Moccamaster (Technivorm) - KBT

Yeah I bought us one about a year ago. Got a great deal so I'm happy with it. But if I paid full price I would feel let down on the quality/sturdyness of the whole thing.

Coming from a Ratio 6 owner who has used the OXO: Get the MoccaMaster. The Aiden is an incredibly cool piece of tech, but reviews suggest it isn't ready for prime time due to the software being buggy and unreliable.

Happy to help! Again, I have heard that the newer models do not suffer from the same issues (I have a very early Ratio 6 from 2021) and I can say that the coffee is VERY good, so I wouldn't fault you for going with the Ratio. I will also concede that their customer service has been very good in the past when I've needed it, but their response this time around really soured me on the whole thing. I am just at a point in my life where I really value longevity, repairability, and build quality over many other things, which is why I am not looking at the Aiden despite it tickling the part of my brain that loves fiddling with settings and software. Conversely, we have a MoccaMaster KBT at the bar/cafe where I work here in PDX and it's been absolutely bomb-proof brewing a full batch of coffee every few hours from 5am to 9pm with daily cleaning/monthly descaling. It has never given any of us a single problem. So, that's probably what I'll end up getting myself if and when the Ratio finally craps out.

During Amazon Prime Days, I saw the KBT for $160.

I have both a Ninja coffee machine and two Moccamasters. The Moccamaster makes far better coffee.

The last year I used a Moccamaster KBT I stirred as part of my process. I divided the total water charge into two parts. Closed the basket ouput. Added the first charge and would stir if needed to manage the bloom. Drain the first charge, close the output and repeat for the second half minus any stirring. The divide into two parts is because the basket wasn't large enough to hold four cups. However for the first few months of ownership I just dumped in coffee and water and pressed the switch. In the beginning of the brew I would run with the basket in the half open position and rotate the basket to and fro (you can do this with the KBT) for a uniform bloom and wetting and to get increased contact time. I loved that machine but I eventually switched to Aeropress after retirement.

Yes Technivorm needs to rethink the Moccamaster shower but I **never** had dry spots on my KBT. Ultimately I switched to an overly complex brew process but not because of dry spots.

If you want a simple, durable drip machine, the Technivorm KBT is a good choice. Ours is several years old, about four 12-oz cups a day, and an annual descaling. The KBT comes with the movable filter basket (if you like to encourage more even wetting), and no hot plate, just an on/off switch. I believe the double wall thermal carafe we got separately is now standard.

I'm curious why you wanted a KBGV in the first place? The feel and fragility of the carafe has been something I've seen repeated online for a long time. And the abundance of plastic parts is also a commonly known factor. Moccamaster has lots of competition these days, so I'm wondering why you chose the KBGV? It seems like another brand would be more up your alley. Personally, I chose my KBT because I love the look of it, and I also love the durability of the boiler and the easily replaceable parts. I read and watched tons of coffeemaker reviews before deciding on the KBT and I saw that most coffee snobs recommend a thermal carafe over glass on a hot plate. I was expecting a simple, durable workhorse and that's what I got with the KBT. Plus I've had fantastic interactions with customer service.

I adore my KBT and it tops the list of several reputable testing reviews.

The models with a manual filter basket and no hot plate (KBT, KBTS) would have been a better choice then. You can do smaller amounts and brew right into the cup with those models.

I have a 15 year old moccamaster. It is indeed made in the Netherlands (Amerongen) makes a stellar cup of coffee and is a buy it for life item.

I'm aware, they asked where I bought it and that is indeed where I bought it 15 years ago. I think you can get it at the gourmet warehouse in Vancouver but I'm not sure what models they carry mine has the tall metal carafe.

Sixthing. Mine is almost 20 and works like a charm all I've had to do is d'escale and replace the seal on the lid of the metal carafe a couple of times

I’ve recently got mine. I opted for the thermal carafe version. I truly enjoy doing the steep and the medium-slow drip. I turn the black part to keep it even as it drains. I’ve never imagined caring so much about my coffee maker, but the KBT is the one. Indeed, where was this my whole life?

We have the KBT and don’t do anything special to our brew cycle, and it’s the best coffee we’ve had. Sometimes I close the brew basket for the first minute to allow the grounds to fully saturate, and I always brew it with the basket half open instead of fully open. No stirring ever. Easy peasy. We do grind our beans fresh, and I do think that makes a big difference as well and is more work.

That’s the model we have. Yes, the brew basket can be closed, half open, or fully open. Just make sure not to close it and then walk away and overflow it (done that….). We have an older version of the Fellow Ode grinder that we love, but the Baratza Encore is a really popular (maybe the most popular) recommendation. Make sure you have a little kitchen scale as well to do weights. Nothing fancy for that.

I recently got the Moccamaster KBT and make a half pot. This fills my giant mug for at home days or my travel mug. Love it so far!

KBT on sale at Amazon, more than $100 off. Purchased ours 3 weeks ago. Wanted to go as non toxic as possible but still coffee waiting for me in morning. Our MM on analog timer. Grind my beans night before in Magic Bullet, like I did for our Black and Decker and predecessors. Put water in tank. Turn on button. Check analog timer. Hour before I get up coffee brews. Have tweaked beans a bit. Use same amount of water as before. Use inexact spoonfuls of beans, little bit more on final spoonful. Make sure that coffee filter is soldered on seams away from hole in brew basket. Have found the 1/2 setting works for me. Best home brew I have had. Of course I spent about 4 times as much as any previous coffee maker.

Short answer yes. After decades of the usuals, Mr. Coffee, B&D, Hamilton Beach, wife sent me down the non-toxic rabbit hole. Upon review went with Moccamaster. I am not alert enough to do pour overs or even the Moccamaster routine in the morning. Set up night before with unit turned on, plugged into analog timer in an outlet for an hour before I get up. In the morning the best home brewed coffee I have ever made. Still using my Starbucks Cafe Verona whole bean, ground in Magic Bullet night before. Same water filtered through frig water filter. Non toxic, well less toxic depending on who you read, better tasting, though it was not a goal of the rabbit hole, coffee. Yes it was expensive. If it lasts 10 years, will pay for itself.

1 month in with KBT. Enjoy!

1 month in with Moccamaster. Was sent down the non-toxic coffeemaker by my wife, an infrequent coffee drinker. I have struggled in recent years with quality of more common brand, Hamilton Beach, Black Decker, Cuisinart, etc. Tried percolator, pour over, etc. I still wanted my coffee ready first thing in morning. So purchased an analog timer, Moccamaster brews at prescribed time, setup water and coffee night before. Prefer thermal pots. MM are not cheap, 5 yr warranty. At least not putting BPA plastics in my body every morning now. [https://livingthenourishedlife.com/best-non-toxic-coffee-makers/](https://livingthenourishedlife.com/best-non-toxic-coffee-makers/)

Love my KBT. Personally have never liked hot plates. Always owned makers with thermal or stainless steel carafes.