Moccamaster (Technivorm) - CD Grand

Funny I just came here to research coffee machines because my 15yo MoccaMaster given to me by my mom makes very meh coffee. Anyone have tips on what I could be doing wrong? I probably need to descale, I am guessing it has never been descaled in its lifetime.

Well besides lasting forever, it was the first coffee maker to be gold cup certified and basically until breville made a copy, the only consumer coffee maker one to be.

There's no mental gymnastics involved if you care about a better end product. If coffee is just a 'cup of jo' for you then you probably won't care enough about the difference

Moccamaster is the answer

Theyre great! And still designed to be easily repairable. They also make a way better cup of coffee.

I have the glass carafe and thats what I would recommend. Some people prefer the stainless carafe with no heater but I like the glass. You can also find them on sale quite often.

Get a mocca master

I have had both. Thermal is indeed better because the heat from the other one, with the glass carafe and the heat plate under it is supposedly bad for the coffee. But i really like the glass carafe looks though

They do go on sale, but you can also install the capital one shopping extension, view the product on Amazon, and check for competing offers from other retailers. I got an offer from abt electronics for like $215 during last year's holiday season. I've also seen lightly used MMs on FB marketplace for 150ish. If youre gifting, get the glass carafe--its much easier to clean and coffee stays plenty hot. Good luck!

I have the glass one. It's very easy to use and clean.

I've been using the glass one for 5 years now and I've given it a fair share of accidental bumps and whacks into the counter top or the sink and have had no issues. Glass quality for a coffee machine isn't thicker=better If you feel yours has a manufacturing defect, contact customer support and get it replaced.

Granted we have what we call "soft" water but i think we descaled our old moccamaster once in like...12 years. Gave it away because we upgraded to a more expensive moccamaster, so it was still going strong then.

Lol everyone's just passing on their opinion instead of answering OP's question. Dude the only good batch brewer out there in the market in India is Moccamaster which will set you back 35k rs. The only manual brewer that caters to the type of convenience you seek is the Hoop brewer (by Ceado). Costs 5k on hebbey.com. Dump the ground coffee, pour the entire amount of water in one go & come back after 4-5 mins to transfer your brew into your cup/thermos. However this won't fit more than 400 ml of water in one go. You'd have to do 2-3 pours for 1L which would take around 15 mins to complete. But one of the best brewers out there right now for the convenience & taste.

Per my above post for use I can say I've descaled mine maybe....MAYBE 5 times in nearly 10 years and 12,000+ pots brewed. Thing is a tank.

New to this sub BUT as a former independent owner operator and currently still in CPG logistics with a funky schedule I would challenge anyone to find a coffee maker that isn't commercial that can hold up like a mocha master. During COVID I was running 5 days a week, 3500+ miles a week and had a sleep schedule that demanded coffee. Id bought my mocha master 4 years prior and had brewed a pot of coffee a day minimum for that time, COVID hit schedule got wild trucking food and that went to me brewing two pots and my partner brewing one per day, COVID rush ended I sold out switched to night shift work so 2 pots a day total for the household, now I manage a couple warehouses for a cpg company and back to a wonky schedule, partners in school, teenage son and his friends 3-4 pots brewed a day (we go through approximately 5 lbs of coffee beans every 14 days) and that original mocha master from 2016 is still kicking. Best guess it's brewed around 12,000 pots of coffee and I've got 100% faith it will brew two to three more tomorrow without missing a beat. By far the absolute best appliance investment besides my washer that I've ever made. Absolutely insane if you think about the usage I've gotten from that thing.

My biggest regret is not buying the hot plate version. I got the carafe. Which maybe I’ll like some day if a lot of people drink coffee in the house. I just always had an experience where the hotplate would burn my coffee over time. But now the carafe gives me room temp coffee after some time. I still love love love my moccamaster.

Mocca Master to the top. We have had one for 10 years and another for about 5 or 6 years. They are stone simple and reliable machines that never make a bad cup of coffee.

They are pretty retro looking devices but after 40 years of buying every coffee making widget since Mr. Coffee showed up this is the end of the line for me. Technivorm to the rescue!

Moccamaster, they can last a long time.

