Eureka - Mignon Libra Brew

Lots to chose from. Recommend Eureka - especially the grind by weight option - Libra

4 - Eureka Mignon Libra for espresso, Eureka Mignon Silenzio for decaf, and two hand grinders for pour over and travel

I just took a Bambino portafilter to the Libra we have in our kitchen and the fit in the cradle with the triple-wing setup Breville portafilters have is not perfect, but it does work. I think you’d get best results if you used a dosing funnel though, just to make sure your grounds end up where you want them.  The Atom W65 is definitely a nicer grinder than the Libra. It grinds faster and more consistently, and it does so without needing to press a button (it automatically doses when it detects the portafilter in the cradle), which is nice when workflow is concerned. It’s also slightly quieter than the Libra, though not really enough to notice (74 decibels on average to the Libra’s 77).  Although, for the price of an Atom W65 you could get a Gaggia Classic Pro E24 and a Libra, which would be a much better setup long-term. The Classic is a commercial-grade espresso machine with a 58mm portafilter and solid brass boiler and group head. It’s going to make better espresso than the Bambino, and do it for longer.  So, unless you have plans to upgrade your espresso machine in the near future, I’d go with the Libra and pick up the Classic while you’re at it. If you know you might want to upgrade to a heat-exchanger or dual-boiler soon (which would be the best idea if workflow is a concern and you make 95% lattes), I’d go with the Atom now since that’s a better overall grinder and you’ll be happier with it long term (not that you’d be UNhappy with the Libra per-se).  I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any more questions or if you make a decision!

Yes, I think they are great. Much less retention than the Mignon we originally bought & then returned. Easy to adjust, reliable. We use it for decaf, V60 & filter in a small cafe.

Hey folks, long time lurker here. Tried to lay it out there as well as possible in the title, but I'm really interested in a new electric grinder. Tldr; * Electric * Hopper * Timed * Common burr size * Filter/pourover and french press * Roughly $600-$1000usd budget. My use case is for virtually exclusively pourover and french press. I actually switch between these two pretty frequently, so that's worth consideration. Because of the multiple people in my home using the grinder, and the volume of coffee that we go through, I'm very much interested in something with a small hopper (200-300g), simple automation, etc. I have no interest in a single dose grinder, and despite there being many extremely high quality options in this range, this becomes very limiting in the modern grinding scene. I'm also not interested in all of the tubular shaped form factors out there, but that's mostly eliminated by avoiding single dose focused options. Budget isn't a massive concern, but I'd like to keep it somewhere in the $600 to $1,000 USD range. It feels like the Eureka Mignon series is really my wheelhouse here but reviews seem pretty mixed. Especially the grind size dial, when I'm expecting to be going between filter and french press often The Mahlkonig x54 is an alternative, too, but seems to struggle in the filter range. What am I overlooking? I'm moving up from an old baratza and would love some new perspectives, but 98% of the reviews I run across are for super purpose built single dose options and those just aren't for me. Feel free to just link me to other posts...Ive tried to do some searching but have little faith in reddit's search quality. Thank you! E: Thanks for everybody's input. I ended up going with the x54. It did seem to have the best combination of things that meet my needs, especially since I'm not going to be single dosing daily. I have a sense that while there are probably slightly better moderate upgrade picks in terms of grind consistency, it's going to be a huge leap over where I'm at today and that overall it will be a good balance for the dollar. It's also nice that it's currently on sale for around $510 USD, which feels like a pretty solid value to feature set. Especially considering that this was $750 a year or two ago.

Awesome, really appreciate that perspective. I think one of the things that might be working in my favor at this point is that my old baratza is so staticky that almost anything is going to feel like an improvement, or at least a parallel move. Between the x54 and the Eureka, I prefer the form factor that the Eureka offers, but everyone pretty much unanimously says grind size dial is a total pain in the butt if you're switching between filter and espresso on a regular basis. I don't expect to use it for espresso at all, but even going between French press and pour over is probably enough movement to feel that pain.

Awesome, really appreciate that perspective. I think one of the things that might be working in my favor at this point is that my old baratza is so staticky that almost anything is going to feel like an improvement, or at least a parallel move. Between the x54 and the Eureka, I prefer the form factor that the Eureka offers, but everyone pretty much unanimously says grind size dial is a total pain in the butt if you're switching between filter and espresso on a regular basis. I don't expect to use it for espresso at all, but even going between French press and pour over is probably enough movement to feel that pain.

