, you will see posts saying that V60s aren't the best, you need zero bypass etc etc etc, you will also see people come up with really complicated steps for a V60 switch. I have a 1z presso x-ultra hand grinder, it's a pretty good all rounder, you will see people say that unless you have a K6, or Pietro your pour over, or a commandant it won't taste good. But you could just get yourself an 1zpresso Q air for like £40 or whatever and still make great coffee. I don't have a £200 gooseneck kettle, I use an old sainsburys own brand one. I just buy the normal brand V60 papers, none of this quick flow, slow flow stuff I have two recipes, one is the one I use every day which is a version of this one [The Coffee Chronicler] (https://youtu.be/68ZOXrXbVHc?si=xLblP-Ti7n62W-rS)onicler Really easy, two pours, really nice coffee! And a more complicated one that I do for very specific coffees because it takes longer and I only do it when I can be really bothered. [Tetsu Kasuya](https://youtu.be/4FeUp_zNiiY?si=QHL2URVPQOq5SJA3) I also have a breville precision brewer, I have my own custom set up, but the "gold" setting is really nice so no need to get technical with it. I would say drip is less effort overall, but the downside is you have to grind a lot of coffee in one go, and the coffee will stay warm for maybe around 4 hours with the thermal carafe (I think the new luxe precision is better). So you can't make all day coffee. Also the cost is higher with the cost of the machine and grinder. Pour over can be more fun, if you're doing it for fun, cheaper entry, and you can try different beans per cup if you have the time and effort.

I was also disappointed with my cuisinart coffee maker and grinder. I have been happy with a breville precision brewer and baratza encore grinder since switching a couple years ago.

Breville Precision if he cares about the ability to tweak a bunch of variables, despite the brewer not being very remarkable to look at on your counter every single day. Moccamaster if he cares about design. If he’s into mid century design, things like Herman Miller furniture, vintage Braun products, record players, etc. Fellow Aiden if he’s into the latest tech They’ll all brew pretty good coffee, but in my opinion these three serve three different types of people. I care about my coffee and nerd out over my pour over coffee, but I own a Moccamaster because I simply cannot justify having an ugly coffee maker on my counter 24/7/365 when something as beautiful as the Moccamaster exists

Looks nice but still looks like its going to be pain to clean, too many intricate parts, they should take notes from moccamaster

its not about how many parts but about how are they deisgned, the lid for the carafe is hollow and cannot be disassembled, same the plastic part on the carafe also cannot be removed and yes coffe goes underneath it. source: I owned the previous precision brewer for years this looks like they didnt improve a thing on this new one

I only make filter coffee at home. I use the Breville Precision brewer and I'd recommend it over the other two filter options you have. First, it's very configurable. Second, it comes with an insulated steel carafe. If you already ruled it out, I'm curious why?

After owning multiple moccamasters and feeling like they channelled and brewed too hot for more extractible beans I've switched to the breville precision brewer based on advice from the coffee nerds I know. Could not be happier with the function and brewed coffee. Going on 3 years with no issues.

Seconded. Love mine as well.

My experience with vacuum carafes is that if you are brewing a small amount t of coffee, you need to first warm up the carafe, else the cool carafe cools the hot coffee. Do you experience that with the moccamaster? I have the breville precision and have been considering a switch

I have an aeropress and for anything over one aeropress cup, I will brew using my drip brewer. Sometimes, that’s 20oz. The breville will bloom the grounds initially and then there is a pause before it lets the rest of the water out. By the time the coffee is in the pot, it’s cool. I have to boil water and preheat the carafe and the filter basket to get hot coffee for small volume. Such a pain.

I love ours. I replaced the Breville Precision Brewer (a fine coffee maker) with it. Makes great coffee from 300 ml to 1300+ ml. Cold brew also works like a charm.

This is the correct answer for Hoffman devotees. (Edit: He admits it's what he uses when he wants to set a timer and wake up to coffee!) I have this machine and it's rather amazing.

Great machine! I recently added my own markings for liter and half liter using a label maker. And it's fun to play with the personalized settings.

Breville precision brewer. Can make 1-12 cups of coffee. Also supports a pour over attachment which is quite nice for single brews

Breville is a better brewer, mocca is maybe better built.

I had a Cuisinart "Grind - N Brew" with the built in grinder for 10+ years. Thought i'd "Upgrade" to the Breville with its hopper of coffee beans and it automatically figuring out how much coffee to grind based on how many cups of coffee you were making in the pot. After about 2 years it started to leak, starting off once in a while, and then getting worse. And by leak, it's not just some water running out... its while the coffee is being made and since I use the timer i'd come downstairs in the morning to see a ton of coffee spilled all over the counts, down the drawers, and on the floor. The chute between the grinder and basket would also clog. I went back to a new Cuisinart like 3 years ago and it's been great.

It depends what you want: If you want to tweak and maybe hit maximal bean flavor expression w/ said tweability, probably a fellow aiden. If you want a no fuss tank that'll last forever - Moccamaster If you want a few basic features but nothing crazy that'll also be very durable - Sage/Breville brewer