
Multiple Brands
DF54 Series
Great value for espresso, but clogs and poor for pour-over.
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What kind of ratios are pulling on it? I just got a 2018 Kafatek flat and I made some light roasts this morning that was honestly probably overly acidic for what I’m used to. That being said I run almost all of my shots for all roasts on as a 1:2 in about 25secs. I haven’t felt the need to fine tune so I don’t. Except for this morning where I’m thinking I should go back to exploring a 1:3 or so. Any input is appreciated.
La Marzocco GS3MP, Kafatek conical and Kafatek Max.
I upgraded from a Niche Zero to a Kafatek Monolith MAX. The difference was huge.
I have the flat max with SW burrs and it's a pretty big disappointment for espresso and filter methods. I am thinking about buying the LM burrs or EKB burrs.
I've searched far and wide and I cannot find a single user account of comparing SW to LM burrs. I know Hoffman had a Max with SW burrs but I don't think I've ever seen him even mention having/tasting coffee from LM burrs before. And I know for sure in a video where BQ tried the LM, CR, and I think SSP brew burrs, there were comments saying they'd let him try their SW burrs but still have never seen a BQ video or comment of his saying he eventually tried the SW burrs. So I'm going to assume they BQ probably either never tried it, or he did and definitely didn't like it to the LMs or CRs, otherwise there would be some sort of documented footage or comments about it.
Absolutely. Z2 looks better, is functionally better, smaller, machined better, not owned by dickheads and they actually appreciate user feedback and incorporate updates. The angle creates more problems than it solves, which is my biggest hatred with the fucking flat max. Also it's less fun to use, shit always gets stuck in either the top hopper lip or the actual lower hopper or shards of popcorning sprayed everywhere in the lower hopper, and fines glommed up in the exit chute and along the burr edges. I just fail to see why anyone thinks it's so great for espresso anyway. There's less of these issues with filter coffee grinding. Vertical mounted burrs with horizontal feeds are so much more superior, it's just all those frustrations are not visible, they're down in the grind chamber. A few smacks of the top of the hopper tends to push most of it out. The baffles don't work worth a damn on the flat max
I got the launch edition of the z1 and it performs better than any kafatek grinder or the 078 IMO. I have every 64mm burr on the market and it makes those burrs perform so much better than in the shitty ass ode or df64.
We have an EG1 and both the core and ultra burrs. The burr changing is easy but annoying when you want to drink different coffees during the day (I WFH). So right now it’s got the core burrs in for espresso and I use a C40 for pour over. However, we placed a deposit for a Flat Max so that it becomes our dedicated espresso grinder and the EG1 for pour over with ULF.
I use my MC6 for pour over and it’s my favorite pour over grinder. I like body and prioritize it over clarity but it is still really good at highlighting the tasting notes — best of both worlds in my view. The Max is more clarity focused. I have a flat burr grinder as well and prefer it for americanos (it dilutes better to my taste) but for espresso and pour over my favorite grinder of all is the MC6, even for light roast. Everyone’s tastes are different and of course if you can try all of the options, even better. The Kafatek SDRM is also an interesting option for you as it’s designed to work great for everything but it does come at the expense of body in my view.

Multiple Brands
DF54 Series
Great value for espresso, but clogs and poor for pour-over.

OPTION-O
Lagom Casa
Versatile, premium build, high clarity; slow for large volumes.

Niche Coffee Ltd
Niche Zero
Durable, easy workflow, great for dark roasts, not light.

Fellow
Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 Series
Excellent for filter/pour-over, but cannot grind for espresso.

Baratza
Encore™ ESP Pro
Durable, repairable, versatile, but loud, messy, poor for light roasts.

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Mazzer - Philos

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Baratza - Encore™ ESP Pro

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Fellow - Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 Series