CF64V

Well, yea—it’s a $400 grinder. There are going to be compromises. Not sure what you mean by trying for the right price. It costs what it costs. Unless you find one used or it goes on sale for Black Friday, it will cost $400. If you want variable RPM, the cheapest option is the [CF64V for $399 on Amazon.](https://www.amazon.com/CF64V-Grinder-Turin-Variable-Single/dp/B0FGB9656V/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UHV0YAHRJL1W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xAKJNpnKPjm7v0b6GWow17DLing-oaQz_tudKmLJwOE.Z5vehQJVsGLPAioAznCbgcK7Y9zGFoQZRE6u4g6ge8A&dib_tag=se&keywords=cf64v&qid=1762110797&sprefix=CF6%2Caps%2C283&sr=8-1) Stock burrs on the CF64V aren’t as good as the stock Ode Gen 2 burrs for pourover, since they’re meant to be used for both espresso and pourover. While the Ode Gen 2 is filter only.

I have the CF64V and a 1zpresso Kmax. Only bought the CF64V when I got an espresso machine. The Kmax is perfectly capable of great espresso, but it's a fair bit of effort to grind the beans, and constantly switching between filter and espresso grind settings was annoying. The CF64V is excellent, but it's not without problems. I was using it for both filter and espresso for a while, and it's good for both. The 1zpresso is IMO a little better for filter, but that's a pretty high bar to measure against. For espresso, the CF64V is better than the 1zpresso. The main issue with the CF64V if you're using it for both is that the dial is only held in place with a single grub screw, which is too small and short for the job, so it can slip. I've replaced mine with a better one, and it seems to have eliminated that problem. I don't vary the speed much. I've tried a few different settings but I haven't been scientific about it. Not really noticed a difference. The biggest thing I'd recommend if you get one is slow feeding it. It makes a massive difference to the shot time and flavour, although you end up using a finer grind setting. Lance Hedrick actually goes into a bit of detail about slow feeding in his video about variable RPMs.

This is probably the best value for money setup you'll find for a machine and an electric grinder. I've got the CF64V (different model from the same company). A hand grinder such as 1zpresso will save a fair bit of money for excellent quality, but it depends on if you want to go to the extra effort. In the same way, a manual lever espresso machine will get you better espresso, but definitely a steeper learning curve. I went straight in for this with a second hand la pavoni from eBay, and got a service kit for it (not a difficult job to do). With a few upgrades, I'd say it's the best value machine with end game potential for most people, but definitely harder to master.

IDK, I use a Niche Zero.. it works amazing for Moka Before that I used a CF64V Both are likely more than you need, but they make great coffee!

Hey everyone, I’m looking to add a dedicated filter grinder to my setup. My current grinders are great for espresso, but I’m just not getting that super clean, tea-like clarity I want out of pour overs and French press. Right now I’m running: Niche Zero (daily espresso) CF64V (mostly for experimenting with modern espresso) They both do their job, but for filter they lean a bit too “rounded” and blended. I’m chasing more separation—floral notes, acidity, all that good stuff you get from lighter roasts when things really dial in. A few things I’m trying to stick to: Electric only (not looking to hand grind right now) Prefer solid build quality — I’m a little wary of stuff that feels too plasticky or has known QC quirks unless the cup quality really justifies it Budget is ideally under $1k, but I can stretch if there’s a real jump in performance Grinders I’ve been looking at: Timemore 078 — seems like people love it for clarity, but I’m curious about long-term reliability Mazzer Philos — expensive, but looks built like a tank. Is it actually worth it for filter? Zerno Z1 — I know the wait is brutal, but is it basically endgame for this? Also wondering if I should just upgrade burrs/alignment on the CF64V instead of going for a whole new grinder, or if something like 78mm burrs is really a different experience for filter. Would love to hear what you all think, especially if you’ve compared these side by side or found any sleeper options I should be looking at. Thanks in advance.

Yeah I’ve definitely looked at the Casa — it’s a beautiful machine and the build quality seems really solid from everything I’ve seen. For me it’s more that I’m specifically trying to push into that super high-clarity profile for light roasts.  Since I already have a CF64V (flat burr) and a Niche (conical), I’m not sure the Casa would really add anything new to the setup vs what I already have. What I’m really after is really clean separation for pour over where you can clearly pick apart individual notes. Or am I underestimating it's ability?

Haven’t had the Niche long, but I’m loving it for milk drinks. Reaching for it more than my CF64V right now—definitely honeymoon phase 😅 But I can easily say not a regret.

Yeah, light roasts are going to be harder to hand grind, but it is possible with a little muscle. It's easier to grind than on the jultra than a lot of other hand grinders. I don't knowyoure budget on grinder, but i have a cf64, and it's been outstanding. It's made by the same company that does the df64, but i believe it's a better setup than the df64.

Cf64v is a fantastic grinder for $500. I've had mine for 6 months now and haven't had a single problem. Super low retention and no static issue like with the df64.

I mainly drink light roasts, so that's why I went with the cf64v. The dlc burrs have been pretty great, but the next upgrade will be ssp hu burrs. I do use medium roasts from time to time or when I make a milk drink and that's when I'll use the jultra.

I own a MiCoffee/Turin CF64v (DF64 cousin), others, but no K-Ultra. In comparisons to the Opus One & the KinGrinder K6, if the chute is clean so the antistatic works, with a Columbian light-medium roast, at a setting of 60 (I zeroed out my CF64v to eliminate the float below 0), I distinctly tasted more clarity in the cup using a 15g, 3 pour, 3min total recipe (See Lance’s new fav universal pour over method). This clearly seems to be a case of “I like what I like, you like what you like”, because the comments do fanboy over the 1Zspresso grinders. I too plan to pick up a ZP6 at the WoC in June, so I may soon find religion as well.