Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 1

Big fan of the Fellow Ode. I have a first gen and it’s built like a tank. It’s been dropped a couple times and is absolutely no worse for the wear. You might also check out James Hoffmann’s grinder reviews on his YouTube channel, he gets really in depth.

Capresso Infinity will definitely grind coffee. A secondhand ode gen1 will get you really good pourover with the 4:6 method, but certainly falls short in other areas

Time more c2 and 3 timemore s3 Fellow ode gen 1 and 2 Timemore sculptor. You’re gonna have to pay a premium regardless. I always recon fellow brand as I am a die hard but some people disagree.

They improved the manufacturing tolerances significantly

Burr carriers, auger, faceplates, all of it

It’s been mentioned but Fellow Ode really is a great grinder. Might have some decent deals with Black Friday. I bought a refurbished gen 1 Ode and it’s been great. Recently upgraded to the gen 2 brew burrs and it’s even better. Before this my grinder was a 1Zpresso JX. Which I still love my hand grind but not having to hand grind every time I want coffee is nice. But hand grinders will punch above their weight for similarly priced electric grinders. Can’t really go wrong with any of the 1Zpresso ones from what I’ve read and my experience with the JX

Thank you for your reply. I agree, outside of maybe an EG-1, its looking like its going to be two separate grinders for us. Will probably focus on an espresso grinder since the Ode 1 makes great cups but is more of a grievance on the UX side of things. The search continuous!

I have had great coffee from a coffee shop running a Wilfa CGWS/Svart Aroma. Also had great coffee from coffee shops running the first gen Ode. Gear is not what brings great coffee. This equipment aimed at consumers might break down faster than professional gear, but depending on number of coffees served and type of coffee on the menu, "lower rated gear" can still work out great. You might hit diminishing returns on the cups faster, but it is still 100% possible to serve great cups. (The Wilfa was a temporary solution they told me)

For hand grinders: - 1zpresso any of their line ups are good - timemore c2 - commandante grinders After that it just gets exponentially expensive Electric Grinders - fellow ode or opus - df64 - baratza encore - varia - lagom p64 or mini - mahlkonigs -sk40 Just look for burr grinders either conical or flat burrs would do. Depending on the shape, geometry if blades, and type, they can affect the flavor profile of the brews. You can deep dive on this whenever. But you would want a burr grinder than a blade one any day as it cuts the beans better and more consistently than the latter. I guess if you are not that invested or just want a cup of hot joe you can go ahead with that as it is better than buying pre ground

He said all around. Ode (I have and love it for the price) is not for espresso.

Get an ode on sale and then buy an espresso focused hand grinder.

I had a Baratza Virtusoso and it was not quiet. I now have a fellow ode mostly because of how much quieter it is. I’m not sure how loud the opus is, but if a quieter grinder is what you’re looking for, I’m not sure that an encore will fit the bill.

Do you plan to make coffee for an entire house with the grinder, or just yourself? If you plan to eventually make coffee for more than just yourself get a Fellow Ode, if not the Timemore Chestnut is a great hand grinder.

There is no question that the J-Ultra is better than the Fellow Ode for espresso. There is also no question that electric is more convenient than manual, albeit it usually means it has a bigger footprint therefore less conducive to travel. I would suggest you look at the Turin grinders, perhaps some of the models positioned below the DF54. The lagom mini or Varia could also be an option.

You would need to mod the Ode by making it stepless and replace the burrs with an espresso suitable set in order to get a grinder that struggles with grinding light roasts for espresso. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IMNKwMoThg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IMNKwMoThg)

>Because you cut down on the cost of the electric components you can have better burrs? That's precisely it. Because why wouldn't you want freshly grounded coffee in seconds at the press of a button, if the quality is the same? That said, workflow and convenience isn't trivial, just like the burr difference isn't trivial. If you have guests over, and your only set up is a hand grinder, it'll be a struggle to serve coffee to everyone. My current set up is a Commandante C40 and a Fellow Ode. They cost about the same but are used differently. C40 is for the more expensive beans where I can really tweak it and get great cups. When guests are over, I use Ode to grind Costco coffee. I tried C40 before and guests were feeling bad about asking for coffee because it took so long to make one.

I did stop looking at gears after buying a C40. However, when I started having friends over for brunch, I had to buy an Ode because hand grinding just took too much time.

I am one of those people who went down the rabbit hole and got a Lagom P64 + unimodal v1 burrs. I will first say that it is amazing — the build, team support, everything. Could I get something close to that much cheaper? Probably. My brother has the DF64 with unimodal burrs and, while the polish is not there, it can probably do close to what my Lagom does. As long as you pick a grinder that 1) is generally reliable, 2) has okay customer support, and 3) lets you swap out burrs, that is pretty great! I've had many cafe filter brews from the Ode that impressed me. Your main limitation will probably be grind adjustment — depending on how "unimodally" your burrs are, 5-10 microns makes a huuuge difference because the sweet spot window is much narrower. Soooo Ode is great, but at that price point you should also consider DF64!

