CF64V

Well, yea—it’s a $400 grinder. There are going to be compromises. Not sure what you mean by trying for the right price. It costs what it costs. Unless you find one used or it goes on sale for Black Friday, it will cost $400. If you want variable RPM, the cheapest option is the [CF64V for $399 on Amazon.](https://www.amazon.com/CF64V-Grinder-Turin-Variable-Single/dp/B0FGB9656V/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UHV0YAHRJL1W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xAKJNpnKPjm7v0b6GWow17DLing-oaQz_tudKmLJwOE.Z5vehQJVsGLPAioAznCbgcK7Y9zGFoQZRE6u4g6ge8A&dib_tag=se&keywords=cf64v&qid=1762110797&sprefix=CF6%2Caps%2C283&sr=8-1) Stock burrs on the CF64V aren’t as good as the stock Ode Gen 2 burrs for pourover, since they’re meant to be used for both espresso and pourover. While the Ode Gen 2 is filter only.

If you're able to return this, do so and get the CF64V from MiiCoffee. You \*can\* do fine with this but for that money there are options that you'll have a much better experience with.

For $400 \[CF64V\] you get 64mm burrs, vertical stack and a larger (and brushless) motor. The 64mm burrs are also swappable with almost all major players in the burr game (SSP, Lab Sweet etc etc} - it'll just be more future proof for you as you grow in the hobby. The downside to the CF (or any DF/CF model) is that the quality control is all over the place. Just buy it from a reputable reseller (like miicoffee) and you'll be fine.

Definitely will. Review video will be a bit as it takes some time to get used to it and potentially season it. First impressions are that that work flow is great. I've not used RDT and have had next to no retention (<0.2g) and static is quite minimal as well. The initial (light/medium-light) cups I've made have had decently high clarity, comparable, if not slightly better than my stock 078s.

That's exactly why I took a chance. It feels solid. Everything is metal except for the "hopper" and the variable speed dial. Build quality does not feel low for this one at all

The more I use it, the more I enjoy it. It appears to use the very similar, if not the same multi-purpose burrs as the Df64. Incredibly fast grind, but a bit on the louder side. The work flow is quite nice and I've been able to get rather consistent espresso shots with it, and have even jumped between dark and light roasts with no noticeable impact on the shots. I have not tried it out for pour over yet. Any specific questions that you have, feel free to ask.

I have not used the (included) RDT yet and I have noticed just a little static, nothing ridiculous. The (what I assume to be) plasma generator does a decent job. I haven't used a Gen2 Df64, I'm comparing it to a timemore 078s, which is my other grinder. It's not much louder, but I can tell a noticeable difference in the volume. Retention has been a non-issue

What’s your budget? Encore ESP is kind of the best option in its price range. The alternatives with the Fellow Opus and the Breville grinders are all inferior when it comes to consistency and retention. Now you could also get the Starseeker E55 Pro which is a Chinese conical grinder at the DF54 price point. Better quality grinder than the DF54 probably, but conical. If you can go up in budget, the Turin/MiiCoffee CF64V should be ready to ship immediately and is a much much better grinder than the cheaper DF54 or the comparably price DF64. If you want to go cheaper, the Mokkom 64 is a nice 64mm alternative to the DF54 that’s actually cheaper.

It’s the only good option for an espresso grinder you have on the list. The Fellow Ode is a filter grinder and can’t grind fine enough stock, and still under powered for espresso even with SSP burrs. Fellow Opus is just…no OXO is not an espresso grinder Shardor 64 and Mokkom 64 are the two budget options but they’re currently about $10-20 higher than what you could get them at. The two other Chinese grinders are typically only bought even in China as part of a “free gift” as part of an espresso machine bundle. Ultra budget. The DF83V is a good grinder that some would even call end game. So obviously, there’s no comparison. But I’ll throw in one more option for you: CF64V. It’s essentially a $400 64mm little brother to the DF83V and you can even put SSP burrs in it if you want to spend extra, but the stock DLC burrs are certainly plenty solid.

Yeah it’s kind of the best value grinder on the market imo. Kind of also shows how grinder recommendations by people online are mostly based on individual biases since for roughly the same price, by the same manufacturer and distributors, the CF64V destroys the DF64 across the board by every metric, yet DF64 probably still gets mentioned more.

Yeah, light roasts are going to be harder to hand grind, but it is possible with a little muscle. It's easier to grind than on the jultra than a lot of other hand grinders. I don't knowyoure budget on grinder, but i have a cf64, and it's been outstanding. It's made by the same company that does the df64, but i believe it's a better setup than the df64.