Went on vacation and started a pot of coffee. Came back into the kitchen 10 minutes later and it was still brewing. I forgot how slow regular drip coffee makers are. Moccamaster has spoiled me.

It might be good to add the mochamaster to your list. Makes good coffee and has good warranty/ cs.

A lot. I was genuinely pissed off that I waited as long as I did to have a really good cup of coffee. Still to this day, the only thing that I regret is not buying the moccamaster sooner. 

I grind the beans fresh every morning. We get two bags of Jim's brand, sweet love flavor, delivered every couple of weeks and it works perfectly to a pot a day.

I’d go with the [Moccamaster](https://productbible.com/product/technivorm-moccamaster) if you want a drip brewer. Nothing else comes close in terms of BIFL.

Bought one yesterday after I saw your comment. Thank you!!

I know you asked for something other than Moccamaster, but it’s Moccaster all the way Bought it six years ago and it never let me down. Bad coffee? Yes, but that was quality of beans and grinding size. Both errors on my end

I concur - and I own a Technivorm too that no longer gets used.

It's an investment, but the Mocca Master has definitely been worth it. Just a quality drip coffee pot that makes the best coffee, and lasts forever.

I just bought a refurbished Moccamaster, but the Zwilling Enfingy looks very intriguing. Has a bloom cycle.

Another vote for Moccamaster but a word of caution….people will say and have said in this thread how great of coffee it makes but while that may be true vs cheaper brewers most brewers on the SCAA list will make good coffee and the differences between the quality of the coffee they brew isn’t huge. Diminishing returns in the better the brewer you get. Not steering you away, my first one from the late 1990s is still going strong at my son’s house and my 2nd at our home is chugging along great. The Moccamaster is a no frills, BIFL coffee brewer.

It was my COVID purchase back in 2020. Have used mine every single day. No regrets for supporting a Dutch, union-made, high quality coffeemaker. No brainer at a significant discount tbh.

When I bought an espresso machine I had been using a Technivorm for 7-8 years. It was a keeper. However I gave it to a friend of mine and he's still using it daily. It's got to be 25-30 years old. Cheapest and best coffee maker one could make. Keep an eye on Amazon Black Friday sale. Best prices I have ever seen. At least they were last year.

We have both as well. The Bonavita is at our farmhouse which we visit a couple of weekends out of the month. Agreed the Technivorm is the best but the Bonavita is a close second. The mocha master is extremely consistent. 197° 100% of the time and that makes the difference. Brew time on 1 L is about 10 seconds faster than the Bonavita. Both are excellent coffee makers though.

Technovorm Moccamaster. It will last her a lifetime and has replacement parts available. Made like a tank.

#BE WARNED Check out posts on r/moccamaster from about this time last year. Literally dozens and dozens if not hundreds of posts of people complaining about getting broken/used moccamaster from Amazon on prime day. This is no fault of MM but rather Amazon’s shitty commingled inventory system and the bad actors who take advantage of it. Clearly someone offloaded a ton of (clearly defective) MM’s on Amazon and sold them as “new - sold and shipped by Amazon.” Which contrary to popular belief is the worst offender of fake/used shit. Proceed with caution, if a deal is too good to be true it probably is…

Glad to hear it! Hopefully others get the same too. Last year was a shit show

Yes. Not optimal for neither taste nor efficiency, but certainly possible. I do it when I'm home alone.

Data (or anecdote) point: Norway is in second place after Finland when it comes to coffee consumption per capita. Most of us are not coffee snobs, but we know the difference between good coffee and not so good. I reckon the Moccamaster is probably one of, if not the, most popular brewers over here. And probably in Finland too, for that matter.

Seconding the Technivorm which makes fast, hot, consistent coffee. It's the best electric drip coffee maker, which I imagine is what you're asking. That said, I slightly prefer the coffee I get from my Chemex, but that's a manual brewer which is a different thing.

