Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 with SSP MP Brew Burrs

Linea Mini R/ EK43 and Ode SSP MP

I like my zp6 better than my SSP Ode 2

I have an Ode Gen 2 with SSP, and I have really enjoyed it. However, I have a friend that has a Timemore 078 and have done brew comparisons between the grinders. I personally like the 078 better for filter and soup. 078 also has a better workflow in my opinion. Another grinder that people seem to love on this subreddit is the Femobook A4z. I don’t have any personal experience with that grinder, but you may want to consider it as well given your prince range.

I upgraded from a Baratza Encore to an Ode Gen 2 when it was first released. Huge upgrade, in my opinion. The build quality of the Ode is definitely a big improvement alone. The stock burrs on the Ode Gen 2 are a good bit better than the Encore, but the Ode with SSP MP burrs is a massive upgrade when drinking light-roast pourover

Rocking a Fellow Ode with SSP burrs for both my MM and pourovers. The coffee is through the roof. Wouldn’t pay for an SSP burr new, but have had luck on eBay getting an SSP burr or Fellow Ode with SSP burrs installed for much cheaper.

To be honest, for filter - you probably won’t be able to blind-taste the difference between the Fellow Ode with SSPs and the higher end Zerno. Returns diminish lighting fast after the Ode. There’s no grinder that excels in both filter and espresso so paying $2000 for one will likely result in disappointment, and swapping burrs constantly will suck. If you plan on having an espresso a couple times a week, a 1zpresso J-Ultra might be the best option. It’s what I do for 2-3x/week espressos and works amazingly without taking up much space. It doubles as a decent handgrinder for travel. If you want something for travel, a K-Ultra might work as well but tougher to dial in espresso.

If you ca afford it I’d go with the Ode with SSP brew burrs. I have it and I also have a ZP6. The ZP6 is nice and really punches above its weight class but the SSP brew burrs are just better in almost every aspect. Not a night and day difference but it’s noticeable.

For hand grinders I’m a fan of Comandante but some people don’t like the internal adjustment. That being said, I have a Comandante C60 with the external grind adjustment mechanism made by StarWave and it’s excellent. If I only did pour over I would be completely content with the grind quality of the Comandante. I have a Zerno Z2 on order since I also do espresso with my Odyssey Argos and 9barista machines. A Fellow Ode with SSP burrs could probably get you 80-90% of the way to the Zerno in terms of grind quality, but I figured YOLO and went straight to the end game grinder since I will be using it multiple times a day every day.

ode with ssp is the best for the price. Other than that high end one that are in the thousands.

The ode is such a nice work flow your happy to use it every day. I've had tools that work, but I'm like, "Let's get this over with" instead of enjoying it.

Oh, but you do NEED to make sure to brush the de-ionizer, or it can back up and break.

I would get an electric one, it really is worth the convenience on the days you don't want to hand grind. But the main reason is I don't think hand grinders make as good espresso, well most. They can make a soup shot so if you like light roast and dont want milk in it, they are good. If you want traditional espresso an electric would be good. Before the Sage I would look at the fellow opus or even the baratza esp which is the same brand as sage. Or if you can get a flat burr probably that 400 range unfortunetly. They have the df-54 which is cheap and the fellow ode gen 2. Not sure what type coffee you make but as long as you don't use an open face portafilter or want Turkish it works best.

The ode 2 is the best in that price range for pour over and filter. I would highly suggest getting that one. I love it.

The fellow is great for workflow and not a pain in the morning because handgrinding can suck sometimes. I might get that one, but it won't get you your daintier cups. It does produce a great cup of coffee. If you want that dainty tea like a cup, I would go with the c40 and $260 because it gives a better balanced, less citric acidic cup. Oh, and great extraction. The zp6 is too tea like more acidic, and the acidity is citric, not slick.

