BETAFPV - Air75

betafpv air75. 65 will be hard to fly outside when theres wind

Get the air75. U can fly it better outside. Its fun to fly it around inside too. Sure, the 65 will make it feel like u have more space compare to when flying air75. But what u can do is too throttle cut the air75 to around 75-80% so its not as "strong" compare to when its at 100%. Try it, its fun https://preview.redd.it/8qg6d1mf0qoe1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1950a28c4ddb20c8589495e1bda494b46b79fb80 I fly this air75 around the legs lol

Slight counter-arguments: Beginner doesn't mean cheap. Of course it naturally makes sense to go for cheap on the thing that you are going to fly around and inevitably crash and break, but for the goggles, it may be a better choice to invest in a premium set of analogue goggles. You get better vision and should you want to exit the hobby if you decide it isn't for you, you're still able to sell them with very little depreciation as there are many people who've purchased cheap goggles that are looking to upgrade. Buying a premium radio isn't going to enhance too much of your experience at the start, so I'd agree with your choice, but the goggles will, so while the ev800d's are certainly a good choice on the cheaper end, looking at something like the Skyzone O4X or Pros may be worth going for. Alternatively, one might consider investing in the HDZero goggles with a full analogue setup as this will then give them options to fly HDZero in the future without any additional large purchases, or another option could be to get the DJI Goggles V2 (which are incredibly cheap on ebay), getting the BDI adapter and an analogue module, and then having the option to fly any DJI O3 quad (again without purchases). Analogue on any of these goggles is significantly better than the EV800D's. Indoor tinywhoops I'd also recommend the Air65 at this time. I'd argue that it isn't durable enough, but this is offset by the cost (it's really cheap!) and even if you opted to buy a more durable 65mm (which would probably fly worse and be heavier therefore crash harder), you're still better off just buying the air65 and if it does suffer a catastrophic failure, then buying a new one isn't too bad. Outdoors however, I'd probably recommend getting the Meteor75 Pro. While the Air75 is newer, lighter and probably flies slightly better, the Meteor75 Pro is a fantastic quad, more durable (in my opinion) and the package often comes with a couple of bats, a 1S charger (and more importantly voltage checker), and a few other bits and pieces. The Meteor75 pro can take significant hits and I'd also say that repairing it is easier. The most common issue with the 75Pro is the antenna getting knocked out of the little heatshrink on the VTX and then getting disconnected. I think this is probably a better trade-off than the UFL connector issues that the Air75 has, as well as the canopy being... well... one of those. Maybe they've fixed the UFL issues or maybe they haven't, but still, if I was starting again I'd go for the Meteor75 Pro over the Air75. The only difference would be if I planned to fly both inside and out with it, then I'd go with the Air75. But yeah, to be clear, there's absolutely nothing wrong with your suggestions. They are solid choices!

I have an avata 2, and also recently got an Air75. Super maneuverable and the bad video quality doesn’t bug me in the moment. Air 75, radiomaster pocket, and some cheap analog goggles sets you back about 300 bucks. Digital tiny whoops are heavier and don’t handle as well I’ve found.

I fly air65 indoors. I think I went with Air75 as it’s lighter and not marketed as a beginner drone really. I felt that I’d spent enough time in the sim and wanted something that’s as zippy as possible.

5 inc drones are terrifying to fly for a beginner. I got a Nazgûl eco for my first fpv drone and I crashed 4 times on my first day and couldn’t remotely hold an altitude. And that’s with 9 hours in a simulator. Several months later I got an air 75 (although if I could choose again I would get the 65) and I have put way more hours into it than my 5 inch. You may want a lot of power and stuff, but for learning, a tiny whoop will get you more hours and make you better at flying for a newbie.

A 3D printed frame isn't really going to be cost effective for smaller drones and not suitable enough for larger FPV drones. But it could be a fun exercise so go for it if you want to and have the time. If you have zero RC equipment there are two paths 1. Buy an all in one kit, RC transmitter, goggles and fov drone. The emax tinyhawk2 is a great place to start. It will cost less than a 5" (as in 5 inch diameter props) racing or FPV drone and it will let you practice indoors without injury or property damage. 2. If you want to spend more and are planning on having a few drones in the future you can buy a proper RC transmitter like Jumper T16 or something with team blacksheeps crossfire protocol for extra long range. Then you can also buy much nicer (and $$$) goggles than what comes in the tinyhawk2 kit and pick whatever drone you want to start with. I still HIGHLY recommend starting with a "tiny whoop" which are 2" props or smaller and typically have full propellor guards. A 5" drone can literally take out an eye or a window before you even know what happened. Shameless plug for my local FPV shop rotorvillage.ca Good luck and have fun!

