KBTS

I have the 1 liter Moccamaster and love it. It’s like a hand pour over but you can do the puzzles while it brews. I see they make a small one that looks very cute.

I like the KBTS. It's reservoir is 1L, and it has the select switch brew basket, so you can make half pots which are 16 oz (enough for a single person)

The "cups" measurement on the Moccamasters is very small. My wife and I split a 6 cup pot every morning. That means each of us has about 3 small teacups worth. Probably 1.5 large mugs each. So a full pot is about 3 large mugs.

The other thing about the KBTS is that it uses the thermos carafe and has no hotplate, so you could technically buy 2 carafes and make 2 pots back to back if you're hosting like 12 people

>The only moccamaster I would use to make less than .6 liters is the one cup. The full size brewers flow way too fast to get decent extraction with such a small amount of water. Would you say this about the MMs that have the select switch on the brew basket that controls the water flow?

Yeah that makes sense. My standpoint is that I have a hard time justifying buying a $300 coffee maker that only makes single serve. But if the carafe brewers can make pretty good small batches then that's an added bonus. In my experience the smaller batches of the carafes brewers are good, but I'm also no coffee expert.

Neither. Get the KBTS. It's the smallest model with a thermal carafe. It makes up to 1 L (32 oz) which is perfect for 4 people to share (if you ever host your family or some friends). Because it's the thermal model, you can take the carafe out and put a travel mug or thermos or mug underneath and brew directly into that like the Cup One can. This model also does not have the auto-shutoff valve, and so you don't need to modify the brew basket to accommodate other vessels to brew in. It has the select brew basket, so you can make great half pots. Moccamaster recommends you make at least a half pot, but I make 8 oz cups with it all the time and the only downside is they are a bit less consistent. I've never had a bad cup though when making single cups. But 8 oz is not a lot for coffee. If you drink 1 big mug a day you probably drink closer to 14 oz, which is practically a half-pot anyway. It's objectively the best model and I will die on this hill.

Yep. There is a sliding switch on the side of the brew basket. It has three settings: Full pot, half pot, and closed. On the full pot setting, the brew basket permits the maximum amount of flow of water out of the brew basket. On the half pot setting, the brew basket slows the flow of water. Moccamaster says this improves the taste when making half pots. The closed setting closes the valve and immediately stops all water from flowing (including drips). This is a purely mechanical switch and it does not affect the brewer itself or its electronics. [This haphazard and awkward video](https://youtu.be/6Cj-STkFNOo) might help show you how it works. Edit: so for your situation, you would just brew a half pot and select the half pot setting on the brew basket switch. You could brew this directly into a travel container or mug or into the carafe. Whatever you want.

That's kind of personal to you. It makes great coffee, and is repairable with a long warranty. It's built in the Netherlands and is built to last. However, in North America, parts are not available or supplied by MM, and so the functional DIY repairability goes down a lot. It's also very expensive in North America, whereas it is much more budget friendly in Europe.

>Or you could buy a mochamaster where everything can be replaced and last you a lifetime This is not free. It costs about $100 to send it in to moccamaster to have it fixed.

Replacement parts are not available worldwide. I'm in North America and you can't get most of the parts here if I recall. You can buy a replacement basket or carafe from the MM website. But you can't get the switch, or copper burner element, or any of the other internals to my understanding.

I totally agree which is why I bought it. My parents just bought a Keurig and it showed up to their house and had a problem with it. They spent hours on calls with customer service and finally they just told him to throw in the garbage and sent them a new one. No thanks.

>Yes, it is expensive, but it isn’t made from cheap plastic parts that will break on you in a year. Except it kinda is. Lots of people seem to have problems with their carafes which are not under warranty. I see issues with hot plates breaking and switches breaking too. The core unit itself, your right, is very durable. All of which can be fixed either under warranty or for a fee.

You should buy the Moccamaster if you want the following: 1. A coffee maker that makes really good coffee 2. A coffee maker which, if it breaks, you can send in to be fixed for ~100 $. If neither of those things appeal to you, especially considering the price, I'd suggest you keep looking. No ninja or Keurig is ever going to make coffee as good as a brewer that meets [the SCA Home Brewer Certification. ](https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer)

Nothing lol. It's a pleasant coffee maker to use, sure, but it's not a fucking roller coaster. In North America, moccamasters are frankly overpriced and undersupported. For $450 you get a machine that makes coffee just as good as another $200 machine, but that has a 5 year warranty over half the machine, and no warranty over the other half. Parts are unavailable if you want to do the repairs yourself.

The models with a manual filter basket and no hot plate (KBT, KBTS) would have been a better choice then. You can do smaller amounts and brew right into the cup with those models.

I agree with all of this - I would just point out that the KBTS has a fully stainless steel carafe while the current KBT has a glass lined carafe. Personally, I prefer my old, fully stainless KBT from a few years ago before they switched to glass. But for anyone deciding between the 2 machines, this might be helpful info.

I use mine a couple of times a week. I can’t brew as flavorful cup of coffee as I can using my V60, so I use more commercial beans in my Moccamaster and use my “better beans” for my V60. The Moccamaster brews a consistent and nice cup of coffee. Better than other cups I’ve tried from drip machines and certainly better than Keurig (which my wife uses). I have the KBTS version. I will close the drip stop to kind of replicate a bloom. I also will gently stir to get more even saturation. Then I open it up and don’t worry about the rest. But if you don’t like what comes out then you should return it.

I bought the KBTS a couple of weeks ago (on sale, but more than Black Friday price) as our 5 year old Jura e8 spring a leak and I had to order some parts. I wasn’t sure I could fix it, so I ordered the MM. Well, I was able to fix the Jura, but the MM makes much better plain coffee (I use the MM grinder at about 5.5 on dial). I’ve had to work on a few things with the Jura over the years and wanted a simple way to make a great pot of coffee. The carafe keeps it warm/hot for a couple of hours, it is simple to use and has a great warranty. Overall I like having both.

I bought the KBTS a couple of weeks ago (on sale, but more than Black Friday price) as our 5 year old Jura e8 spring a leak and I had to order some parts. I wasn’t sure I could fix it, so I ordered the MM. Well, I was able to fix the Jura, but the MM makes much better plain coffee (I use the MM grinder at about 5.5 on dial). I’ve had to work on a few things with the Jura over the years and wanted a simple way to make a great pot of coffee. The carafe keeps it warm/hot for a couple of hours, it is simple to use and has a great warranty. Overall I like having both.