Ratio - Ratio Six

The Moccamaster is a fine auto drip coffeemaker but another one that is SCA certified and about the same price is the Ratio Six...quality through and through and a flat bottom brew basket...it has auto bloom which the Moccamaster lacks. It makes very very good tasting coffee once you experiment and get your optimal coffee to water ratio and grind setting.

Ratio Six! SCA approved! Coffee is HOT! Expensive but solid quality build and automatic bloom.

If you’re in the US, go find a local TJ Maxx or Marshall’s. They typically have Breville Precision Brewers for on sale for $179. I actually got one for $89 recently. Any of those on your list will be perfectly fine though. I like the OXO stuff for the money, but if you can wait on a moccamaster sale you’d be in good shape. It’s not my favorite brewer at MSRP (I much prefer the Breville precision, the Ratio 6, and the Fellow Aiden—all of which I’ve owned), but if you can get it around $200 it’s great.

The biggest thing is temperature stability, as well as being at a good starting temp in the first place. Also, it’s super easy with a pour over to ensure all the grounds are getting properly saturated. Lots of machines struggle with this in particular, especially cheaper ones. There are definitely machines you can buy that are as good as pour over. Ratio 6, Technivorm Moccamaster (although don’t like its water dispersion), Fellow Aiden, etc. There’s more, but those are 3 I’d trust any day.

It’s really solid. There are things about other brewers I like more, but it brews dang good coffee. The water dispersion is why I stuck with it over the moccamaster. I had fits with 2 different ones just not saturating the bed consistently well enough. Have no problems out of the Ratio, though.

The basket itself is also plastic on the ratio, as with most others. I don’t particularly share your concern with plastic, although I completely understand it. The internals are more significant than anything else as that’s where the water is either hot or being heated. But I will say that the Ratio 6 is a wonderful machine in my opinion, and what I currently use at home.

If you’re using a good machine and grinder there’s really no quality difference whatsoever once you’re dialed in. Drip and pour over are conceptually the same thing, it’s just a matter of if you wanna do it yourself or not. I make pour overs for smaller weekend or evening cups, batch/drip for mornings before work to save time and brew larger cups. Using a Fellow Aiden currently, which has been great but also have the Breville Precision (also great) and have had the Ratio 6 and Moccamaster previously.

My ratio six makes great coffee and has options for different carafes.

Same, imo when i bought it 3 years ago it was basically moccamaster vs ratio 6 And seemed like the ratio made a slightly better cup of coffee But its Chinese made entirely 47 different doodads and electronical bits to fail Vs the tank with quality parts in the important areas

Ratio was a massive disappointment for me. The water never dispersed evenly and it always pooled towards the back of the spout.

Ratio 6 owner *(bf of owner)*: Not impressed. Just returned the first unit because paint started peeling off. New unit seems to produce a slightly better cup, but nothing special. Build quality overall is lacking. Okay for a drip machine, but comparing it to pourover in any fashion is a stretch.

If you care at all about hot water plastic exposure, I don’t see any other option but the Ratio 6 (swapping the carafe for glass) or the Ratio 8. (The ratio 6, which I have, also does make very good coffee)

I was going to update this but got delayed. I ended up ordering a unit from Breville (took 9 days to receive), but decided to return it after opening the box and looking at the parts. The showerhead is silicone, and is also super small with just a few holes spread about 3/4" in total ... so it blooms by saturation, filling the basket in water vs. wetting the grounds evening from the showerhead. The hot water path appears to be all plastic up through the stem and over to the showerhead ... so not what I was looking for. For what it's worth I ordered a Ratio Six with the glass carafe bundle directly from Ration (another 9 day wait). After using that for the past week with different options (thermal vs glass carafe, different filters, etc.) we found that the Ratio glass carafe with the Chemex circle filter and using the heat shield makes an awesome 8 cups of dark roast. Also avoids any plastic from the hot water onward, so pleased with our final upgrade.

Depending on how much you want to fuss over coffee, either Aiden or Ratio would be my recommendation.

I have a 6 and 4 I like them both for simple batch brew. It has a nice look, there are some quirks of course but I am not mad at it. I also have an entire coffee lab with every other brewer I may need. Temp adjustment is the only thing I wish it had.

I bought a secondhand ratio six and brew it into the chemex ratio sells. Definitely a lot to be desired wrt the brew quality ( no comparison to pour over by hand), but Im very happy that it’s a non plastic brew path (Excepting the reservoir)

Mocca-Master. or the Ratio Six. The coffee is so consistent it’s boring. Also any of the industrial Bunn batch brewers…they’re so good and so pricey.

You can swap the flat plastic basket and thermal carafe on the 6 for the ceramic cone and thermal carafe from the 8 - the ratio 6 carafe is garbage, so I recommend that upgrade anyway. The moccamaster is mostly glass/metal after the boiler, except for the (again) basket. Apparently with the thermal carafe version, the ceramic Ratio dripper works well too, per [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Moccamaster/s/NSHWOBpbbZ). Edited to fix the fact that apparently I forgot how to hyperlink.