Great recommendations all around, but I would say spend a bit more and invest in good goggles if you know you will stick to this hobby medium-to-long term. I tried two different low-end cheap box goggles from friends and it made me hesitant to get into analog (started with walksnail). But based on SchizoFPV's recommendation, I got myself a skyzone 04O pro with lumenier axii 2 omni/patch (RHCP) and it makes me want to fly analog everyday! Comfortable, portable, easy to use, and decent DVR (compared to the box goggles). You pay a premium up front but its worth it. I also have the radiomaster pocket and LOVE it. Will get the AG01 gimbles soon to upgrade the sticks. I have all three of the betafpv air65, air75, and meteor75 Pro. They are all AWESOME, and each serve a specific purpose. Air65 is incredibly precise and agile indoors (lower the cam angle and add expo to the rates), air75 is a raaaapid boi and soo much fun doing trippy spins around city architecture, and the meteor75 Pro is a freestyle juggernaut that I cannot wait to dive skyscrapers with come spring time. Don't want to turn this into a shameless self-promotional plug, but if you're curious about the 04O dvr quality and those quads, you can see on my IG page: [https://www.instagram.com/ksauce.fpv](https://www.instagram.com/ksauce.fpv)

Why no tinywhoop? I also fly in Austria with my meteor 65 pro (mostly indoor) and my mobula 8 (only outdoor). It‘s perfect and not even close to 250g.

An air 75 with aftermarket Happymodel 19000kv motors may give you 7 minutes of cruising

I bought a Neo to start with. Learned and crashed a lot. Got an air75. And been hooked ever since. I don’t even fly the Neo anymore lol

I got the air75 Rn and I have no complaints, it's been an absolute blast flying it around. I'm newer to fpv but I got about 2-3 hours worth of flight in the air75 and 6-7 hours in the simulator, the air75 was super easy to hook up to the radio pocket and beta flight is such a breeze to navigate, I got everything connected and setup in about 30mins to an hour. Note: my opinion is very biased towards the air75 but to be honest whichever one you pick, I'm sure you're gonna love it. Have fun flying 🪽.

Bnf kits are trash. Get the air75 drone eachine 800d goggles radiomaster pocket for remote and woopstar charger 550mah 1s lipo.

I would go for a betafpv air or cetus kit. IMO the neo is too much for a 10 year old. With something that can fly miles away up to 40 mph it's less of a toy and more of a tool. Get the kid a tiny whoop FPV so they can fly it whenever indoors or outdoors without you needing to worry about them getting in trouble. Betafpv's are also way cheaper and easier to replace if they fly it into a pool or something. EDIT: This is slightly biased because teenagers flying drones around other people's windows has ruined local flying in my neighborhood. Please be responsible if you get them a dji

I would go for a betafpv air or cetus kit. IMO the neo is too much for a 10 year old. With something that can fly miles away up to 40 mph it's less of a toy and more of a tool. Get the kid a tiny whoop FPV so they can fly it whenever indoors or outdoors without you needing to worry about them getting in trouble. Betafpv's are also way cheaper and easier to replace if they fly it into a pool or something. EDIT: This is slightly biased because teenagers flying drones around other people's windows has ruined local flying in my neighborhood. Please be responsible if you get them a dji

Agree. I started with a tiny whoop flying round my house, then moved onto a 5" in a nice open field.

Tiny whoop all the way. Very difficult to break. Will survive anything.

as a first drone id go with a betafpv air 65 (indoor focused) or an air 75 (slightly larger for outdoors) with a radiomaster pocket (ELRS variant) and ev800d goggles. 300mah or 450mah 1s batteries for the 65 or 75 respectfully. and a whoopstor 1s charger

This is the way, then get a tiny whoop for around the house and park and work your way up!

I went with a tiny whoop. I find the 5 inch props intimidating. My use case as a beginner is mild freestyle (zipping around my yard shooting gaps). I’d like better video quality and a little longer (5-7 minutes) flight time, but the choices make me dizzy. I should add, I bought an Avata 2 but returned it. It was nice, but I want to learn to fly with two sticks and it seemed like a really expensive way into the hobby, by the time you got three batteries and the extra controller. I also have a mini 3 pro for photography.