Have owned all the grinders on your list, at one point or another. Agree that Duo might be your best bet. Ability to play with other 83mm burrs is a good hedge against future curiosity. Recommend getting second (filter) burr option, because having the extra carrier for fast(ish) swaps is nice. Cannot recommend the Eurekas. Good build, very pretty, but burrs are proprietary and the grind chamber/chute design is antediluvian. Fine for hopper base on-demand grinding, but crap for single dosing. Even with the mods (tilted base, bellows), retention is terrible. Eureka’s attempts at single-dosing focused grinders are not honest efforts. Just a new model name and superficial accessories. And their new dial is just…stupid. Still not enough ratio to overcome the thread lash in their adjustment screw. The rev counter is nice enough, but a big dial like [this](https://www.amazon.com/ARO-EspressoTM-Eureka-Mignon-Adjustments/dp/B0CLCB8VQ6/ref=asc_df_B0CLCB8VQ6) is much more effective (and not stupid looking, imho) Libra portafilter contact sensor was unreliable. I heard they fixed it, but I had given up already and moved on. When it worked, it was…ok. Weight accuracy wasn’t bad, but irrelevant because it was a hot mess of sprayed grounds. RDT absolutely necessary in my environment (20-50%RH over the year), but the extra moisture caused caking/clogging in the chute. From a taste perspective…it’s ok. Blendy, decent body, not a lot of clarity. Little unkempt and harsh. Good in milk drinks. Niches — good workflow, probably among the best, even compared against titan grinders at 5x the price. Personally, not a fan of Mazzer burrs. Harsh and bitter finish. The Zero doesn’t have any options for their 63mm conical, so you’re kinda stuck. The stock Duo espresso burr was, to me, a cleaner version of Zero profile. Other options: Mazzer Philos. The grinder itself is a bit pricey, and rumor has it that the i200D and 189D burrs are big improvements over Mazzer traditional flavor profile — but it’s a good platform for 64mm burr space, where you are spoilt for choice and the burrs are cheaper than 83mm. Hope that helps

The Eureka Mignon series will grind to the 190-195 micron range depending on which model.

I got a home grinder initially so that my coffee wouldn’t go stale as fast.  Whole beans last longer than preground.  Part of the bonus was, hopefully, that I could buy a larger bag for cheaper and still get good coffee for less money per cup. Then I got better at dialing in my grind size and getting the smoothest flavor I could, so now rather than spending ten dollars per kilo of commodity-grade coffee, I’m happy spending twenty per 300g of specialty coffee. 🤣 For the same money, you’ll get much better grind quality in a hand grinder than you would for electric.  Get a Timemore or 1ZPresso and it’ll rival electric grinders costing double or triple as much.  It’ll take a bit longer, but with the modern class of hand grinders, you’re only looking at maybe 45 seconds for a 3-cup pot without working very hard (which is much better than multiple minutes in a Hario Skerton). In electric grinders, the bare minimum I’d recommend would be an Oxo or a Baratza.  But I’d rather step up to, say, the DF54, Eureka Mignon series, Urbanic, and some others.

Neither the Shardor, Hibrew, or Casabrews are likely to meet your requirement for a 5 year life. The Baratza ESP has the best build quality of any device on your list, but you can still do better. I'd suggest a Gaggia Classic E24 for the machine, and one of the Eureka Mignon grinders. These are high quality products that should last forever if well taken care of. I wouldn't give a lot of credence to the Amazon reviews. Many people buy espresso equipment (especially Breville) without realizing how difficult it is to learn to use. They get rapidly frustrated, blame their problems on the machine, and give it a poor review. Feedback from this sub and other coffee/espresso forums is much more relevant than Amazon ratings.

You might be able to pick up a second hand Eureka Mignon for around that price, that's what I did.

https://www.espressocoffeeshop.com/en/8-coffee-grinders Entry level Eureka is only around 200usd. Email and ask them for a coupon code, you’ll very likely get one. Excellent grinder, will make a huge difference.

I have, they are nice

Eureka Mignon has a few options, though they’ll sit right at that 250-300 price point. They’re very solid, good looking, and can do both espresso and drip with enough hopper capacity.

Have a look at the Rocket or ECM line of espresso machines. As for grinders, I love the eureka mignon line, and mazzer. 2+K is an easy spend for a home set up. I'm sitting around 3500 now.

Your budget is fine. You can easily get a good grinder that will do both, which generally means grind fine enough for espresso as that is the more demanding. Most people prefer, for multiple types of coffee making (esp. pour over and espresso), flat burrs. Just a preference thing, conical burrs can still work well with pour-over, it is just that classical people look for greater clarity with pour-over. The best answer is two grinders, one conical and one flat, but that is luxury, however, given how good and inexpensive conical hand grinders are now, that can make for a best of both worlds solution. One key question is if you want to single-dose or hopper feed. The workflow is different with pros and cons of either way. It is just a preference thing. Most people on this sub seem to be single-dosing (inc. me), just be aware that may not be what you prefer. If it was me, I would get a good budget flat electric grinder like the Turin DF54 or the Fellow, and a conical hand-grinder (a Kingrinder, Timemore or 1zpresso). If I wanted to favour espresso and only do pour-over occasionally, I would look at a grinder like the Option O Casa. Finally, if you want to go with a hopper grinder, the Eurekas models are worth looking at. As a small tip - pay attention to the noise level of the electric grinder, if you are noise sensitive. Some of them can be annoyingly loud. Hope it makes sense and helps.