You can feed the Ode with beans for more than one dose. I like it. It's much better than the Baratza. There are mods to make a hopper. you can also put whatever you want for the catch cup.

1zpresso K series for manual or Fellow Ode for electric. Either should last long enough you'll feel you got your monies worth.

So I have that (skerton pro)and a ODE and I actually like the hario more… for $300 less lol as it turns out conical and flat burr really do taste different. It just takes forever if I’m making 2L of cold brew

The fellow ode grinder (flat burr)

Easy. How many kidneys do you have? How many do you need? Go for the Zerno haha. In all seriousness, Ode is pretty affordable, relatively speaking. The SSP. MP burrs are fantastic . All the Niche reviews make it sound a little overrated (at least for the price).

If she is ok with two devices that will just work honestly not sure you can beat ode and mocca master. Xbloom is neat (I want one!) but durability is tbd. The above have been reliable for years and will make a killer cup.

And because you mention that you’re looking for a better grinder to help you explore more coffees, I think that’s *exactly* what the Ode is geared toward. The downside is that it is considerably more expensive than the hand grinders (at least, in USD).

On my bar currently is a Fellow Ode, Baratza Vario, and a Timemore 064s. Had SSP cast in the 064 but probably swapping them to the Ode now. All that to say, I could have just one of any of these and be perfectly happy. Timemore is probably my favorite as far as quality and workflow, plus it can genuinely pull double duty. Ode is great but obviously you’re not getting espresso there. Vario is an old design with clunky workflow but the burrs are great—in fact, the Mahlkonig X54 is essentially just an updated Vario. All these are great grinders.

Fellow ode is a solid option

I wouldn't spend that big on a grinder again even if I had all the money. "Best" to me is something like the Zero Brew or Ode. Why? They do exactly what they are supposed to do, and they do it very well while being affordable and reasonable in size and weight. What more could I need?

It’s a common thought that the Niche does not do well for pour over, but better for espresso. If you’re looking into getting a consumer grade grinder for pour over like an Ode or Sculptor, then a 2nd one makes sense, just to simplify workflow and not either mixing grinds or wasting beans purging between them. If you’re looking more into prosumer/professional grinders, I’d lean to having it to replace both, since it’s better and hella expensive (unless that’s not an issue).

So to start, I'd say you get a flat bottom dripper instead of a v60/conical dripper. Tho if you're steadfast on this brewer then thats fine, just know that v60 tend to require precision for good brews- unless you have the perfect particle distribution on your grinder. Which brings me to another point; Coffee Grinders. Depending on how you want your coffee to taste, a grinder with a specific type of burrset will be your best friend in that situation. • Hand grinders, albeit 99% of them are conical burrs, are the cheapest and yet most flexible option for the price range. [E.g. Comandante's Nitro-blade and 1zpresso's X-series have a more sweeter profile, and K-series are more acidity driven.] • Electric grinders on the other hand tend to have a gap between conical and flat burrs for different price ranges. For v60 sweeter profile, I'd go for a flat burr grinder like Fellow Ode, Timemore sculptor, or DF54. Keep in mind that no matter which grinder, it will vary alot in terms of clarity and roundness in the cup. Also make sure you use the right water quality for brewing, as it can decide whether it will make it more difficult for you or make it easier to brew.

The slightly larger hopper on the Ode is kind of an underrated quality of life feature. Its the perfect size for doing a 60g batch brew, the catch cup is also appropriately sized to catch all of it. I have the 078S as my espresso grinder and it is def a single serve focused design. You'll be grinding 15g 4 times because you also want to cover the hopper while grinding or else the popcorning can be annoying. Also the catch cup I don't think would hold 60g so you'll be using a different one or also be doing that part in sections. Taste is king but these little things matter too!

In a similar situation but I have an Ode. I bought a K6 and am preferring it - I only make coffee for myself, so I think I’m going to sell the Ode and reclaim some kitchen space.

One thing that’s not as discussed about the 078 is it’s build quality, esp. compared to the Fellow Ode. It’s miles better and feels far more sturdy. Only issue really is the popcorning in the hopper but that’s not too bad if you take some extra care during feeding

I agree with everything said here. Try the Hoffmann single cup V60 recipe ground at about 4.5 to start, with boiling water and a light roasted coffee. 3 is way too fine for pretty much any pour over method if you are calibrated right.

Honestly, man, don’t do it. I wanted to get one grinder for both applications and tried it for a while, but for just about any grinder fully capable of going fine enough in espresso, it is going to be a big pain in the ass switching between settings. Dialing in espresso is already trying to hit a moving target as your beans age, and you make it that much harder if you switch to a coarse setting routinely. It’s just far, far better to have a dedicated grinder for each. With your budget, I would recommend getting a solid grinder for pour over like an Ode or Encore and then save up for a separate espresso grinder. And, just my two cents, you’re probably going to want to go with a hand grinder or double your budget for the espresso grinder. An electric grinder under $400 is likely going to have some major drawbacks that you will notice over time.

I’ve owned the Baratza Encore, Fellow Ode and now the 078. They clearly to me are bottom, mid and top in that order. The 078 is wildly good.