You are going to have trouble flying anything without protected props inside. Even a tiny air75 is a lot for inside without a lot of practice. I would build a nice 3inch for outside and get a tiny 66mm whoop for inside. Trust me, I csn fly knsude, flips, rolls racing etc. But just moving up to a 75mm will send me into the walls. A 75 or 85 mm would also work outside. 85mm like a mobula8 is 2inch protected props.

The betafpv air75 are nice and cheap and work great. Newbeedrone make great 75mm as well. Mobula7 is a bit old now. Just scale the throttle when inside, should be fine.

No mob8 is fragile and why would a newbie start on 2s? Its a pita to charge when you can get a air75 and whoopstor and fly constantly. I have 2 mob8s too but not really good for beginners

It has a special firmware idk if its cuz the optiflow sensor needs it or what i believe you can tweak it with software from betafpvs site, lol its the same cable i believe as the new airs so the cables usefull. Its on there website that it doesnt work with betaflight. I used to say the same thing you did and stuck up for it, maybe it did help me learn faster but idk waste of $300 for me tho everythings been replaced and i think i could have learned fine with a air75 the more i think about the 6 lipos in a box i wasted money on tho the more i feel scammed.

Betafpv air75, pocket master m2 radio, some 2nd hand analog goggles

I started on tiny whoops, then started building my own fpv drones. Then I bought my first dji drone and was amazed by it, now I got a couple more.

For a first drone, I would start with mobula 6/7 or air 75. These are small drones you can fly in your backyard or a park. You will get up to speed really fast with them. After that you can buy a 5inch or cinewhoop.

It’s not really a “real” fpv drone, it’s a camera drone trying to be one. It’s rather underpowered and not easily repairable. It’s also a cinewhoop, which inherently sacrifices good flying characteristics to protect its surroundings from its props. It’s a real estate fly through machine basically. I’d say get a tiny whoop like a BetaFPV air75 Well actually, first get a good ELRS radio like a Radiomaster Pocket or Boxer (make sure it’s ELRS, not 4-in-1 or cc2500), and a sim like Velocidrone or liftoff.

I really gotta make a copypasta for this… Drone: BetaFPV air65 or 75 or meteor65 or 75, depending on if you want to fly indoors or outdoors. Radio: anything from Radiomaster or Jumper with ELRS. Cheapest option is the Radiomaster Pocket or Pocket Crush. Make sure it has ELRS not cc2500 2 18650 batteries Goggles: eachine ev800d or Skyzone cobra x Batteries: BetaFPV lava or Tattu, with a bt2.0 connector. For 65mm, you want 300mah, for 75mm you want 450-550mah Charger: Vifly Whoopstor 3 Depending on various factors this should fit under $350 USD Ah and most importantly, a sim. Velocidrone with the freestyle addon, or Tryp. Get the controller and the sim first so you can get some practice in.

What id say is get the controller first (probably a Radiomaster pocket with ELRS or a Pocket Crush) and a sim like Velocidrone or Liftoff. That way crashes cost $0. Once they can fly in that fairly well, then they’re ready for a tiny whoop like the BetaFPV air65 or 75

I wouldn’t recommend the Cetus kit, the controller is awful, the goggles are bad, and the drone is meh. The BetaFPV air65 and 75 are quite good though. For the controller, something from Radiomaster or Jumper with ELRS.

Drone: BetaFPV air65 or 75 or meteor65 or 75, depending on if you want to fly indoors or outdoors. Radio: anything from Radiomaster or Jumper with ELRS. Cheapest option is the Radiomaster Pocket or Pocket Crush. Make sure it has ELRS not cc2500 2 18650 batteries Goggles: eachine ev800d or Skyzone Cobra x Batteries: BetaFPV lava or Tattu, with a bt2.0 connector. For 65mm, you want 300mah, for 75mm you want 450-550mah Charger: Vifly Whoopstor 3 Depending on various factors this should fit under $350 USD Ah and most importantly, a sim. Velocidrone with the freestyle addon, or Tryp. Get the controller and the sim first so you can get some practice in.

