Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 with SSP MP Brew Burrs

Thanks! Just got the ode 2 with SSP mp brew burrs - which burrs are you using? I haven’t recalibrated or aligned - things look pretty good from the factory. Wondering. What brew devices you use and grind settings? I’m moving between 6-7 for both chemex and switch atm, but still trying to work it out. Thanks!

For those who use ode Gen 2 (with SSP burrs ideally), have you noticed a big inconsistency with total brew times? I think the grinder is a fines machine. I’ll keep the grinder at setting 6 for instance and every brew will have a different TBT with all other variables being equal. One brew will be 4 mins, another be nearly 6 and I can’t figure out what the deal is.

I’ve been brewing pourover for the past decade, so I’d consider myself experienced. I moved to v60 about 6 months ago (Hario switch) once I got my ode Gen 2 with SSP. There has been a bit of a learning curve and I do feel I am chasing the perfect cup, having to dial in and redial in my coffees regularly. I rarely can choose a grind setting and stay there for the entirety of any given bag. I’ll have to float between 4.2-7.2 as each cup brewed can vary in tbt depending on the amount of fines produced. Technique is mostly the same always - Tetsu 4:6. I brewed a near perfect cup with a tbt of 4:30. An hour later brewed another cup and tbt was 6:00 - again, all variables being the same. This was at grind setting 6. The only thing I can think of being the issue is fines. One grind simply produced less fines than the other, which points me to inconsistent grinding with the ode Gen 2.

I’m going to try to answer your post directly here based on my opinions and experiences, but feel free to ask anything else. 1. 1zpresso X series unless you don’t mind a larger size. Then the K series is better. J is supposed to be better for espresso grind - you can dial in finer grind sizes. Q series can fit inside some of the aeropress models. It is small and uses a different adjustment and grinder that I did not prefer. So the K is the splurge or Cadillac. 1zpresso have great service, are widespread if you need new parts, and they are one of the many grinders entered in the Aeromatic app. For an electric grinder, Baratza Encore is reasonable (conical burr). I believe the splurge is the Fellow Ode gen 2. Cadillac is Fellow Ode g2 with upgraded SSP burr set. (Flat burr). Whatever you use to grind. The RDT method (a couple ml spray of water on the beans before you grind) does make your grind produce less static and helps with consistency- in my own experience. 2. For more available coffee recommendations, I like Stumptown Hairbender, or Blue Bottle stuff, Intelligencia whatever. All good, not great. For less accessible top notch: Stovetop Tilly in Grand Rapids MI, Brooklyn Roasting Company Tokyo blend, Anthology Coffee Detroit is very Fancy, CoffeeShop in San Francisco - their Columbia coffee. Dark Matter Chicago Unicorn Blood, Dark Matter Funk 17 (aeropress shot tasted like black cherry and dark chocolate. My head exploded.) Hope this helps. Always happy to chat coffee! Happy Holidays!

I’m going to try to answer your post directly here based on my opinions and experiences, but feel free to ask anything else. 1. 1zpresso X series unless you don’t mind a larger size. Then the K series is better. J is supposed to be better for espresso grind - you can dial in finer grind sizes. Q series can fit inside some of the aeropress models. It is small and uses a different adjustment and grinder that I did not prefer. So the K is the splurge or Cadillac. 1zpresso have great service, are widespread if you need new parts, and they are one of the many grinders entered in the Aeromatic app. For an electric grinder, Baratza Encore is reasonable (conical burr). I believe the splurge is the Fellow Ode gen 2. Cadillac is Fellow Ode g2 with upgraded SSP burr set. (Flat burr). Whatever you use to grind. The RDT method (a couple ml spray of water on the beans before you grind) does make your grind produce less static and helps with consistency- in my own experience. 2. For more available coffee recommendations, I like Stumptown Hairbender, or Blue Bottle stuff, Intelligencia whatever. All good, not great. For less accessible top notch: Stovetop Tilly in Grand Rapids MI, Brooklyn Roasting Company Tokyo blend, Anthology Coffee Detroit is very Fancy, CoffeeShop in San Francisco - their Columbia coffee. Dark Matter Chicago Unicorn Blood, Dark Matter Funk 17 (aeropress shot tasted like black cherry and dark chocolate. My head exploded.) Hope this helps. Always happy to chat coffee! Happy Holidays!

Rocking a Fellow Ode with SSP burrs for both my MM and pourovers. The coffee is through the roof. Wouldn’t pay for an SSP burr new, but have had luck on eBay getting an SSP burr or Fellow Ode with SSP burrs installed for much cheaper.

