Mini G

i have a [Profitec Pro t64](https://www.profitec-espresso.com/en/products/pro-t64) and have been very keen on it. It's a stable workhorse grind-by-demand grinder that's been solid. But. i've just ordered the new [Mazzer Mini G](https://www.mazzer.com/en/product/mini-g/) because i want to grind by weight. it should arrive in a week or 3.

yes! i was able to play with it with the importer and it's really well built. ordered on the spot.

I've had the Mazzer mini G for about 2 weeks. Have used the E65 and E80 GBW's extensively too. Mazzer is a perfect home choice. Consistent, easy to use and tastes great

A little slower but not an issue for home. Much smaller than even the E65 which is great. Quite simple and works great!

That mini g has horrible retention like 8gs and according to recent reviews ,it's not a great grinder, people are already returning it

i have an atom 75 and i love it. better shots than i got from my mazzer mini plus its quieter and much faster. love the setting knob for grind, and the controls.

Your OXO grinder is going to be the bottleneck here, more than the machine as you start to scale up. I started with an old Breville myself and didn't start pulling shots the way I actually wanted them until I upgraded to a good grinder, I splurged and bought a Mini Mazzer grinder - it was a big purchase at the time but I've had mine for 20 years now and it's been flawless through multiple espresso machine upgrades. For your budget, I'd grab the Bambino Plus and put the rest toward a quality grinder like a Eureka Mignon Notte (on a budget) or used Mazzer if you can find one. The grinder is honestly where much of the magic happens, and like buying guitars, once you get the bug you'll keep wanting to upgrade anyway so might as well invest in something that'll last.

☝️this, I have 2 Mazzer Minis for regular and decaf espresso, and a baratza mainly for French Press and cold brew

Glad you are exploring the world of espresso. The Niche Zero is so cool looking. And at your current and aspiring level of skill, should satisfy for a long time. I have an old Mazzer Mini. The Niche is so much easier on the eyes and quieter and so user friendly to dial in for different beans. Plumbing in takes you to next level of convenience and water managment. The better machines are monsters. So what?! A heat exchanger may be smaller. I think they are great. Other than the cooling flush, they do the job. Nuova Simonelli has a nice look. I am partial to Quick Mill, or Izzo. LIke the Vivi. Keep in mind its a a bit of a messy hobby. Grinding coffee is messy. You need a space that isn't taking up other kitchen areas. Have fun. Home Barista has great forums. And many useful tips

Consider this and the link to "choosing an espresso machine rationally" [https://www.home-barista.com/advice/izzo-alex-duetto-iv-4-year-review-t102661.html](https://www.home-barista.com/advice/izzo-alex-duetto-iv-4-year-review-t102661.html) Plus, you have to get a good to excellent grinder. Another rabbit hole for you. As important or more so. I have a Quick Mill Vetrano. My first one lasted almost 20 years. Another great unit that doesn’t get enough chatter on these forums is the. Izzo Alex Duetto. It’s a tried and true built like a tank. I had the Bianca for a couple weeks. It felt flimsy to me. So I exchanged it for the Vetrano 2B Evo. Chris Coffee has a one month return policy they honored with zero friction. Mark over there is a really good advisor. Their customer support is next level. So keep in mind the Vendor you are buying from. And think about what water you will be using. I agree with this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3-ixio7fSg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3-ixio7fSg) and to me flow control adds unncecessary complexity. Beans and grinder way more important Maybe a Quick Mill Silvano with thermoblock for steam will fill the bill. Get an excellent grinder. I have a Niche Zero and an old Mazzer Mini. Another plug for Chris Coffee

It is the internet, with a global reach. Many of the subs and forums get dominated by people who need to tell why they are right and you are wrong. Having owned a DF64 and found it to be one of the loudest, most unreliable grinders backed with no customer service, I have had in 40 years, I would say well done you dodged a bullet. Anything by Option O gets my vote (I have a P64 now, owned a Mini and tested a Casa and P100). The cheaper Eurekas I like as hopper fed grinders, but not single dose (the adjustment is not consistent). Niche Zero (I have one) is bombproof, quiet and lovely adjustment. However, more of a traditional darker to medium roast grinder. A used Mazzer SJ or Mini would be bombproof and a good find.

You could get something like a used Mazzer Super Jolly or Mini, they are a lot more robust and inexpensive to repair, including replacing burrs. They are basically bombproof. You should get a used one for under your budget (but I don't know your used coffee appliance market, although I have had great coffee in Chang Mai when visiting as a tourist).

I had a couple of their Mini’s and highly highly recommend them to anybody new to prosumer gear since they last forever are very simple to work on and you can find them sometimes for 300 to 400 dollars in great shape. Just look for one that was privately owned. Now I have a CEADO it was supposed to be a big step up to go back to a mazzer, even though I am looking at some higher end grinders these days. I also had one of these in an apartment that we just sold all the contents of. I like the dosing a lot, but it made a big mess. https://thekitchenbarista.com/products/eureka-mignon-specialita-flat-burr-coffee-grinder-chrome

Looking for the same, with one more feature that may not exist. I can stretch the budget for the right grinder Been using a mazzer mini for 15 years. It's a stellar workhorse that will outlast it's new owners grandchildren. It's also extremely loud. The other issue, which may be common on all grinders, so please comment, is this workhorse takes 3 shots to really adjust to a new setting. Does a grinder exist that grinds and clears entirely of coffee so that you can adjust and not have to burn through a couple shots? The issue is the mazzer leaves residual coffee in the chamber.