Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 with SSP MP Brew Burrs

For those who use ode Gen 2 (with SSP burrs ideally), have you noticed a big inconsistency with total brew times? I think the grinder is a fines machine. I’ll keep the grinder at setting 6 for instance and every brew will have a different TBT with all other variables being equal. One brew will be 4 mins, another be nearly 6 and I can’t figure out what the deal is.

I’ve been brewing pourover for the past decade, so I’d consider myself experienced. I moved to v60 about 6 months ago (Hario switch) once I got my ode Gen 2 with SSP. There has been a bit of a learning curve and I do feel I am chasing the perfect cup, having to dial in and redial in my coffees regularly. I rarely can choose a grind setting and stay there for the entirety of any given bag. I’ll have to float between 4.2-7.2 as each cup brewed can vary in tbt depending on the amount of fines produced. Technique is mostly the same always - Tetsu 4:6. I brewed a near perfect cup with a tbt of 4:30. An hour later brewed another cup and tbt was 6:00 - again, all variables being the same. This was at grind setting 6. The only thing I can think of being the issue is fines. One grind simply produced less fines than the other, which points me to inconsistent grinding with the ode Gen 2.

I like my zp6 better than my SSP Ode 2

I have an Ode Gen 2 with SSP, and I have really enjoyed it. However, I have a friend that has a Timemore 078 and have done brew comparisons between the grinders. I personally like the 078 better for filter and soup. 078 also has a better workflow in my opinion. Another grinder that people seem to love on this subreddit is the Femobook A4z. I don’t have any personal experience with that grinder, but you may want to consider it as well given your prince range.

Rocking a Fellow Ode with SSP burrs for both my MM and pourovers. The coffee is through the roof. Wouldn’t pay for an SSP burr new, but have had luck on eBay getting an SSP burr or Fellow Ode with SSP burrs installed for much cheaper.

If you ca afford it I’d go with the Ode with SSP brew burrs. I have it and I also have a ZP6. The ZP6 is nice and really punches above its weight class but the SSP brew burrs are just better in almost every aspect. Not a night and day difference but it’s noticeable.

I have an Ode with SSP MP burrs and love it, unless you need that mobility with a hand grinder, I will go for the Ode for ease of use and option to change burrs down the line.

I would get an electric one, it really is worth the convenience on the days you don't want to hand grind. But the main reason is I don't think hand grinders make as good espresso, well most. They can make a soup shot so if you like light roast and dont want milk in it, they are good. If you want traditional espresso an electric would be good. Before the Sage I would look at the fellow opus or even the baratza esp which is the same brand as sage. Or if you can get a flat burr probably that 400 range unfortunetly. They have the df-54 which is cheap and the fellow ode gen 2. Not sure what type coffee you make but as long as you don't use an open face portafilter or want Turkish it works best.

The ode 2 is the best in that price range for pour over and filter. I would highly suggest getting that one. I love it.

ode with ssp is the best for the price. Other than that high end one that are in the thousands.

The ode is such a nice work flow your happy to use it every day. I've had tools that work, but I'm like, "Let's get this over with" instead of enjoying it.

Oh, but you do NEED to make sure to brush the de-ionizer, or it can back up and break.

The fellow is great for workflow and not a pain in the morning because handgrinding can suck sometimes. I might get that one, but it won't get you your daintier cups. It does produce a great cup of coffee. If you want that dainty tea like a cup, I would go with the c40 and $260 because it gives a better balanced, less citric acidic cup. Oh, and great extraction. The zp6 is too tea like more acidic, and the acidity is citric, not slick.

The ode would be good for the brevel. Depends on the style pour over you want. It can make pour over, but if you want a cleaner or balanced cup, then there are better options. For pure flavor and cup quality, the c40. I would choose electric though, so maybe an opus. Or I personally would get an ode gen2. With the esp doesn't your breville come with the same burrs? Maybe you can upgrade the burrs in the l the machine, but its calibrated for espresso and not great for pour over. With that, i would go ode gen 2, c40, opus, esp. And BTW, with pressurized baskets, the ode works great. It's not good at espresso with an open face basket.

If you can afford it, the ratio8 is supposed to be really good. Also, they have a chemex auto machine, not sure the brand, but thats good. The aiden is small and might be what you want. To get a good cup, it might be hard with the standard profile, so you might have to tinker with it. If you can get a good deal on a bonavita or mokamaster that might be worth it. BTW, the ode 2 is an amazing grinder. Its what I use in the morning. The only other one I would recommend, which is a little more, is the new mahlkonig x64sd. That's the one I wish I had.

If you can afford the timemore than I would check out the Mahlkonig x64 sd and if not that the ode gen 2 is a great grinder to use. I would stay away from the Baratza and either check out the ode or timemore second. if you get a chance to look at the new Mahlkonig that would be my #1 choice.

That's what I would suggest then. I own one and its a really good grinder. it will make some funny noises from time to time but that's normal. Beans will get stuck and it sounds awful like it's breaking but it isn't its fine. So if you see complaints about the sound that would be why, But otherwise it's very quiet and satisfying to use. The quality of the coffee is good too. Plus it's good for any type of coffee. I would say it's the best there is under 400.

The opus you'll be disappointed. If it was me I would spend 400 and get the ode gen2. Its a great grinder. Good distribution and awesome work flow.

