It appears to me that the [DF54 + brew burrs would cost $278](https://miicoffee.shop/products/miicoffee-df54-single-dose-coffee-grinder?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=18519892019&gbraid=0AAAAAD8Pi-9VSBAWuZeDltVklpRTdLCw_&gclid=CjwKCAiAuIDJBhBoEiwAxhgyFsG_4rrUqB3UmCfk4saK3vTK8GGOBRBaIiuwcw9GR2yRB-lEKb4SgRoCI1YQAvD_BwE) while the [Ode Gen 2 is $319.95 for Black Friday](http://amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BLRMCM9Y/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&aaxitk=6d5c2cd129cfd9988c359614670f2505&hsa_cr_id=0&qid=1763741962&sr=1-2-9e67e56a-6f64-441f-a281-df67fc737124&ref_=sbx_s_sparkle_sbtcd_asin_1_title&pd_rd_w=0HAUh&content-id=amzn1.sym.9f2b2b9e-47e9-4764-a4dc-2be2f6fca36d%3Aamzn1.sym.9f2b2b9e-47e9-4764-a4dc-2be2f6fca36d&pf_rd_p=9f2b2b9e-47e9-4764-a4dc-2be2f6fca36d&pf_rd_r=WD1NQZM0YGHBX0CYDQPD&pd_rd_wg=WeuMP&pd_rd_r=8040fe77-db06-4811-8ef2-e39986f26ab0), assuming you are in the US. That's still a $40 difference.
What are you looking for in your brews, and what coffees do you prefer?
Well, the DF54 + brew burrs would have that high clarity profile you want. The Ode Gen 2 provides a more blended flavor profile that is quite forgiving, while still offering good clarity.
That’s amazing! 225 GBP is a great price for an Ode 2! Seems to be an uncommonly low price, as a matter of fact—roughly 25% cheaper than what it costs in the US. 275 GBP for a K-Ultra, OTOH is a lot—more than 50% pricier than what it costs in the US.
Ode Gen 2, DF54 w/brew burrs, or Eureka Filtro/Crono are your choices. A4Z if you can get it. Don’t know if Femobook ships to France, but here is a link to their online store: https://femobook.myshopify.com/
The Ode Gen 2 is more than up to the task. But IMHO, you don’t even need to spend that much because you drink dark roast. The Baratza Encore will easily meet your needs. If you are in the US, the [Shardor 64](https://www.amazon.com/SHARDOR-Professional-Adjustable-Electronic-Anti-Static/dp/B0DRF9PB58/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35TPCTU6R65G2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VZ4jgbRdCyTAFIJn42ouC2ZhxRSyEIyoOwOyPn0nIrg0aegalqOaVZuMrcd-ebOcJCWYkNZRWcn-8tN_weRpijplbwSSmiHc2FWqc9jPtLek0b0Jg3eXHm1qeY0vdZ2j_Ti056CaCubz64tFIPAvZxIqbmDV81y0xa2-jH2Lq6OfGlpbdxEuTOFNyHJVspP0jMZ76Pxc92pGMcAHd_VJeifcHi7nb-9DDeZcFHx1COgz4hYUkxuKOwP1Vsu72TTY_PJ4FBuDDPreFdLGpmbC74qaqek9onA39Z56wJlcVL8.7QPBDJdXHFukiCMhT2qFF1s9-kO4rdVU0EjrLfHQxyM&dib_tag=se&keywords=shardor+64mm+flat+burr+grinder&qid=1774101455&sprefix=Shardor%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1) or [MOKKOM 64](https://www.amazon.com/MOKKOM-Professional-Adjustable-Electronic-Anti-Static/dp/B0F1YMTR1R/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=33N6WBXTLCBF2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.33mMxN3B9NteMcbTahPMa1tAX7lwdJUwd8Jvd7p3aehXBawjhpPXLlOeu6f6sVn90qvKouA8nHaoGTnhZKyC6MiA76yS1pGEift-62fld-yjneDiVXiSsKDuOUD5EfCY71jaEyv6axCxbptiaeOP99Sw3FWphdLfjJSoN5LRS2tnY42MwZ8ukyRC0HDJOgaNTWKA7PKlz0RX1rIbjTfl9g5bCxIlDrLiY7BxVrHcsX1Or01J_6Ks_PGSSSmRXRF1Hr_Qj7XDyleRr-CgoGdRiA.ePcdVAl7wgpyHMivJ79Pb7C6aNf4MK3RgKqkzPSQG3s&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mokkom+64mm+flat+burr+grinder&qid=1774101525&sprefix=mokkom+64mm+flat+burr+grinder%2Caps%2C116&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1) are absolutely killer at their price points.
