Moccamaster (Technivorm) - KBG

I received a brand new matt black Moccamaster. Based on some of the comments on here I looked it over very carefully. It looks pristine. My reaction probably will get me kicked off the Island. First, the coffee. Following the enclosed recipe, I hand ground 41 grams of very good coffee (Perc Wilton Benitez Colombia) in a Pietro Pro at 7.5. I added 6 cups of water. The coffee was very nice. Maybe not as bright as a pour over but for a larger group really solid. Second, impressions of the machine. It obviously works well. My only surprise was how thin the plastic and glass was. It did not have the requisite build quality its retail price would expect. Granted I did not pay retail, but it just seems cheep to me. That said, my wife hates all the crazy coffee stuff I do and will really like a nice pot of drip coffee. Cheers.

I have a moccamaster kbg with a hot plate and glass pot. When its finished brewing I just turn it off.. coffee stays hot for a while nu just sitting in the pot with his friends, they keep eachother warm 🥰

I also got this in matte black for Black Friday for $160 and was underwhelmed. For $160 I’m keeping it because I like how it looks and it does make a better cup than my outgoing $80 cuisinart but that feels much higher quality and is significantly heavier than the moccamaster. I agree that the carafe feels extremely delicate and fragile, I thought at this price there would be less plastic but the whole exterior is very thin soft/pliable plastic. Everything about it feels fragile, and looking at old reviews on YouTube the devices seem to have more “weight” to them and just look nicer so I wouldn’t doubt corners were cut to make this price range for the bulk of prime day orders. If I pulled the trigger when this was at normal price I would have returned it for sure, even if it was over $200 I think I still would have. The coffee is good and if it last at least the 5 years of the warranty i won’t complain past this post but for those that have a older model would be cool to see a comparison of weights between the base units and the carafes to see if less and cheaper/thinner materials were used because there is no way I can believe anyone who paid over $300 for this could Justify that price.

Moccamaster is amazing. Read the reviews. I have a green one

I think this posts nails it. I looked at them in person and knew what to expect on the flimsy ancillary components. At $340 I was not a buyer but at $200 i was because I like how it looks. It brews fine coffee, not any better than the SCA certified Bunn HB it replaced but just as good and its more fun to use every morning which made it worth the extra $60 bucks (but barely).

The moccamaster retains a few ounces of water in the boiler everytime you use it. I don’t see how the tank and boiler are any dryer than any other coffee maker. I had a Bunn HB which has a tank that doubles as a boiler at the top and is fed by gravity to the coffee funnel directly below it. That one would empty all but a few drops. Actually, that Bunn has a much more elegant operating design than the MM. But I was bored and wanted something different and cooler looking after it got taken out by lightning.

I would not buy it if you are making less than 20 oz (600ml) each use. You can do it but it’s not really designed to make optimal brew less than that without grinding pretty fine and you may or may not like the results. As for questions about build, yes the boiler is well made and reliable. Unfortunately this is somewhat offset by relatively cheap plastic ancillary parts. However, with care and hand washing they should last and specific problems mostly fall under the category of annoyance considering how expensive it is. As far as longevity, I have had good but less expensive ones last until I got tired of them and the plastic brew parts got so tainted with old coffee taste that I was done with it. All these parts are easily replaced on a moccamaster but they cost as much as a whole cheap coffeemaker. The main reason people think cheaper ones don’t last long is because they never descale them or they spill coffee into the reservoir and generally they get all gross. The moccamaster design helps reduce the coffee in the reservoir problem and when people spend $350 on a coffeemaker they tend to take care of it better. The coffee will be better coming from the moccamaster due to some subtle design factors but if you are not a coffee aficionado you may not find the difference overwhelming…unless you are coming from a Keurig.

It’s like a lot of things. On a straight dollar and cents basis you probably can’t. You could buy 12 cheap coffee makers for the price of a moccamaster and even if they only last five years each you would be good for the next 60 years. In my experience they will last ten years if you take care of them. If you’re over 20 or 30 years old, you’re probably good. But if you value getting up in the morning to make coffee in something that you like the way it looks and it looks and feels like a quality piece of equipment, there is a certain value in that. That’s why I think it’s a shame the external plastic parts are not up to par with the rest of it. But some people don’t even notice that.

