Fiorenzato - AllGround Sense

Is the Fiorenzato All Ground Sense a bad grinder?

You made the right choice considering the price. I like both brands. There is also a brand called Kafatek which is twice as expensive.

Boy, the Fiorenzato AllGround Sense is a beauty (with a price to match--makes the Niche Zero seem cheap by comparison, lol). The/a only question in my mind is, just as when I went from manual to power windows in my second car: is there now more to break down and have to repair in costly fashion (the answer with my VW: yes). There indeed may be a certain reliability with a tried-and-true, non-electronic grinder (albeit, my lust still remains).

Yep, I've seen the retention factor mentioned with the grinder, :( Some people have noted using the AGS in a (somewhat) single-dose fashion with a single-dose hopper + bellows to deal with that (essentially mimicking Fiorenzato's non-GBW, similar grinder), but then there's a bit of (conflict) with the machine's GBW facility/benefit. A thought I had would be, use the AGS, with single-dose hopper + bellows, in single-dose fashion, but load the single-dose hopper with multiple doses (e.g. 3+) at a time--that would still allow taking advantage of the grinder's GBW function and perhaps/hopefully still allow enough air through to support the benefits of bellows-ing, and with the further benefit of limiting, compared to the regular beans hopper, the amount of beans getting less fresh through air-exposure.

depending on budget i'd hit the allground sense from fiorenzato or the etzinger etzmax.

I was in the same boat just a week back. Have sette 270 was looking for a decent flat burr grinder. Shortlisted couple of options, Eureka SD Pro (just launched, in future can be used with different burr offerings from Eureka they about to launch them), Eureka Libra 65 All Purpose and Fioranzato All Ground Sense. Finally took a plunge and ordered Fioranzato and could not be happier. Though it is just a couple of days only but blown away with the build quality, user interface and easier burr access. Note: I would not be selling my Sette 270, as conical have their own perks. https://preview.redd.it/188zpnpuof6e1.jpeg?width=4160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e350a9c03b376d20edf8de9112a590f9e6473b10

Ordered a sense. We’ll see 🤷🏼‍♂️

The fio is SICK

I’m not sure I understand. I bought one. It is awesome

Philos if you want to single dose, you can change burrs if you want. Or Fioranzato All ground (or All ground sense but more expensive) if you don't change often coffee, don't care about single dosing, and you don't want to spend all of your budget. I wouldn't buy any of those Turin or whatever, I get the hype, but you can buy something build better all around. That you can use for espresso and others technique. And most important, with warranty and good customer service in your area. Light roast espresso, is hard to do and not for everyone, as another said. And yes, is a drastic difference. Like day and night.