The DF64 V2 is perfectly fine for your use case, especially if you get it with the DLC burrs. The people who don’t prefer the DF64 V2 for filter coffee are mostly people who make manual pourover brewing light or ultralight roasts. Those people are looking for a lot of clarity and flavor separation in their cups, so they can taste the fruity notes that many of them chase. You drink dark roast coffee, where honestly, you don’t necessarily want to chase that kind of clarity and flavor separation.
The DF64 v2 should have no issue grinding 40-60g batches. Especially at filter grind sizes. I would not worry one bit about overheating or jamming.
Taste Is subjective. People can taste the difference between the Ode Gen 2 and the DF64 v2 stock burrs, but again—those comparisons are invariably made by people brewing and drinking light/ultralight roasts. You drink dark roasts. If anything, I think the DF64 v2 w/ red titanium burrs will be better suited for dark roasts than the Ode Gen 2.
I have the Pietro with the brew burrs. I also have the Ode 2 with stock burrs. I like having both options for pour overs. I drink mostly light and ultra light roasts and enjoy various processes. I find that when the Pietro’s clarity isn’t getting the most out of a specific bean, the ode 2 is different enough to get a sweeter cup.
I just went down the rabbit hole for pourover grinders. After reading and watching too many reviews and threads, I ended up with the ubiquitous Ode 2 with the 2nd gen burrs. Coming from a Baratza Encore, the difference was huge. My wife, not nearly into coffee as much, remarked on the significant difference in the coffee.
For me, a/the major tipping point was my goal to emulate a shop that made the best pourover I've ever had\* - they use the Ode 2 in their commercial environment for their pourovers. If it's good enough for them, and produces the exceptional coffee they make, it's more than enough for me.
I think you'll always find critics for every grinder, but the reviews on the Ode 2 are generally very positive, the price point is good, and there seem to be very few issues with the grinder. Consensus seems to be no need for the SSP burrs unless you want an espresso grind. As a drip guy, not an issue for me.
(Just don't use the catch cup lid. It's truly stupid and does absolutely nothing. Using the catch cup without the lid, I don't get *any* mess.)
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\*The shop is [Out of Order](https://www.outoforder.coffee/) coffee in Saskatoon, Canada. Coferment trigger warning: >!The beans were [Traffic's Sublime](https://www.trafficcoffee.com/products/sublime?_pos=1&_sid=ec94ee09c&_ss=r&variant=42371472457794), from MTL, Canada.!<
I've been using the Gen 2 Ode since 2023. I previously used hand grinders (a Zassenhaus from 2007 to 2018, then a Lido ET from 2018 to 2023). While I love the routine of hand grinding, I really love that the process is overall less fiddly. The Ode 2 doesn't need a ton of adjustment. It is fairly easy to clean once a week. And the results have exceeded my expectations. As others have mentioned, with a little RDT it isn't too messy.
I brew every day, grinding at least 30 grams of coffee and sometimes 60 to 75 grams. I typically go through a bag of coffee every 10 to 14 days, though sometimes have two or three in rotation at once. Most beans I grind are light to light-medium, though occasionally I have a very light roast. It doesn't struggle with any of those.
The only major grind frustration is with a certain Nicaragua Pacamara with gigantic beans that are too big for the auger and don't always feed well.
Honestly none of these are bad options. It's just going to come down to what you prefer. The K6 may give you the most options as it's supposed to be great for filter and also espresso capable, I haven't used it but I would wager that it's probably a better espresso grinder than the Encore.
However if you're not interested at all in espresso then the Fellow Ode 2 is probably the best option here for filter coffee. It has flat burrs instead of the conical burrs you usually get in hand grinders and common electric grinders - and many people prefer flat burrs for filter coffee because they tend to produce a more uniform grind size, which can lead to a cleaner tasting cup with more clarity.
The downside to the Ode 2 is it's obviously not as portable as the K6, it's more expensive and it's not designed for espresso at all so if you ever want to try making espresso you'll need a whole new second grinder. Obviously that's not an issue if you don't intend to use for espresso.
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