10 years strong and still works like the first day I opened it. One tip I have is run your water through a brita before brewing and you will never have to clean your moccamaster for limescale, water deposits etc

I've said it here before and I'll say it again. I bought my first Moccamaster in the early 2000s refurbished on eBay and it lasted into the pandemic, and I did zero maintenance. I bought a new one to replace it a few years ago, and I'm following the recommended maintenance schedule, and I expect it to outlast me. Just wish they made a 12 cup version. Friends and family frequently say it makes close to the best cup of coffee they've ever had and several people have bought one after having coffee at my house. Just my experience, but I'll buy another one if I'm lucky enough to live long enough to need one. Editing upon reflection: Friends and family who love this coffee are not necessarily Coffee People. I mention it because they noticed it was better than their setup at home. I go to a fancy coffee place because it's a great neighborhood spot and I like to get out of the house. The owner told me his home coffee maker is a rando big box Mr. Coffee or whatever and a basic grinder. I've never seen him drink the coffee he makes in the shop. So this is just a reminder to myself and anyone out there that coffee can be highly subjective.

Mine is going on 5 years strong.

I buy roasted coffee beans and grind them myself when I make coffee so that the grounds are as fresh as possible. I brew in a Moccamaster drip brewer. Swedes commonly make drip brew coffee at home. We consume a lot of coffee.

I bought a Mochamaster during Black Friday for 200. It’s hands down the best drip machine I’ve ever owned. I highly recommend watching this Americas Test Kitchen vid on drip machines. It’s very informative. https://youtu.be/sWMOt28Nti0?feature=shared

We went from using moca pots to drip, to presses, to moka pots again, and now a MM. I had to buy an encore to really appreciate it. But I will tell you that you can get a solid drip coffee maker and will get damn near perfect coffee. The reason I bought the MM was the ability to fix it vs buying a new coffee maker if one broke. But it requires science in a way. You have to try multiple grind settings, water levels, coffee beans, and even creams and sugars to fine tune the coffee. But that's kinda the cool part. At first I regretted buy it but now I'm happy. If I could do it again though ....idk. I'd probably get the OXO coffee maker. Just for ease of use.

I totally agree. It will even make a very decent cup of coffee out of the bottom of the barrel pre ground Folgers as well. Consistent water output at the correct temp (and time) is key. Mr coffee starts splitting out water way too cold, and never reaches temp in the 8 minutes or so it takes to brew the pot. Moccamaster on the other hand starts putting out a correctly heated stream of water and brews in about 4 minutes.

Mochamaster is no frills excellent coffee maker. Just one switch and an on/off button. Minimal plastic. Timeless design.

I LOVE my Moccamaster!

i still swear by my technivorm but there’s a lot of options out there. james hoffman has plenty of videos about them.

Technivorn Moccamaster. Hand built in the Netherlands. I’ve had mine for 10 years. Awesome machine. Will fit that budget.

Yep. My mom and dad have had the same one since 2010. Got mine in 2017 when I moved out. Also have a one cupper at work. 9 years of daily use (2-4 cups a day 5 days a week) and still working like it was new. I know it ignores a lot of OP's requirements. But if you want a BIFL coffee maker, you get a Technivorm. It's that simple.

If you don’t mind spending a bit more a Moccamaster is the best filter coffee machine available. It’s also super cool looking so it looks good in pictures and for the aesthetic of a rental.

Bought one on prime day 5 years ago. Best coffee thing besides my scale that I’ve ever purchased. Do it

When my ninja coffee station finally dies I’m so tempted to just get the Moccamaster. I used to do pour overs and french press and just got pressed for time, but I miss good coffee in larger quantities. The Ninja has actually been serving me well for five years, but I’ve coveted Technivorm for two decades

It’s honestly one the best things I have purchased. Would have loved a 50% off but 0 regrets after using it almost everyday for last 4 years.

If all you you want is a big pot of drip, buy a Bona Vita or a Technivorm Paired with a decent grinder (say the Ode Fellow) and you’ve got drip bliss for far less than your KF7 (and you know I love my KF7 as we’ve talked some- but my needs are different than yours)

have used mine daily for 5+ years now. highly recommend

I bought a Moccamaster on Black Friday from Amazon for $179 as it was 50% off. Amazon lost my package but sent a replacement, and 2 months later the lost package arrived on my doorstep. My card was never charged despite Amazon claiming it would be if the original arrived. Sold it on Marketplace for $200. Best Black Friday deal ever.