The 75mm varietals are better for outside You don’t want an rtf kit, the transmitters in those are almost universally e-waste and there are many stories of them failing in like a week, plus they’re incompatible with other drones you might want in the future. Here’s a shopping list: Drone: BetaFPV air65 or 75 or meteor65 or 75, depending on if you want to fly indoors or outdoors. Radio: anything from Radiomaster or Jumper with ELRS. Cheapest option is the Radiomaster Pocket or Pocket Crush. Make sure it has ELRS not cc2500 2 18650 batteries Goggles: eachine ev800d or Skyzone Cobra x Batteries: BetaFPV lava or Tattu, with a bt2.0 connector. For 65mm, you want 300mah, for 75mm you want 450-550mah Charger: Vifly Whoopstor 3 Buy this from a local distributor (like pyrodrone or wrekd if you’re in the US), shipping from china takes a while, especially batteries, and Amazon tends to overprice things. Depending on various factors this should fit under $350 USD Ah and most importantly, a sim. Velocidrone with the freestyle addon, or Tryp. Get the controller and the sim first so you can get some practice in.

Perhaps a BetaFPV air65 or 75, they’re quite robust. Some time in the sim would also help, I recommend Liftoff or Velocidrone. You’ll want an actual Rc controller, not an Xbox controller, I recommend the Radiomaster Pocket with ELRS.

Air75 with TPU canopy is my favorite right now.

I also have a lot of experience flying 3d helis. I found that flying first person is totally different. As soon as you put the goggles on and loose sight of the drone, you’ll freak out. At least I did. I can fly the drone line of sight all day long. Flying first person was is a bit more difficult for me. I’d get a tiny whoop and a simulator. I’d pass on anything larger than a tiny whoop.

The Betafpv Air65 and Air75 are the best BNF whoops out right now. Lightest whoops ever made. Longest flight time. Great price too. Air65 or Air75 are the way to go.

Yes, crashes! and running into bushes. The only problem I've had is that I crashed it into some dirt and had to disasemble one of the motors to get the dirt out. Some wear on the Air75 prop from getting into bushes. Otherwise, they still fly!

7" is really a lot to start with at the beginning. Even a 5" quad can cut fingers off, anything bigger will do so even easier. I usually like Oscar Liang, but frankly all of these kits are basically only as good as something needs to be to fly one way only in warzones. The stuff they come with is most often made with no prior approval of Betaflight/ELRS developers and very likely to go up in flames or die in other mysterious ways. Altogether, you'd be starting off with poor quality equipment that's exponentially more likely to cut body parts off, go up in flames, fall out of the air for no reason, or a combination of those for something you might not even need. TL;DR: 7" quads are really not good beginner quads, cheap ones are going to be very dangerous, and decent quality ones will be a lot more expensive (closer to your total just for the drone alone). Do yourself and everyone around you a favor and get a decent micro indoor/outdoor setup with a quad like the BetaFPV Meteor Air 65/75, or the HappyModel Bassline/Crux 3/Crux 35

for sure, love to help out. fpv is weird in the sense that you have to learn how to fly before you actually fly, and that's why everyone strongly recommends using a simulator instead of just going out, flying, and crash. which seems kinda lame, but it's actually pretty fun. here's the general "starter guide" that you'll see many times a day on the r/fpv sub: * radiomaster pocket (remote controller) - $65 (and 2x 18650 batteries) * simulator - free to $20 (DRL, velocidrone, uncrashed, liftoff) \*spend dozens of hours learning to fly correctly * eachine ev800d analog goggles- $100 * betafpv air65/75 tinywhoop (drone) - $95 * 4x lava 1s 450mah battery - $20 * whoopstor v3 charger - $30 this is everything you'll need, start to finish, to have a decent budget fpv setup. please reach out and let me know if you have any questions!

1. That's a very broad question but since you specified racing it narrows it down a bit. 1. Analog and HDZero are the best video system options for racing. 2. It's often recommended to start small. The Air 65/75 and Meteor 65/75 tinywhoops from BetaFPV are fun to fly and relatively cheap and durable. 2. Most RTF kits like those from BetaFPV are not recommended. Their controllers and goggles are very cheap. Getting a BNF drone ( bind and fly ) and pairing it with a quality controller and pair of goggles is usually a better option. 3. You can easily get an analog setup including batteries and charger within this budget. HDZero goggles alone are $650 so that is not an option for you - yet. 4. Start with a controller and simulator! 1. Find some drone racing events near you. See what kind of drones they are flying and get to know the community. Most events are very friendly and welcoming of newbies.