
Multiple Brands
DF54 Series
Great value for espresso, but clogs and poor for pour-over.

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I love my eureka zero 65AP
Hi! I’ve had mine for 6 months or so. I only stay in espresso range so I’ve not dealt with the extra retention from switching.As long as I smack the bellows like it owes me money the retention is no more than .2. I’m v happy with my purchase. I will say that if you have a partner who doesn’t want to deal with the whole ritual just buy a libra
Since the tariff made the the niche zero too expensive i ended up getting the eureka zero 65 which I really like so far, but don't have anything to compare it to except the baraza. TBH just liked the look over the DF64 (and i heard it was loud). I still use the old grinder for drip now since it doesnt really take up any extra usable space, the way its setup.
Eureka Mignon Zero 65 with Black Diamond Espresso Specialty burrs and Comandante C40 for pour overs
Another detail: I 3d printed an inclined base for my Eureka Zero and it didn't make any difference in retention, which by the way is very low.
I agree. I also had an Eureka, the Zero, and it was the most silent I had so far. And the retention doesn't improve with an inclined base. I 3d printed one and tested. Which for me means that Oro is a bit overpriced for the advantages offered when compared to Zero. But probably the grinders with DC motors can be even quieter like the E55. But I don't have experience with any so far.
If you only make milk drinks, IMHO you don't need a fancy grinder. There are good ones below 400 today like the Shardor 64 mm or Starseeker E55 Pro. The Eureka Zero is more than sufficient and it was great for espressos, I had one between 2023 and 2025.
I bought the Eureka Mignon Zero 65 AP from Clive Coffee, on their advice after hearing about my experience with the DF54. Quite a bit more expensive, but I have been completely satisfied. Grinds to almost infinite differences, nearly no retention and certainly no mess. Comes with a fitted top for the dosing cup. I use no water spray at all on the beans—I mean, come on, does anybody think it seems sensible to add water to beans prior to putting them in a grinder??? I have cleaned it out a couple of times just to maintain it, but I find very little build up. Super happy with the investment, lesson learned.
Eureka Mignon Zero 65AP. Awesome in every way.
I bought the Eureka Mignon Zero 65 AP. It’s been perfect: no clogging, very little retention and seemingly infinite range of grinds. Can’t believe the difference with the DF54, to be honest.
I have a Eureka zero AP65 for a month now (450€), and I think it's underrated by most people. I really enjoy it

Multiple Brands
DF54 Series
Great value for espresso, but clogs and poor for pour-over.

OPTION-O
Lagom Casa
Versatile, premium build, high clarity; slow for large volumes.

Niche Coffee Ltd
Niche Zero
Durable, easy workflow, great for dark roasts, not light.

Fellow
Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 Series
Excellent for filter/pour-over, but cannot grind for espresso.

Baratza
Encore™ ESP Pro
Durable, repairable, versatile, but loud, messy, poor for light roasts.

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Mazzer - Philos

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Baratza - Encore™ ESP Pro

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Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 Series