Yep, I have two eureka mignons. One is the silenzio for espresso, the other is their filter grinder. Especially with the dial on the mignons, I got fed up redialling when I wanted to swap between brew types. Heck, I’d almost buy a third for a ‘guest bean’ 😂
Some flat burr grinders have a conical flavor profile (Eureka Mignon 55mm) and some conical burr grinders have a flat burr flavor profile (Lagom Casa). The "general" rule doesn't always hold true.
As a former barista I think you will be most comfortable with a Gaggia Classic E24. It will feel closest to the commercial machines you've used in the past.
Don't forget to budget for a good grinder. When brewing espresso, the grinder is much more important than the espresso machine. lf you really have a budget for $1K, an E24 for $450 will leave you $550 for a grinder. Spend as much of that as you can stand. If you want to single dose, Timemore 064s would be a great choice. Get it at one of Amazon's frequent 20% discount sales. If you want to grind-on-demand with a hopper, then one of the Eureka Mignons.
Consider one of the Eureka Mignon grinders. They are flat burr, but (except for the new 65 AP burrs) they have the flavor profile of a conical burr grinder. When I used to own both a Niche Zero and a Eureka Specialita, the espresso brewed from both tasted nearly identical.
Saying cones are chocolate and flats are clarity isn't true. There is significant overlap between them. Flat burrs are also not better for espresso than cones. Look at the Lagom Casa or Turn SK40 or possibly something from the Eureka Mignon line
DON'T get the eureka mignon line!
Medium-dark drinker here, mainly for cortados
The inconsistency is why im looking at other, more high quality grinders.
Yes and also eureka mignon. The motor on e64ws doesn't stall, I've had the eureka stall, but the e64ws does have far better made carriers which also helps it not stall.
The e64ws is precise to 0.001mm thanks to it's servo motor, the Eureka has that small knob that graduates off either an M5 or M6 threaded rod, can't remember but either way that's either 0.8mm or 1mm pitch on not more than 6mm, making dialling in as accurately as the E64ws impossible.
The GBW aspect on the e64ws is simply better. It is smoother and more accurate.
The e64ws grounds are also fluffier if that is important.
The e64ws is basically an e65s built for home. An exceptional grinder, while the Eurekas are not built to that standard.
A few different ways. You can adjust while it spins by hold grind button and adjust or input a gap and the motor will adjust to setting. You hold the grind button while it lowers.
No, it doesn't stall. The e64ws has a very efficient motor.
If the input is too large , 100 microns for example. The grinder won't allow that large an adjustment and will ask you to grind first.
You can also set it so that it doesn't automatically adjust to a different recipes gap. I have mine set to auto and have not had any issues.
The grinder also has the option to help with your brew. Set weight and time. It will then adjust based on how long you input for time taken to get to your weight. That particular feature has been spot on. So impressive.
After awhile it's easy to get the hang of the adjustments and how they relate to extraction time. I now know for every micron I get 1 second change in extraction time with my coffees.
E64ws makes it so simple and is the easiest grinder to dial in.
It's not always adjusting though, maybe it's my specific use case.
I buy 1kg beans, put them in 200 gram ziplock bags and freeze them. I load about 100 gram of beans every 2nd day. My grind hasn't changed for the entire kg, doing that.
The only time I adjust my grind size is for a new type of coffee.
You can also not use that feature and manually adjust and spin as you usually would, if you're more comfortable with that. Again it's nothing like the Eureka motor which is very inefficient and stalled frequently on me.
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