Woo! Love mine. Got this model but in Dark Blue.

If you want a well built machine that is truly BIFL, then the Technivorm Mochamaster. The thing is like the Oreck XL vacuum in that it hasn’t changed much in 40+ years, but that it’s also simplistic. It’s a one button brewer so no fancy functions, but it brews about a best as you’re going to get from a drip maker. If you get one, I would recommend getting one with a grass carafe instead of the insulated thermal one

Reading it again, it does sound like might mean an espresso machine. A BIFL espresso machine would probably be in the $1000s. Agree the Mochamaster is the best drip machine. I always mean to use mine more, but since it’s just me, the aero press and kettle is my usual go to

Moccamaster is amazing. Read the reviews. I have a green one

Given you said "coffee addict" says he's not necessarly into the nerd-ery of coffee but more just having lots of coffee. I'd also say Technivorm Mokamaster. It's really quality unit and makes excellent, consistent, coffee and will continue to do with for YEARS. Plus it can be serviced and repaired if need be. I'm partial to the vacuum carafe style ones because the hot plate tends to burn the coffee over time unless you're serving a whole pot in one go. Also consider a gift subscription to a coffee subscription service and then he can setup and pick out what coffee type he wants to get.

Keep an eye on OfferUp/Facebook Marketplace, etc for a Techivorm Moccamaster. There are folks who have one and are selling because they got a Keurig? (There is no accounting for taste) I cannot believe how cheap they can be on those places. We have been using one I bought through Craig's List 10 years ago that had been in the bosses private kitchen and was brand new. We have a reverse osmosis water tap and have never even descaled it. The heating element is copper. They are hand made in Holland. The claim to fame of them is time & temperature. The Bonavita matches the time/temp specs for good coffee. They make a model with a timer for automatic starting if you are used to that.

Have no fear in buying used either, as you can buy just about any part directly from Technivorm. Really really awesome machines.

Lordy lordy I went down a rabbit hole on this recently. You can spend a lot of money fast. The unfortunate thing is though, they really don't make completely plastic-free automatic coffee pots. The Ratio Eight is the closest I think. If you are prioritizing zero plastic over anything and everything; you can't go to automatic. You need to use a French Press. Or a Chemex or something. If automatic is the priority, you just need to pick something with *better* plastic. I have a baby. So. Caffeine must be easily, readily available. I needed automatic. I opted for the Technivorm Mochamaster. Sadly it does have plastic. But I trust something manufactured in the Netherlands much more than I trust a Mr. Coffee from Walmart. It's certified to make a damn good cup of coffee and the plastic is supposed to be nontoxic. I also chose the glass carafe in the interest of glass.

Years ago when I wanted to buy a top-notch coffee maker, I consulted Cook’s illustrated. They do not take ads. They are as legit as it gets. They were two machines they recommended, one was the Bonavita for about $150 and the other was the mocha master for $349. I bought the Bonavista. One day I was at a family friends party. The host parents traveled with their mocha master. it was timely since I was getting a little tired of the Bonavita and it wasn’t that good of coffee. He insisted I try the mocha master. One cup and I was hooked. I immediately placed an order online at $349 and don’t regret it not one bit.. For the reduced price than Amazon divided by what a cup of Starbucks coffee would cost you that’s an absolute steal. It makes a far superior cup than anywhere else. Someone proved it to me.

Best coffee I’ve had is with the Mocamaster. Tried for years on cheap or mid price coffee makers that break in 2 years or make shit coffee. I have an encore grinder and I make coffee every day. It was hard for me to spend on the price but I’m hoping it’s the last coffee maker I buy.

Depends on what type of coffee I want. If I want an espresso type of coffee I use my Bialetti mocca pot. If I just wants some normal coffee I use a Moccamaster drip brew machine. I always use beans I grind myself. And obviously beans that suit the type of coffee I’m making. For the espresso I get beans at a local shop for Italian specialties. For the normal coffee I have a weakness for the Swedish brand Zoegas.

Techivorm MoccaMaster.

The quality of the coffee is what makes it makes sense.

