KBGV

We tried the Moccamaster and the amount of coffee recommended was nuts. From there went to Ratio. Really nice coffee but the thing has been repaired twice and now it is not functioning again. The backup for the Ratio is a Fellows. If it were up to me, I would do either a pour over or French press and not spend $$$ on an expensive coffee maker. Do buy freshly roasted beans, grind in a burr grinder and store beans in a vacuum canister.

**Moccamaster KBGV**, certain colors dip regularly under $250, even under $200 (maybe wait for Black Friday?) Plus a good **grinder.** Baratza Encore is good. Baratza Forte (with steel burr) if you want to splurge. Baratza isn't the most durable thing in market, but IMO is best for BIFL because they have decades of history providing spare parts readily available, cheaply priced, and user replaceable. The Encore, for instance, has a plastic burr holder that is cheap and easy to replace, and designed to break first if a stone goes in the grinder, before more expensive parts are damaged.

It has got to be one of the most BIFL items that plugs into a wall and manufactured in 2025. The glass carafe can obviously break if dropped, and can be replaced at reasonable cost. Of course it will need a little bit of maintenance running cleaning cycles, more often if you have hard water. And it makes great coffee. I still make a V60 pour over when I get a real special coffee, but for my "daily driver" specialty coffee, Moccamaster does a great job. It's worth the \~$350 it usually costs, but every couple months it goes down to $250 and under $200 a couple times a year (Prime day and black friday?)

Get a Mr. Coffee. Buy it at Walmart or in person to save over Amazon. I have two mocca masters, and two KitchenAid espresso machines (kf7). For coffee the mr. coffee taste good and is quick and easier to use than other ones. If you want to spring for the moccamaster probably wait for the amazon sale, think they have one in July or something? But black friday will also see about 100 taken off.

I was going to post this as well. It's such a non-issue with the lack of timer because it brews SO FAST.

I would remove the carafe for the beginning of the brew to allow more of an immersion brew, and reinsert/release the coffee after 3 or 4 minutes. The Zutto is literally half the size of the Moccamaster, so it makes sense that it would handle smaller amounts more easily. Obviously this is a hack because the KBGV is not designed for single cups.

Personally, I think the KBT is the best choice. It can brew 16oz and you can brew directly into a mug if you'd like. And when guests come over you can easily do the full 40 oz. I love my KBT, and I've read lots of mixed results with the KBGV.