I love the Philos. My other Jolly lasted years—I'm talking like 10! I'm sure this thing will last another 10; it's built like a tank. A little big, but it doesn't take up as much space because it's big front to back versus side to side. Everything works great, even the metals they chose. I have like no coffee anywhere after several weeks of using it; it's crazy how good it is. Of course, this is my opinion, but I have owned five different grinders, and this is by far my favorite for a whole bunch of reasons, including cleaning.
I am AuDHD and have this flavour of neurodivergent noise “fun” aka torture. I have a Zerno Z1 and it’s not especially noisy. It’s near silent with AirPods Pro in on noise cancelling mode. I also cannot hear it when I use my custom IEMs.
I had the Niche Zero and the Duo. The Zero was pretty quiet. I think flat burr grinders have a higher pitched scream than conical - but the Z1 is fairly quiet to me. I sold the Niche grinders.
I also have an “AliExpress copy” of the HG-1 grinder which cost me around £400 a few years back. It is very quiet because you control the speed of the grinding with the wheel. So this is mainly the sound of crunching coffee beans and a low mechanical rumble of intermeshing gears.
Do not buy a Mazzer Super Jolly. That thing was loud!
I am happy to record the sounds of these machines if you want.
Oh and to fully answer your question, the Z1 doesn’t have much in the way of safety features so you can absolutely load the hopper with a measured dose of beans (I use 17.5 or 18g) and leave it switched on…. via a smart switch like a Kasa Smart Plug. I use these for some of my home lights. The smart switch can be operated from your phone or you can ask a home assistant like google home / Alexa or whatever to turn it on/off.
Mine came from a Vietnamese bakery and was a doser super jolly, had yeaaaars of caked on oil and the beans were gross. But I got it for $150 when they retail for $1200 new and regularly sold for $500 at the time.
They were listed under coffee machine and grinder, the machine was a huge commercial job and this had no information listed at all on it, figured out what it was from photos
A little tip for the OP, a good grinder can make a world of difference. I'm not recommending you spend a fortune that you don't have.
But my progression went from a Rocky Rancilio to a Mazzer Super Jolly Electronic, to a Compak E10 conical, and now I have my end game, Mahlkonig E80S. Whilst I noticed increases in quality in the cup with each grinder change, I was not prepared for the jump in quality when I got the Mahlkonig. It was the second biggest single improvement to home coffee, behind home roasting.
The key is consistency in particle size. A lesser grinder will have a wide bell curve between the smallest and largest particle size, with a good grinder having a much narrower variance.
There is a lot more to good coffee at home, so enjoy the journey and congrats on the machine, have fun!
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