Eureka - Mignon Zero Brew

I'd go for a Eureka Zero, I love the grind by weight (GBW) workflow and am getting very consistent shots

I have heard from more than one person that these built-in grinders are really very limiting. My daughter has two children, ages two and four, and she uses a separate grinder with a Breville Bambino— she received them right after the youngest was born— and she’s quite happy with the arrangement. The Profitec Go is gorgeous but perhaps requires more maintenance? I don’t know. Her grinder is a Baratza, which is known for being very loud. Obviously a manual grinder would be as quiet, but if you’re drinking several a day it might get old. Eureka Mignon makes very quiet electric grinders— I have the Eureka Mignon Zero, and I like it very much.

I’ve owned a Baratza Virtuoso (barely adequate, if that), a Turin DF 64 V. 1, a Niche Zero, and the Eureka Mignon Zero. The Turin was more clarity/fruity forward, though not by much, but I sold that for a Niche Zero. I owned them both for a little while and decided to keep the Niche. The Niche was fine—super user friendly, and easy to clean—but for not-particularly-rational reasons I was drawn to the Eureka (for esthetics mainly), so I sold the Niche. The Niche and the Eureka are both quiet, and great for my preference of dark beans and classic Italian espresso—- really, between the two you can't go wrong. But unless you can find a used Niche there's a big price difference. As I reread my post I sound like a person always after the next thing, but I did eventually stop questing something different!

Have owned all the grinders on your list, at one point or another. Agree that Duo might be your best bet. Ability to play with other 83mm burrs is a good hedge against future curiosity. Recommend getting second (filter) burr option, because having the extra carrier for fast(ish) swaps is nice. Cannot recommend the Eurekas. Good build, very pretty, but burrs are proprietary and the grind chamber/chute design is antediluvian. Fine for hopper base on-demand grinding, but crap for single dosing. Even with the mods (tilted base, bellows), retention is terrible. Eureka’s attempts at single-dosing focused grinders are not honest efforts. Just a new model name and superficial accessories. And their new dial is just…stupid. Still not enough ratio to overcome the thread lash in their adjustment screw. The rev counter is nice enough, but a big dial like [this](https://www.amazon.com/ARO-EspressoTM-Eureka-Mignon-Adjustments/dp/B0CLCB8VQ6/ref=asc_df_B0CLCB8VQ6) is much more effective (and not stupid looking, imho) Libra portafilter contact sensor was unreliable. I heard they fixed it, but I had given up already and moved on. When it worked, it was…ok. Weight accuracy wasn’t bad, but irrelevant because it was a hot mess of sprayed grounds. RDT absolutely necessary in my environment (20-50%RH over the year), but the extra moisture caused caking/clogging in the chute. From a taste perspective…it’s ok. Blendy, decent body, not a lot of clarity. Little unkempt and harsh. Good in milk drinks. Niches — good workflow, probably among the best, even compared against titan grinders at 5x the price. Personally, not a fan of Mazzer burrs. Harsh and bitter finish. The Zero doesn’t have any options for their 63mm conical, so you’re kinda stuck. The stock Duo espresso burr was, to me, a cleaner version of Zero profile. Other options: Mazzer Philos. The grinder itself is a bit pricey, and rumor has it that the i200D and 189D burrs are big improvements over Mazzer traditional flavor profile — but it’s a good platform for 64mm burr space, where you are spoilt for choice and the burrs are cheaper than 83mm. Hope that helps

Second a eureka mignon - Italians make good motors

Eureka zero. Within budget and much better built than the DF grinders. Hands down. The DF grinders make more sense in the States where Eureka’s are soooo much more expensive. Over here , I would definitely go Eureka. https://www.coffeefriend.co.uk/p/eureka-mignon-zero-55s-15bl-coffee-grinder-matte-black/ No connection to this shop but I have bought items from them before and super happy. However, the zero is not that easy to change from espresso range to pour over range. Therefore , With the money left over I would get something like a P2 for pour overs etc. In total it will be just over £300 (the P2 is around £22 on AliExpress or £34 from Amazon)

Yeah and in Europe, it makes much more sense to buy Eureka than the DF range as prices are much closer together compared to Stateside where DF makes more sense due to them being that much cheaper than Eurekas. Eurekas are the way to go round this neck of the woods. Built like tanks. Long lasting. Much higher quality compared to DF

Eureka mignon zero has the same silent tech as the Silenzio - pretty much same specs all around except for the digital stuff. And it’s a single doser. On sale for 3-400$

Your budget is fine. You can easily get a good grinder that will do both, which generally means grind fine enough for espresso as that is the more demanding. Most people prefer, for multiple types of coffee making (esp. pour over and espresso), flat burrs. Just a preference thing, conical burrs can still work well with pour-over, it is just that classical people look for greater clarity with pour-over. The best answer is two grinders, one conical and one flat, but that is luxury, however, given how good and inexpensive conical hand grinders are now, that can make for a best of both worlds solution. One key question is if you want to single-dose or hopper feed. The workflow is different with pros and cons of either way. It is just a preference thing. Most people on this sub seem to be single-dosing (inc. me), just be aware that may not be what you prefer. If it was me, I would get a good budget flat electric grinder like the Turin DF54 or the Fellow, and a conical hand-grinder (a Kingrinder, Timemore or 1zpresso). If I wanted to favour espresso and only do pour-over occasionally, I would look at a grinder like the Option O Casa. Finally, if you want to go with a hopper grinder, the Eurekas models are worth looking at. As a small tip - pay attention to the noise level of the electric grinder, if you are noise sensitive. Some of them can be annoyingly loud. Hope it makes sense and helps.

My Eureka Zero has served me pretty well so far too. Basically a single dose version of Specialita

we're very close to the same- I have a Baratza Virtuoso (the old base model that's now discontinued) and the Eureka Mignon Zero for espresso. I have loved the Eureka

I do. I still have my old Baratza Virtuoso that I bought 8 years ago. Still works great and when I have issues, Baratza's service is excellent. I bought a Eureka Mignon Zero a couple years ago, which I use exclusively for espresso, and I use the Baratza for pourover.

Ja mám už roky delonghi dedica s vlastným sitkom a pákou (neviem, ako sa to po slovensky správne volá) a eureka mignon mlynček. Do 500€ by si sa mal vojsť.