Virtuoso+

The M40 doesn't have external grind adjustment- no way I would ever get it. Copying an outdated grinder like the commandante is a weird business model. I have used a K6 every day for the past 2.5 years. I also have a baratza Virtuoso+ that I've basically not touched since I got the K6.

Because it's absolute crap. It might break apart beans, but the "burrs" in it bash the beans apart and don't cut them. I owned this same grinder at one point a LONG time ago, and I can tell you it does an absolute miserable job of grinding coffee. No one wants to believe how much of a difference the grinder makes, but it really makes a frigging huge difference in the quality of coffee. I switched from using a Baratza Virtuoso+ ($250) to a much cheaper handgrinder - the Kingrinder K6 ($100), because the burrs in the K6 are a LOT better.

You're welcome. I think there are a lot of great alternative suggestions in other comments, but I do want to throw in my two cents in about one issue, which is the possibility of upgrading your current Virtuoso to the M2 burrs. I used the Virtuoso+ with M2s for many years (maybe 5?) as my primary grinder, and the original Encore before that – more than a decade combined between the two grinders. I did not find the M2 burrs to be a significant upgrade. I think both the original Encore burrs and the M2s are good for batch brew, and pretty bad for pourover at any roast level. I was always fighting between grinding coarser than I wanted, or grinding as fine as I wanted but dealing with the possibility of clogged filters/inconsistent brews. I brew medium to medium-dark for my wife's pourover every morning, and both of us think her coffee got better when I started using the Ode.

I got a Delonghi Dedica Maestro Plus on sale on Amazon for $300. It was between this and the Bambino Plus because my wife wanted the auto steamer. My grinder is a Baratza Virtuoso+. I know it's not an espresso grinder but I also make a lot of cold brew at home and could only afford one grinder after my last one gave out, so I got a jack of a trades grinder. Grinder does work for espresso, it does get fine enough, it's just bigger jumps in size compared to a dedicated espresso grinder, so I may not dial it in as perfectly.

I have a Baratza Virtuoso+ and a Kingrinder K6 and use the K6 daily for 2-3 v60 pourovers a day. I'm amazed at how easy it is to use and the fantastic coffee it produces.

The timing of this video was perfect as I was in search for a new grinder for pourover and light espresso. I sold my Baratza Sette 270Wi after using it for 7 years which paid for the Shardor 64mm + SSP MP Burrs. I received it Sunday and seasoned it with just a pound of old beans I was never going to drink. Every v60 and switch drink I made with this has been fantastic. Excited to see how it improves after 10 lbs. NOTE: I've been using a Baratza Virtuoso+ and Kingrinder K6 for pourover lately. The Sette 270Wi was exclusively for espresso. I hoped to sell both Baratza grinders so I could have one electric that could do both espresso and filter.

Get a Baratza Virtuoso+. It's an investment but a significant step up from the Encore and totally worth it. What kind of drip matters, too. I have an Origami for that and am quite happy.

I have a Baratza Virtuoso+ and love it. I would recommend it.

I have the virtuoso +, and I never use the timer…I always weigh them.

Fair point. I don’t leave beans in the hopper exposed to air. I store them in an airscape canister and weigh out what I need for a brew. I leave mine set at 40 seconds, and turn it off when the beans are through.

When my encore got to be over twelve years old, I sent it to baratza and had it rebuilt…new motor, circuit board etc. I also had them upgrade the burr to the m2 burr. This is the burr used in the virtuoso +. While I was waiting, I got a virtuoso +, because I can’t wait that long for a cup of coffee😄 when I got the encore back, I was impressed with the service. They discounted some of the parts and labor…I believe it was less than $100.00 usd. I don’t see much difference between the two grinders….the encore seems to grind faster than before. I don’t use the timer on the V+, as I weigh my beans as needed. I would be equally happy using either grinder. I keep the encore, because my wife likes flavored beans and I don’t want my light roasted beans tasting like French vanilla.

I’m using a Timemore s3 for hand grinding, and a Virtuoso + for when I’m feeling lazy..

We have the virtuoso plus after seeing the reviews of the encore. The timer is a nice feature to have

We use the baratza virtuoso +, best value we found