The ode would be good for the brevel. Depends on the style pour over you want. It can make pour over, but if you want a cleaner or balanced cup, then there are better options. For pure flavor and cup quality, the c40. I would choose electric though, so maybe an opus. Or I personally would get an ode gen2. With the esp doesn't your breville come with the same burrs? Maybe you can upgrade the burrs in the l the machine, but its calibrated for espresso and not great for pour over. With that, i would go ode gen 2, c40, opus, esp. And BTW, with pressurized baskets, the ode works great. It's not good at espresso with an open face basket.

If you can afford it, the ratio8 is supposed to be really good. Also, they have a chemex auto machine, not sure the brand, but thats good. The aiden is small and might be what you want. To get a good cup, it might be hard with the standard profile, so you might have to tinker with it. If you can get a good deal on a bonavita or mokamaster that might be worth it. BTW, the ode 2 is an amazing grinder. Its what I use in the morning. The only other one I would recommend, which is a little more, is the new mahlkonig x64sd. That's the one I wish I had.

If you can afford the timemore than I would check out the Mahlkonig x64 sd and if not that the ode gen 2 is a great grinder to use. I would stay away from the Baratza and either check out the ode or timemore second. if you get a chance to look at the new Mahlkonig that would be my #1 choice.

That's what I would suggest then. I own one and its a really good grinder. it will make some funny noises from time to time but that's normal. Beans will get stuck and it sounds awful like it's breaking but it isn't its fine. So if you see complaints about the sound that would be why, But otherwise it's very quiet and satisfying to use. The quality of the coffee is good too. Plus it's good for any type of coffee. I would say it's the best there is under 400.

The opus you'll be disappointed. If it was me I would spend 400 and get the ode gen2. Its a great grinder. Good distribution and awesome work flow.

For light roasts yes but coffee overall no. It is better work flow imo. The eureka is good for traditional while the ode shines at light roasts but in a cleaner traditional way. It isn't clarity forward like a zp6 or even the c40. If you are into specialty and light roasts the ode is worth it.

If a c40 is out then I would definitely get an ode gen2 it will get rid of that citric acidity and give more body but also sharp flavors. Its a great grinder.

It's gotten cheaper. I got mine for 260 on amazon. it has a very well balanced and structured cup with punchy flavors but not sharp or citric. Its an extremely well done cup. Also can be used for all styles of coffee. it doesnt have that very citric acid that the 1zpresso's do. I love that brand but from the way you describe it it sounds like your preference would be with the c40. Then on top of that its so comfortable to use you just space out. With other grinders you feel it cranking and catchy sometimes with the c40 it just goes through it smoothly. The only complaint is the last 2-3 beans are hard to grind. You need to stop for a second let them drop and finish grinding but that's the only thing and not a big deal.

The ode gen 2 is a solid choice. If you have the money the Mahlkonig x64sd would be best.

I just spent years buying grinders, and honestly, the fellow gen2 with gen2 burrs is not the best choice but by a lot. If you want a niche flavor profile, then there are a bunch others, but they are almost certainly to clarity forward or a hallow cup.

For durability and flavor I would pick the C40. With electric I am not sure of one I would recommend from personal experience. I have the ode gen 2 with no issues so far, but the c40 I like a lot and is known for not having issues. Not sure if manual is off the table but if not it's worth checking out. Timemore 078 or depending on taste profile the Mahlkonig x64sd. The Mahlkonig should last. It has a more traditional style cup but also good with light roasts. Timemore is known for having decent quality but not like Mahlkonig or the c40.

You're welcome! I also am annoyed by it lol. I grind the night before for my first cup and then I am awake enough to grind for the other ones. If its not super clarity you are after but just want a flavorful cup the Mahlkonig is a solid choice. The timemore for more juicy clear cups. My guess is the Mahlkonig will last longer. Also it's a neat looking grinder.

I love the ode but I wouldn't want to use that with ssp or not for a business, even a small one. Is it that price range of 400-500 you are looking for or any grinder good for the job (not too pricey). A mahlkonig could be good, not the ek43 but the new brew one. Its not that expensive I think 500 something.