For light roasts yes but coffee overall no. It is better work flow imo. The eureka is good for traditional while the ode shines at light roasts but in a cleaner traditional way. It isn't clarity forward like a zp6 or even the c40. If you are into specialty and light roasts the ode is worth it.

Eagerly awaiting my Casa. I have the Ode 2 w/ Gen 2 and SSP MP burrs, but I get far more enjoyable coffee out of my Kingrinder K6. Richer fruit notes, more rounded sweetness. I experienced the same with pourover from a friend’s Niche Zero, so my current theory is that my palate just likes the profile of coffee from conical burr grinders better. Worst case, the Casa will do espresso duty and I’ll just hand-grind for filter.

Ode 2 ! And you can actually grind for espresso with the ode 2 with the SSP MP and by removing the clicks in the dial. It is not as precise as an espresso grinder but if it’s not your focus then that could work :)

Both are excellent for and really geared toward filter/pour over. They can handle mom’s pot but not true espresso. Low end of Ode Gen 2 is around 250-300 microns and 078 is 370. The 078S and 064S can both grind finder and do True espresso. But from everything I gather, those birds don’t produce as good of a pour over cup. I had actually ordered the 078S first because I wanted to future proof it if I ever got into espresso, but ended up returning it without opening the box because I got a lot of feedback that it wasn’t as good for pour over. For what you’re looking for, Ode Gen 2 will give you most bang for your buck and pretty great price-quality ratio. The 078 is incredible and a noticeable improvement over the the Ode Gen 2, but it is basically twice the price - and the cups aren’t twice as good. Still worth it in my opinion.

Ode Gen 2 is great, as is Timemore 078 (though slightly above the budget you mentioned). I own both, and think that each offer incredible value at their price point

I have an Ode Gen 2 and Timemore 078 and couldn’t more highly recommend either, depending on how much you want to spend. Either will make a MASSIVE difference in your brews…both in quality and consistency. As I saw at least one other person mention here - you can get a great grinder cheaper if you want to go the hand grinder route. But that’s a whole nother decision and set of variables to think about

I much prefer the 078. It’s just like a better version of the Ode, in every way. But it’s 2X the price. It’s not twice as good, but enough of an improvement to be worth it. But depends on your preference. You could also get an Ode Gen 2 and a great hand grinder (like a ZP6) for less than the cost of an 078, then have the potential to create brews with two very different cup profiles. I’m a proponent of buy once cry once…or at least try. So I’d recommend going for the “best” that is in your budget. Otherwise you’ll probably be upgrading again sooner rather than later anyway….

The Ode Gen 2 was my daily driver for quite a while and for the $ it’s great. I now have the 078 for my daily electric, and also regularly use a Millab 01 and Pietro. There are already a ton of great comments giving great advice, so I’ll keep it relatively straightforward: **1) Will you be traveling much and want to do pour over while traveling? If yes go hand grinder. 2) If you won’t be traveling or wanting pour over while traveling, get the Ode.** And either way, unless you give up pour over, you’ll be buying another grinder at some point so just get whichever one you didn’t get then. Another great thing about the Ode is you can upgrade later with SSP MP’s Timemore 064 turbo/ghost burrs, or another great burr and really increase the brew quality for a reasonable cost. Btw, love the M01 and Pietro and would highly recommend either.

Nice! Let us know how you like it. A great cheat code with the Ode if you have a new bean and are not sure how to brew - google the type of bean and Fellow Take. Odds are that type of bean will be released as a Fellow Drop, and they all come with brew guides that include Ode Gen 2 grind setting recommendations. Not to say that’s the only or best way to brew the bean, but I always found it helpful to get grind size guidance like that when I wasn’t familiar with a bean.

Second the recommendations of Ode Gen 2 for electric and Millab M01 for hand grinder. I have both and think at their price points they’re tough to beat. Great thing about the Ode is if you want to step it up down the road, you have multiple great options: —For $100 you can buy 64mm Timemore turbo burrs and turn it into a poor man’s 064; or —Add SSP MP’s for elite clarity and flavor separation

Ode Gen 2 w SSP’s or Timemore 078 will both be great. I have an Ode Gen 2 with both stock and Timemore 64mm Turbo/Ghost burrs, and an 078. Don’t have the SSP’s for OG2, but know people who do and have tasted many cups from it. It really depends on the cup profile you want. 078 will give you a little bit better workflow and a more solid design and construction. The OG2 w SSP’s will give more clarity, but won’t be quite as forgiving and won’t have the same body and mouth feel. Saw someone mention the Millab M01. If you’re thinking about a hand grinder, that is also an excellent choice. I have it and it has great clarity, incredible sweetness, but also a nice body. If you are or do think about a hand grinder though, I’d recommend the Pietro with M Modal Burrs. It produces an absolutely incredible cup that most people would appreciate, and is better than anything you can get from an electric grinder under.$2-4K

If you want great clarity, the OG2 with SSP's can be a great grinder. It'll just probably take a little longer to settle in where you can get used to it and consistently get quality cups. Personally I'd prefer the Pietro over it, but that's also a hand grinder. The 064 compared to the 078 is a bit of a moot question I think because Timemore discontinued the 064 grinder - they only offer the 064S, which isn't as good for filter IMO. And they've been out of the 064 turbo burrs forever so not sure they will ever be restocking them. And I didn't really get enough time in with the 064 turbos before upgrading to my 078. But all that being said - I preferred the turbos on my Ode over the stock burrs, but much prefer the 078. Just seemed to have more clarity, and better mouthfeel/body.