Baratza - Preciso (or Virtuoso Preciso)

I have a Cafelat Robor and a Barazza Preciso grinder, and am convinced they will both outlive me

1. Not already. You'd have to 'make' something. 2. Not really. 3. You can look at getting a grinder with a mechanical time grind function, or a mechanical On button; and then remotely activate it with a smart plug or timed plug. Something like the Baratza Virtuoso has a timer knob on the side, you could set that, leave the room, and activate the smart plug from your phone. Grinders very rarely have a mechanical "on" button that would remain on indefinitely - base safety feature to prevent burning out the motor or fire risk due to overheating if you left it running and walked away. You're either finding that in a weird-brand grinder that doesn't care about your fire insurance, or in a grinder that's not supposed to work that way but has been damaged somehow - I have a Virtuoso that is stuck 'on' because the timer knob jammed, and I need to plug and unplug it when I'm using it.

I would only add that if you have the extra cash, The Baratza Virtuoso is also excellent. It has a couple quality of life features like a little light inside and an extended number of settings. But likewise, I dial it in when loading the coffee and don't touch it again unless I'm changing coffee brews. Just tap the button once every morning. And that little light btw, while seeming like an afterthought, is CLUTCH. It's so useful.

Fellow Ode II is maybe a bit more, but well worth it. Better than a Virtuoso I had before.

I have a (kinda old) Baratza Virtuoso, Ode Gen2 and Timemore 064S. You can't grind for espresso with the Ode. The 064S is just a bit fiddly for espresso because the available range is compressed/coarse -- but I use mine every day. My Baratza experience is "emergency use only" but a friend is quite happy with the ESP (filter/drip).

I’ve owned a Baratza Virtuoso (barely adequate, if that), a Turin DF 64 V. 1, a Niche Zero, and the Eureka Mignon Zero. The Turin was more clarity/fruity forward, though not by much, but I sold that for a Niche Zero. I owned them both for a little while and decided to keep the Niche. The Niche was fine—super user friendly, and easy to clean—but for not-particularly-rational reasons I was drawn to the Eureka (for esthetics mainly), so I sold the Niche. The Niche and the Eureka are both quiet, and great for my preference of dark beans and classic Italian espresso—- really, between the two you can't go wrong. But unless you can find a used Niche there's a big price difference. As I reread my post I sound like a person always after the next thing, but I did eventually stop questing something different!

It’s because the grinders launch a long time ago. If they launched recently, they would be completely ignored. I replaced a virtuoso with an ode v2. The ode is more expensive but it’s close when it often goes on sale. The ode completely blows away the virtuoso. It was a used virtuoso but I don’t think they upgraded the burrs since then which is kind of the problem. Baratza is great for support and repairability. If cup quality per dollar, isn’t the number one priority it’s a decent option.

I have the Baratza Virtuoso and I agree. As stated, very easy to disassemble and clean.

Very much so. I actually had issue where I tried using my eureka mignon zero for some pour over beans, and after grinding at a much higher setting for the pour over, I tried going back down to espresso grind size and found that I couldn’t set it that low anymore, it was clogged/blocked from the larger grind size bits. It actually stopped the burrs completely, it wouldn’t spin at all. After taking it apart and leaning everything out it was fine again. But at that point I decided to keep the eureka as the espresso and the baratza virtuoso for pour overs/moka/etc

Baratza grinders don’t die. Parts and instructions are available to inexpensively rebuild them. I had a Virtuoso for 15 years, and rebuilt it twice in that time. The plastic drive gear can get stripped, and once I replaced the motor and burr set with upgraded versions. I bought a Fellow Ode bc the Fellow is quieter and passed the baratza on to my son who has had it for 3 years. I like the Ode, but don’t love that I can’t repair it myself. I had some trouble and Fellows solution was to send me a rebuilt unit.