Eureka - Mignon Silenzio

Have owned all the grinders on your list, at one point or another. Agree that Duo might be your best bet. Ability to play with other 83mm burrs is a good hedge against future curiosity. Recommend getting second (filter) burr option, because having the extra carrier for fast(ish) swaps is nice. Cannot recommend the Eurekas. Good build, very pretty, but burrs are proprietary and the grind chamber/chute design is antediluvian. Fine for hopper base on-demand grinding, but crap for single dosing. Even with the mods (tilted base, bellows), retention is terrible. Eureka’s attempts at single-dosing focused grinders are not honest efforts. Just a new model name and superficial accessories. And their new dial is just…stupid. Still not enough ratio to overcome the thread lash in their adjustment screw. The rev counter is nice enough, but a big dial like [this](https://www.amazon.com/ARO-EspressoTM-Eureka-Mignon-Adjustments/dp/B0CLCB8VQ6/ref=asc_df_B0CLCB8VQ6) is much more effective (and not stupid looking, imho) Libra portafilter contact sensor was unreliable. I heard they fixed it, but I had given up already and moved on. When it worked, it was…ok. Weight accuracy wasn’t bad, but irrelevant because it was a hot mess of sprayed grounds. RDT absolutely necessary in my environment (20-50%RH over the year), but the extra moisture caused caking/clogging in the chute. From a taste perspective…it’s ok. Blendy, decent body, not a lot of clarity. Little unkempt and harsh. Good in milk drinks. Niches — good workflow, probably among the best, even compared against titan grinders at 5x the price. Personally, not a fan of Mazzer burrs. Harsh and bitter finish. The Zero doesn’t have any options for their 63mm conical, so you’re kinda stuck. The stock Duo espresso burr was, to me, a cleaner version of Zero profile. Other options: Mazzer Philos. The grinder itself is a bit pricey, and rumor has it that the i200D and 189D burrs are big improvements over Mazzer traditional flavor profile — but it’s a good platform for 64mm burr space, where you are spoilt for choice and the burrs are cheaper than 83mm. Hope that helps

Picked this up a few months ago. Ewcellent. Replaced my old Baratza vario which crapped out, although "quiet" is a relative term. At least it does not wake the neighbors

Eureka mignon silenzio - around $450, amazing grinder , 0 regrets.

Second a eureka mignon - Italians make good motors

I’m shocked at how quiet the Silenzio is. Coming from BBE grinder (which by all accounts is already decently quiet compared to the Baratza), it’s night and day difference.

Correct. BBE was my daily for the last 10 years.  Then I got the Silenzio about a month ago and still used the BBE to pull shots before my new machine arrived.

I have a Eureka Silenzio that I purchased packaged what an ECM Casa V espresso machine used for $500 for both. I’ve added a bellows and dialing collar to work for single dosing.

The Eureka Mignon series will grind to the 190-195 micron range depending on which model.

Yep, I have two eureka mignons. One is the silenzio for espresso, the other is their filter grinder. Especially with the dial on the mignons, I got fed up redialling when I wanted to swap between brew types. Heck, I’d almost buy a third for a ‘guest bean’ 😂

I think they’re great, I upgraded from a baratza encore. Sometimes on the finer end, the silenzio has some clumping. But that’s just me being a bit off on dialling in. My only real complaint is the dial has a very high learning curve in my opinion

One of the Eurekas - built better than the DF64 for same price (in the states it makes more sense to buy a DF due to price difference ). Specialita. , silenzio, or the zero if you want to single dose etc

I started with a Flair and 1Zpresso Pro and felt that I was making good espresso with decent consistency. Then I upgraded my machine to a Rancilio Sylvia Pro X and my shots got a little better. I finally got tired of hand grinding so I picked up a Eureka Minion Silenzio and, WOW! Not only are these shots better than anything I previously pulled, they are super consistent. I can pull shot after shot after shot and they all come out amazing, and the same. So to answer your question, it’s consistency. Consistent grind size, consistent heat, and consistent pressure. Precision is expensive. If you have any variability in any of those then you will have variability in your shot.