Fiorenzato - AllGround Sense

TL;DR: I have only one grinder that I use acros the range. My Fiorenzato AllGround Sense does a great, consistent grid from pour over to espresso. If I did a lot of French press, I might still need a mortar & pestle. I have a Fiorenzato AllGround Sense which, I believe, is just over the 1K$ US threshold. I've had two Baratza's (ESP and Sette 270wi) that did espresso to my liking at the very edge of their range but the motors both died. I then got a flat burr grinder that ground well with more range for espresso but was still in the price range of the Baratzas (400US or so) I won't name the grinder as I neither wish to defend or debate it but the motor also died. I did some research and bought the AllGround Sense for it's beefy motors and because I now had the taste for flat burrs. I've never used the finer third of the dial as for my beans and tastes, it's fine ... enough. I grind some decaf drip for my wife, do some pour overs for friends and have developed a sense of where the dial needs to be. I suspect that the first time I do a dark French press it may not have a fine enough setting bit that day may never come.

Is the Fiorenzato All Ground Sense a bad grinder?

You made the right choice considering the price. I like both brands. There is also a brand called Kafatek which is twice as expensive.

Boy, the Fiorenzato AllGround Sense is a beauty (with a price to match--makes the Niche Zero seem cheap by comparison, lol). The/a only question in my mind is, just as when I went from manual to power windows in my second car: is there now more to break down and have to repair in costly fashion (the answer with my VW: yes). There indeed may be a certain reliability with a tried-and-true, non-electronic grinder (albeit, my lust still remains).

Yep, I've seen the retention factor mentioned with the grinder, :( Some people have noted using the AGS in a (somewhat) single-dose fashion with a single-dose hopper + bellows to deal with that (essentially mimicking Fiorenzato's non-GBW, similar grinder), but then there's a bit of (conflict) with the machine's GBW facility/benefit. A thought I had would be, use the AGS, with single-dose hopper + bellows, in single-dose fashion, but load the single-dose hopper with multiple doses (e.g. 3+) at a time--that would still allow taking advantage of the grinder's GBW function and perhaps/hopefully still allow enough air through to support the benefits of bellows-ing, and with the further benefit of limiting, compared to the regular beans hopper, the amount of beans getting less fresh through air-exposure.

Game changer was going from a Specialita (outstanding) to the All Ground Sense, GBW. Got on special for ESC, but has changed the game. The ease of switching from espresso to pour over plus the GBW has been outstanding. Would never go back, and didn’t really think it would make a difference

I was in the same boat just a week back. Have sette 270 was looking for a decent flat burr grinder. Shortlisted couple of options, Eureka SD Pro (just launched, in future can be used with different burr offerings from Eureka they about to launch them), Eureka Libra 65 All Purpose and Fioranzato All Ground Sense. Finally took a plunge and ordered Fioranzato and could not be happier. Though it is just a couple of days only but blown away with the build quality, user interface and easier burr access. Note: I would not be selling my Sette 270, as conical have their own perks. https://preview.redd.it/188zpnpuof6e1.jpeg?width=4160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e350a9c03b376d20edf8de9112a590f9e6473b10

Fiorenzato All Ground Sense has been amazing.

Ordered a sense. We’ll see 🤷🏼‍♂️

The fio is SICK

I’m not sure I understand. I bought one. It is awesome

Philos if you want to single dose, you can change burrs if you want. Or Fioranzato All ground (or All ground sense but more expensive) if you don't change often coffee, don't care about single dosing, and you don't want to spend all of your budget. I wouldn't buy any of those Turin or whatever, I get the hype, but you can buy something build better all around. That you can use for espresso and others technique. And most important, with warranty and good customer service in your area. Light roast espresso, is hard to do and not for everyone, as another said. And yes, is a drastic difference. Like day and night.