I did it, it still works beautifully. I want to upgrade though because I'm trying to figure out something that will work with espresso too.

I've had both. The price difference between an electric and a good hand grinder has narrowed. If I was starting over I would probably get an ode2 with brew burrs. I started with a 1zpresso jx. Not very good for filter. Then took a big step up to a comandante Mk 4. Now using ode 2 with mp burrs. Looking at varia vs6 but probably will wait at least another year or 2 to see what else comes out. Nearing end stage purchase.

I've had both. The price difference between an electric and a good hand grinder has narrowed. If I was starting over I would probably get an ode2 with brew burrs. I started with a 1zpresso jx. Not very good for filter. Then took a big step up to a comandante Mk 4. Now using ode 2 with mp burrs. Looking at varia vs6 but probably will wait at least another year or 2 to see what else comes out. Nearing end stage purchase.

I have two Odes--a gen 1 w/gen v2 burrs and gen 2 with SSP MPs. I wouldn't recommend the SSPs. The newer Fellow brew burrs are easier to dial in IMO. I have just replaced my SSP MPs with SSP Lab Sweets. They're better than the MPs for filter brew. But, I can't really say if they're worth the price for the upgrade. Obviously, this is a subjective opinion, so YMMV.

The main goal for grinders is uniformity in grind size. The cheap ones don't deliver this. They have very large and very small and everything in between. This results in a less than perfect cup. I've spent thousands on grinders starting with ultra cheap to one grinder that cost 3k. My advice would be to get a decent grinder before anything else. Right now I have a Fellow Ode for filter / pour over and a Kafetek Monolith for espresso.

I would get an electric one, it really is worth the convenience on the days you don't want to hand grind. But the main reason is I don't think hand grinders make as good espresso, well most. They can make a soup shot so if you like light roast and dont want milk in it, they are good. If you want traditional espresso an electric would be good. Before the Sage I would look at the fellow opus or even the baratza esp which is the same brand as sage. Or if you can get a flat burr probably that 400 range unfortunetly. They have the df-54 which is cheap and the fellow ode gen 2. Not sure what type coffee you make but as long as you don't use an open face portafilter or want Turkish it works best.

The ode 2 is the best in that price range for pour over and filter. I would highly suggest getting that one. I love it.

ode with ssp is the best for the price. Other than that high end one that are in the thousands.

The ode is such a nice work flow your happy to use it every day. I've had tools that work, but I'm like, "Let's get this over with" instead of enjoying it.

Oh, but you do NEED to make sure to brush the de-ionizer, or it can back up and break.

The fellow is great for workflow and not a pain in the morning because handgrinding can suck sometimes. I might get that one, but it won't get you your daintier cups. It does produce a great cup of coffee. If you want that dainty tea like a cup, I would go with the c40 and $260 because it gives a better balanced, less citric acidic cup. Oh, and great extraction. The zp6 is too tea like more acidic, and the acidity is citric, not slick.

The ode would be good for the brevel. Depends on the style pour over you want. It can make pour over, but if you want a cleaner or balanced cup, then there are better options. For pure flavor and cup quality, the c40. I would choose electric though, so maybe an opus. Or I personally would get an ode gen2. With the esp doesn't your breville come with the same burrs? Maybe you can upgrade the burrs in the l the machine, but its calibrated for espresso and not great for pour over. With that, i would go ode gen 2, c40, opus, esp. And BTW, with pressurized baskets, the ode works great. It's not good at espresso with an open face basket.

I started with a hand burr grinder, and then stepped up to an affordable electrical burr grinder. I will never go back to a hand grinder.. although when I started taking coffee more seriously, I couldn't really justify the expense of the electric. Now a decade later I've settled on two electric burr grinders. One for light and medium roast (ode 2 w/ssp) and to me what is a more forgiving baratza encore for darker roasts.. Buy what you can afford, you'll eventually upgrade!

Eagerly awaiting my Casa. I have the Ode 2 w/ Gen 2 and SSP MP burrs, but I get far more enjoyable coffee out of my Kingrinder K6. Richer fruit notes, more rounded sweetness. I experienced the same with pourover from a friend’s Niche Zero, so my current theory is that my palate just likes the profile of coffee from conical burr grinders better. Worst case, the Casa will do espresso duty and I’ll just hand-grind for filter.

Ode 2 ! And you can actually grind for espresso with the ode 2 with the SSP MP and by removing the clicks in the dial. It is not as precise as an espresso grinder but if it’s not your focus then that could work :)