The moccamaster works the same way as any other drip coffee maker. If you were happy with half pots with your ninja brewer you should be happy with the moccamaster. Just make it the way you would with it. Most of us here are coffee nerds. Just be aware…you say you have a Ninja and it’s put away. So I don’t know why you don’t want to use it but if you are expecting earth shatteringly better coffee you will probably be disappointed. If it’s just a fashion thing for the kitchen you will likely be pleased.

The water heating part of it is better quality than a ninja but that’s mainly going to get you longevity and durability. The ancillary plastic parts that hang on the side are not going to seem like a step up. Most Ninjas are fairly well reviewed and if it gets the water into the brew basket at 195 to 205F you probably won’t notice a huge difference.

There is nothing different about the moccamaster that requires using ground coffee any more than any other drip coffee maker. Drip brewers are extremely simple machines. They just heat water and drip it over the grounds. There is nothing magical about the Moccamaster that makes it different. It just gets the water good and hot (195 to 205F).

Probably you won’t notice much difference. I wouldn’t describe it at all as fancy. It is about as basic as you can get. It does have a nice retro vibe aesthetic and that’s what most people like (including myself). If that is what is attracting you to it and it’s worth whatever you have to pay then go for it. You mentioned KGBV Select. That makes me think you are in Europe. If so, then the pre-ground coffee available may be too fine. However, if that is what you have been using in the Kitchen aid and its a drip brewer it will work just as well in the Moccamaster. Its not ideal in either one but it wouldn’t be any worse in the Moccamaster. Also, if you are in Europe you can get replacement parts for it. In the USA we cannot. Also it costs around $350 in the USA. Probably not as premium for you. But back to your question, drip brewers don’t really vary that much. The main difference is the better SCA certified brewers will get the coffee at the right temperature from the beginning which makes a better cup. But honestly, a lot of non-enthusiast coffee drinkers won’t even notice the difference.

I have one and only brew about 680ml of coffee daily / about 23oz. We have the model with the smaller glass pot that is switchable between a full and partial pot. Has been going strong brewing every single day the last few years.

Love the thermal too! I got the 10 cup version which is glass on the inside. I do think it improves taste!

I find it hard to disagree. I bought one second hand for £80 and for that price it's justifiable for the aesthetic (orange!) but it's hardly the last word in coffee perfection. Automatic coffee makers are basically the lowest rung, so it's never going to set the world alight against basically any other method. I'm into buy for life and I love retro tech though, so it's staying and I love it.

We're at 19 years on our MM Clubline. We needed to replace the slide mechanism this year on the drip basket, and MM had the parts, online, priced cheaply with free shipping. Other than that, all original. Use RO/filtered water and these things never die.

I have a glass carafe version and have never had any issues with the plastic parts or pouring ability. There was a Hoffman video lately where he said that in his opinion plastic is a good material for making coffee machine parts, it does not require much pre-heating etc. It's an awesome machine for people who like filter coffee and want a low hassle experience. I've used it virtually every day for 4 and a half years and it has been flawless every time, not finicky at all. I have a smart plug on mine so I can load it up in advance and switch it on from bed. I am normally brewing 45g coffee to 750ml of water which makes 2 large mugs, I sometimes brew 30g coffee with 500ml of water to get a mug and a half which also works well. I can also brew iced coffee by grinding a bit finer and doing 45g coffee, 300g ice in the carafe, 450ml water, for this I let a little water into the ground coffee, switch the machine off and let it bloom/steep for 30s, then put the carafe in with the ice in and run the rest of the water through. Works great. If it broke tomorrow I would get it repaired as it still under warranty, if it was stolen though I would not hesitate to replace with exactly the same model.

Just on the timer feature, I have my Moccamaster connected to a smart plug which I can automate in various ways or switch on demand. I usually switch it on from my Apple Watch whilst cooling down from a morning run so the coffee is freshly brewed when I arrive home. I can also run an automation from my phone that when my alarm goes off it starts brewing etc.