Most typical low to mid machine (except for the Moccamaster which costs a lot but still sucks on the dispersion and I'm looking at you Technivorm) has a spray head that just normally sprays water like a faucet. The key is consistent flow and spray of water so it doesnt agitate and distrub the coffee bed. Hence makes for a more cleaner coffee output. I mean yes a lot of drip machines has better temp stability but other factors should be taken into account to produce a better cup. Even the shape of the brewer basket is sometimes been look upon. With pourovers, you can control the flow of water from the kettle. With constant brewing day to day, you will get to easily control your wrist and hand techniques to learn how to control the flow even with shitty kettle spout.

My moccamaster is 23 years old daily use. Just cleaned it up last week. The moccamasters brew at the correct temperature. Try using a thermometer and test the Mr. Coffee as the water comes out to find out how hot the water is. There's a big difference in coffee taste brewed at different temps.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record… Moccamaster. Plug it into a smart plug that turns on 10 minutes before you wake up It makes a damn fine cup of coffee and will be easier to use in this configuration than a lot of programmable machines

Technivorm for me. 5yr warranty, made in holland and it’s good at one thing, making coffee at SCA specs. Retired my precision brewer and never looked back.

Technivorm. Very basic and they sell replacement parts. Will last forever.

My moccamaster arrived new and in perfectly new condition.

Technivorm is the way to go..

Technivorm. Ours is going on 15 years old.

The MoccaMaster is the best coffee maker ever. Mine is 11 years old and no problems.

Mocamaster as long as you live close to seal level. They suck at altitude.

You might get him interested in Mocamaster. It doesn’t have a timer, in fact it doesn’t have anything other than the heat and drip function but it absolutely makes the best coffee ever. His engineer side might get turned on by how good the coffee is. We’ve had 2 in 30 years and the company didn’t really think it was necessary for us to replace the first one.

It’s pricey but it actually does make the best coffee. It holds the water a bit longer and at a higher temperature so more subtle flavors are extracted. For someone with an engineer background it’s appealing because it’s very efficient, it lasts forever and it does exactly what it’s supped to do with zero frills. Personally I get that people LOVE French presses but those tend to make the coffee too dark for me.

I hate the spray pattern of technivorms. Too much form,.not enough function. It's a tank, but it's a bit crude. I like Bonavita spray heads much better.

Mocca-Master. or the Ratio Six. The coffee is so consistent it’s boring. Also any of the industrial Bunn batch brewers…they’re so good and so pricey.

This is my fave too since they make great coffee and are completely rebuildable (and have been since the 70s). OP, if he’s a buy it for life guy, this is the play. If he’s more into fancy automated features like bloom and being able to set his brew profiles then something like the Aiden is the way to go.

OP Also said top quality coffee. OP did not indicate budget I'd have to say MocaMaster or the Breville Precision Brew. I have a great coffee maker and I'll say it's likely buy it for life. It's a 22 year old Cuisinart with a toggle switch. It just keeps working, add your coffee , water and boom coffee that's tasty. Coffee makers made "today", last year, two years ago--no one can speak to the longevity--so MocaMaster's been around --probably the most well regarded machine and easy to use. Breville Precision--has a feature where you just push one button.

For drip you want a technivorm. Manual espresso a Lelit. Automatic espresso either a decent or a jura.

Idk how this sub feels about the Simply Good Coffee brewer (and I don’t give a fuck this is my opinion lol) but I bought it on Black Friday last year and I loved the results. I did return it because I was able to buy a Mocca Master on Amazon for only $50 more than the Simply Good and I couldn’t pass it up. The Mocca Master is a much higher quality machine and will last a lifetime but the results from the Simply Good machine actually, in my opinion, were better. So if you don’t have the funds for a Mocca Master, don’t let these fools peer pressure you into thinking your only choice is a Mocca Master. I think you should consider the Simply Good machine. It’s comparable in a lot of ways and will give you actually great results. I can not advise as to how long it will last you though.

Just realized this is for your mom, and not yourself. Regardless, my point still stands. It functions exactly like a Mocca Master so would be great for anyone looking for a simple brewer.

Ok. So I pulled the trigger on the moccamaster. Any recommendations on getting the most out of it with some quality coffee at not outrageous prices?