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DF54 Series
Great value for espresso, but clogs and poor for pour-over.

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Silvia Pro X + Eureka Libra or Fiorenzato AllGround Sense all come in white, great machines, and would come in a little under the $3500 USD price tag here in Aus There's other good grinder options too, but I'm a sucker for GBW
Interesting. I think you might need a bigger basket. I have an Fiorenzato Allground Sense and a Etzinger EtzMax LM, so I understand how the Sette 270wi workflow is better (the EtzMax is like an upgraded Sette). I have had some clumping with the Allground, but it hasn’t been major, I suspect that it depends on the types of beans we’re using. I think the Allground isn’t that hard to dial in, but you have to sacrifice a lot of beans since you need to toss out a dose with every adjustment to account for the retention. The Sette/EtzMax don’t retain much, so they are a lot of responsive to adjustments. The Allground grinds are fluffier that the EtzMax grinds and take up more space in the basket.
I have my Gaggiuino paired with an AllGround Sense
Hello everyone, I own a La Marzocco Linea Mini R along with an Allground Sense GbW and a Ceado E6P (the second one for decaf espresso). After I was about to pull the trigger on the Mahlkönig E65S GbW, I had an idea of how I could convince my wife of the overpriced Weber Workshops EG-1: with a single-dose grinder, we would have one less grinder in the household, meaning a cleaner kitchen (aesthetics are very important). After watching every video and reading pretty much all forum posts in germany and abroad about the EG-1 (no, I don't want to buy the P80 instead) – almost all of them focus on light to medium-dark roast espresso and pour over with the EG-1. For dark roasts, I often read that the core burrs supplied with the Mk.3 are not as good as the base burrs of the old versions, which are no longer sold. I would also be open to trying medium-dark roasts for the EG-1, but I currently drink a lot of cappuccino, for which dark roasts are more suitable as far as I understand (I'm happy to be convinced otherwise). Now to my question: is the EG-1 Mk.3 a good idea for dark roasts (regardless of the price)?
Yeah that’s what I figure. Still I’m also drinking espresso from time to time aswell as some guests - and with the current grinder it’s hard (for me) to really find the sweet spot
Mainly because I fell in love with the looks and the workflow of EG-1. Asking here because I wanted to make sure it’s not - regardless of the price - a bad decision that would negatively impact the extraction compared to other grinders out there in this price range. Another reason maybe is that because it’s the LMLM R which the grinder is basically for, I also want to have (one of the) very best grinders out there, no matter the price
AG Sense owner here. 2-4 shots a day. Breeze to adjust, breeze to take apart the burrs to clean. UI is great, nothing fancy just works. If I had it to do over again I’d buy it again. For $1k I don’t think it can be beat.
| Grinder | Burrs & size | GBW style | Best use case | Notable strengths | Main drawbacks | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Baratza Vario W+ | 54 mm flat steel burrs, home‑oriented | GBW only, into bin | Home espresso + filter | Versatile, compact, good value; designed for home duty | Lighter build than Forte; GBW not into PF by default | | Baratza Forte AP | 54 mm flat **ceramic** flat burrs | Time or GBW, PF or bin | All‑purpose, espresso‑forward; home or low‑volume café | Commercial‑grade build, 260 stepped settings, by‑time or by‑weight, PF holder, stronger motor than Vario | Louder and pricier than Vario; still 54 mm vs 64–75 mm class | | Eureka Mignon Libra | 55 mm flat, espresso oriented | GBW into PF | Compact home espresso GBW | Quiet, small footprint, accurate GBW into PF | Less heavy‑duty than Atom; retention only “okay” | | Eureka Atom W65/W75 | 65/75 mm espresso burrs | GBW, hands‑free PF | Prosumer / light‑commercial espresso bar | Fast, quiet, very slick PF‑docking GBW workflow | Large, expensive; overkill for light use | | Mahlkönig E64 WS | 64 mm GBW espresso grinder | GBW, hopper‑fed | High‑end home / prosumer espresso | Very consistent, “pro” feel, strong value in 64 mm GBW segment | Bigger and more industrial feel; louder than a Mignon | | Fiorenzato All Ground Sense | 64 mm multi‑purpose burrs | GBW, multi‑mode | Smart, feature‑rich home grinder (espresso + brew) | Highly regarded performance, flexible modes, modern UX; often rated ahead of Eureka GBW line overall | Retention only average; price above entry GBW options |

Multiple Brands
DF54 Series
Great value for espresso, but clogs and poor for pour-over.

OPTION-O
Lagom Casa
Versatile, premium build, high clarity; slow for large volumes.

Niche Coffee Ltd
Niche Zero
Durable, easy workflow, great for dark roasts, not light.

Fellow
Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 Series
Excellent for filter/pour-over, but cannot grind for espresso.

Baratza
Encore™ ESP Pro
Durable, repairable, versatile, but loud, messy, poor for light roasts.

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Multiple Brands - DF54 Series

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Mazzer - Philos

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Baratza - Encore™ ESP Pro

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Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 Series